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On his show Wednesday, MSNBC host Lawrence O'Donnell issued a scathing takedown of Virginia gubernatorial hopeful and current attorney general Ken Cuccinelli's ongoing efforts to keep Virginia's anti-sodomy laws on the books.
Despite the fact that such laws were universally struck down by the Supreme Court's 2003 decision in Lawrence v. Texas, and that a federal appellate court recently rejected the state's appeal to keep the laws on the books, Cuccinelli has dug in his heels on the issue. The Republican's campaign recently launched a new website elaborating on the attorney general's unyielding support for the law.
O'Donnell took the time to actually look at the language of Cuccinelli's favorite law, and discovered that the far-reaching policy would make a felony any kind of sex involving the anus or the mouth of any citizen male or female, straight, gay, or otherwise, married or single and the "carnal parts" of another citizen.
"In other words, it prohibits most gay and straight sex," explains O'Donnell. "And while it's at it, it prohibits sex with any brute animal. In fact, the only sex act that remains legal is heterosexual vaginal intercourse. And dont think you can enter marriage it does not include an exception for married couples. So the republican candidate for governor in Virginia is running on a platform that wants to continue to make it illegal in Virginia for married couples to have oral sex. Or for any couples of any gender to have any form of oral sex."
http://www.advocate.com/politics/2013/07/18/watch-msnbc-anchor-wants-know-if-has-ken-cuccinelli-ever-had-oral-sex
Video at link.
xchrom
(108,903 posts)William769
(55,147 posts)I don't want to go back to the 1600's & look for it either.
opiate69
(10,129 posts)opiate69
(10,129 posts)Pretzel_Warrior
(8,361 posts)Her husband's penis to arouse in him the "missionary" spirit.
AndyA
(16,993 posts)He's probably a selfish, sloppy, boring partner.
It's not good for him, or for his wife. So, he wants everyone to hate having sex as much as he does.
William769
(55,147 posts)This law would be selectively applied to certain people.
Quantess
(27,630 posts)I would still say 5:1 he's a lousy lay.
With an attitude like that, count on him to be a dud.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,797 posts)that would be most aptly directed to Mr. Cuccinelli: "You're in more dire need of a blow job than any white man in history!"
William769
(55,147 posts)& very apt here.
lastlib
(23,263 posts)(so to speak......)
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)msanthrope
(37,549 posts)William769
(55,147 posts)Thor_MN
(11,843 posts)I doubt he gets more than a handjob, with a gloved hand, on his birthday each year.
Yavin4
(35,445 posts)Seriously.
William769
(55,147 posts)I also take the position (pun intended), practice makes perfect.
felix_numinous
(5,198 posts)after that, THINKING about sex.
NO fun, NO laughing either!!!!!
Metro135
(359 posts)not be caught looking at yourself in the mirror in your underwear either.
davidpdx
(22,000 posts)BainsBane
(53,041 posts)Won't give oral sex.
William769
(55,147 posts)I wonder if he will still receive?
BainsBane
(53,041 posts)and you know he only means the law to apply to gay people.
Tell me, has anyone ever met a man that didn't want oral sex? I certainly haven't.
William769
(55,147 posts)bullwinkle428
(20,629 posts)"Alex...what are declarations that will never be uttered throughout the entire course of human history?"
JoeyT
(6,785 posts)Everyone has heard of them, a few people claim to have seen them, but no one can ever actually produce evidence of one.
wordpix
(18,652 posts)kestrel91316
(51,666 posts)say this.
mwooldri
(10,303 posts)I don't care for oral sex, personally it grosses me out. When you're learning about sex you find out things that you just don't like. Oral sex happens to be a part of sex that I don't like - giving or receiving.
But you're right - Ken Cuccinelli is wanting this to be an anti-gay law. As to an individuals' sex life? As long as it is consenting on all ends and it is safe - it doesn't matter one bit to me who does what to who. My stance on sex? Safe, legal* and as frequently as one wants to have it.
* - Legal, meaning that both parties have the ability, capability and desire to consent to sexual intercourse subject to some age restrictions. Not as in what sexual positions or partners are permitted.
BainsBane
(53,041 posts)making a joke about the English. I'll just say, It's very nice to meet you. And I agree with you completely that two consenting adults should be able to do what they like in private.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)he should be reminded of the adage "it's better to give than to receive"
Warpy
(111,316 posts)We all know he could never find it and if he happened to stumble across it, he'd be so grossed out he'd be celibate for the rest of his life.
bvar22
(39,909 posts)Since he has never seen one in real life,
and none of his sexual partners have ever come close to experiencing one,
he doesn't believe such a thing as Female Orgasms exists,
so the MUST be an invention of WITCHES!!!
All of Mr. Ken Cuccinelli's sexual partners have reported that sex with him is an "unpleasant" DUTY,
so these silly rumors of the Female Orgasm only make the Women Folk unhappy in their wifely duties, and unnecessarily raise their expectations.
rurallib
(62,433 posts)"except one position."
Can't wait to see how many idiots vote for him.
Could voting for Cucinelli be grounds for divorce? IE the proof i have he won't do oral sex is that he voted for the Cooch.
bunnies
(15,859 posts)Thanks for posting it.
Im actually glad that this idiot is bringing attention to a law that discriminates against all consenting adults. I hope it gives straight people a teeny-tiny taste of what the LGBT community has to deal with. Sure sucks having someone try to tell you who you can love and how you can love them. Maybe this will shed some light on how absurd such laws really are. Then again, those like the Cooch dont have to worry about the law ever being used against them, do they.
Nice touch with that "brute animal" part too. FFS.
William769
(55,147 posts)wordpix
(18,652 posts)Chan790
(20,176 posts)So...no on dogs, yes on dolphin-f**king?
marshall
(6,665 posts)Brute or otherwise.
At any rate, do people think it needs to be outlawed?
yellerpup
(12,253 posts)beastiality is not illegal in 23 states. Sorry, no link.
kestrel91316
(51,666 posts)sex is just a smokescreen.
yellerpup
(12,253 posts)Anthing this outrageous and this unnecessary is all about diversion. Get people talking about sex with animals and we will do X while they aren't looking. So, what is this law really about?
Hekate
(90,766 posts)... for a boy growing up to try out the family mule. I kid you not; this was said just a couple of years ago, not in like 1930 or 1890. I think he's from Florida.
I think where it's been outlawed it's been on the grounds of animal cruelty and/or immorality. I'm just rather amused that in 23 states the law is silent on the subject.
Initech
(100,096 posts)Did you see the Girl With The Dragon Tattoo? I wouldn't be surprised if they found a torture chamber in Cuccinelli's house similar to the one they used on Daniel Craig.
carolinayellowdog
(3,247 posts)FWIW
naaman fletcher
(7,362 posts)And basically someone should ask him this at every single campaign stop he has.
William769
(55,147 posts)Turbineguy
(37,361 posts)"Our policy is to have no policy!"
Of course a republican would have oral sex with his foot.
notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)and figures if he don't get any, no one else will get any either.
bobclark86
(1,415 posts)She's been unwilling.
sarisataka
(18,732 posts)will be to make spanking illegal so he won't have to go through that again.
ZRT2209
(1,357 posts)The Blue Flower
(5,444 posts)I'd love, love, love for him to have to talk about oral sex on every single campaign stop. What will the children say?
CK_John
(10,005 posts)classof56
(5,376 posts)Scary but good. Thanks for the chuckle.
Lars39
(26,110 posts)ohheckyeah
(9,314 posts)oral sex and Cuccinelli. Yuk.
Ken is a wacko.
William769
(55,147 posts)Rex
(65,616 posts)NO ONE can have oral sex!"
lordsummerisle
(4,651 posts)Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)theHandpuppet
(19,964 posts)He is a conservative Catholic who, no doubt, believes that sex is solely for procreation. His religious beliefs steer his political will in ways that should be considered diametrically opposed to his role as Attorney General. This latest campaign of his -- to resurrect anti-sodomy laws -- is only one among a string of Inquisition-era stances for which he's known. He opposes anything resembling equal rights for GLBT citizens (Virginia's anti-gay laws are among the most extreme in the country), is rabidly anti-choice (has made it virtually impossible to access abortion services), opposes reform of immigration policies, etc. But of course, Mr. pro-life is one of the best friends the NRA ever had.
[url]http://www.catholicherald.com/stories/Ken-Cuccinelli-shaped-by-his-faith,14155 [/url]
[url]http://www.nraila.org/search.aspx?s=%22Ken%20Cuccinelli%22 [/url]
[url]http://michael-in-norfolk.blogspot.com/2012/12/ken-cuccinelli-opposes-all-meaningful.html [/url]
Really, can't the people of Virginia do better than this?
Myrina
(12,296 posts):bangshead:
William769
(55,147 posts)wordpix
(18,652 posts)carla
(553 posts)the name of the state to ..".Vaginia". Sorry. What a dim bulb poor Ken C. is. If Virginians elect him, they will deserve all he does to them.
Segami
(14,923 posts)Buenaventura
(364 posts)I'm still laughing!
SunSeeker
(51,621 posts)7962
(11,841 posts)nykym
(3,063 posts)Democrats are the party of regulation...
madamesilverspurs
(15,806 posts)Lucinda
(31,170 posts)Metro135
(359 posts)ever been kissed?
And if so . . . . WHERE!!??
B Stieg
(2,410 posts)(how come there's no smilie for a rim shot?)
47of74
(18,470 posts)keroro gunsou
(2,223 posts):rimshot:
edit: ok guess not...
but this works -
eggplant
(3,912 posts)intaglio
(8,170 posts)has pointed out that, as worded, it also outlaws kissing
http://tv.msnbc.com/2013/07/18/ken-cuccinellis-new-website-defends-anti-sodomy-law/
Larry Arnold said;
§ 18.2-361. Crimes against nature; penalty.
A. If any person carnally knows in any manner any brute animal, or carnally knows any male or female person by the anus or by or with the mouth, or voluntarily submits to such carnal knowledge, he or she shall be guilty of a Class 6 felony ...
Class 6 is minimum 1-yr in prison! Decided to look up carnal, just to be sure ...
1.pertaining to or characterized by the flesh or the body, its passions and appetites; sensual: carnal pleasures.
Yup, this kid is right. VA law outlaws kissing! Touching of the flesh w/ lips.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)I don't want to upset anyone, but it is mentioned in the Wikipedia article on what is an erogenous zone.
Mouth
The lips and tongue are sensitive and used during kissing.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erogenous_zone
This candidate has a problem, and it goes beyond the fact that he is Republican.
LiberalLovinLug
(14,175 posts)There are so many domesticated well mannered ones left!
bulloney
(4,113 posts)lolly
(3,248 posts)Kenny needs a good spanking.
Skittles
(153,174 posts)yes INDEED
lolly
(3,248 posts)C'mon, you know he'd like it--
Kenny has been a very, very bad boy.
hootinholler
(26,449 posts)Unless you masturbate a brute animal.
The Wizard
(12,546 posts)is a closeted sword swallower.
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)Word: Cuccinelli
Noun: 1. Fear of oral sex. 2. Fear that somewhere someone is deriving pleasure from 'unnatural' sex acts. 3. Any law prohibiting a person from carnally knowing in any manner any male or female person by the anus or by or with the mouth.
Verb: 1. To fear deriving pleasure from 'unnatural' sex acts. 2. To advocate for legal restrictions regarding consensual sexual activity.
Background: Virginia Gubernatorial candidate Ken Cuccinelli II (R) has started a campaign to restore the legal ban on oral sex.
Usages
Noun: The Cuccinelli statute reads, If any person carnally knows in any manner any male or female person by the anus or by or with the mouth, or voluntarily submits to such carnal knowledge, he or she shall be guilty of a felony.
Verb: The moral police officer testified, "I saw both defendants cuccinelling like a pair of wild bonobos."
Noun and verb: If the cuccinelli statute passes, only criminals will cuccinelli.
by Bonobo Bushman on Jul 18, 2013
tags: carnal knowledge, oral sex, cunnilingus, consensual sex, sexual pleasure, sex
cloudbase
(5,524 posts)Does that count?
lordsummerisle
(4,651 posts)So how in the world would this kind of thing be enforced? (That is, until the drones the size of dragonflies are deployed...)
Chan790
(20,176 posts)mysuzuki2
(3,521 posts)and blow this guy?
Mojo Electro
(362 posts)And she just referred to Ken Cuccinelli as "Ol' Cooch"...
Rain Mcloud
(812 posts)Who has nightmares to this day and visits a therapist some 40 years later.
"Let Me hear you squeal!"
Loudah!
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