Whitney "took to drugs and drinks because she was hiding her true sexuality"

[apples and oranges]

If true, this is heartbreaking. Hopefully one day we'll live in a society where people are free to be themselves:

Some of Whitney Houston’s friends, including gay rights activist Peter Tatchell have said that the singer took to drugs and drinks because she was hiding her true sexuality.

Tatchell even insisted her marriage to Bobby Brown was a smokescreen, and that she was “only really happy” in the 1980s when she was with a “lesbian partner”. Even her former husband has hinted their marriage was a cover-up for her desire for women.

“Whitney was happiest and at her peak in the 1980s when she was with her female partner,” Tatchell said.

“They were so loved up and joyful together. Perhaps her inability to accept and express her same-sex love contributed to her substance abuse and decline,” he added.

http://www.hindustantimes.com/Entertainment/Tabloid/Whitney-Houston-was-secret-lesbian-Friend/Article1-811817.aspx

[slackmaster]

1. Sounds like a lame attempt at a rationalization to me

RIP Whitney.

[valerief]

2. I thought everyone knew she was gay anyway. nt

[Proud Liberal Dem]

3. This is my first time hearing about it

Anything is possible, of course.

[Blue_Tires]

45. I'd first known of the rumors back in the 80s

But it was never anything more than "friend of a cousin who knows someone's in-law in East Orange who knows the dirt"

[Proud Liberal Dem]

62. I never heard any such rumors

I just loved her music and knowing that she was gay wouldn't have changed it. It was disappointing to see her let herself go (i.e. drugs) after her heyday in the 1980's and I largely stopped following her post-Bodyguard. I pulled out her first three albums last week and my wife downloaded one of her old music videos and I and went through them all. It was a nice trip down memory lane. I didn't realize that all of her albums had a lot of good material on it- even the songs that never got any radio airplay were good and her "One Moment in Time" was simply breathtaking. Also, i noticed that one of my favorite pop/jazz artists, Kenny G, showed up on a couple of her songs.

[DURHAM D]

4. Exactly -

and it is so very sad.

When I saw Donnie McClurkin performing at her funeral it made me sick to my stomach and it says a lot about her family and the pressure on Whitney.

On edit: I also remember at one of her first awards show she was with her partner Robyn and when she won (think it was the Grammys) she thanked Robyn profusely. I figured cousin Dionne Warwick was backstage pitchin' a fit. Don't get me started on her...

[SunsetDreams]

5. Tabloids sure are a big business

...sad

[slackmaster]

6. An editorial cartoon in the Ottawa Citizen comes to mind

[starroute]

64. That cartoon is pretty disgusting

It may be right on as far as Whitney goes -- but to fantasize about Iran nuking Israel, when Israel is estimated to have a couple of hundred nukes on hand and Iran is estimated to have approximately zero, plays into the worst Neocon fear-mongering.

[Fozzledick]

67. Tell that to Ayatollah Ali Khameini

He dreams about it all the time!

[starroute]

73. And you know that, how?

[stopbush]

7. Wasn't she a devout Christian?

There's a conflict, for sure. Being gay and trying to reconcile that with an anti-gay religion.

[DURHAM D]

9. Your brush is too broad for "Christian".

Some christian faiths have no problem with unmixed relationships.

[stopbush]

19. It's a fool's errand to keep up with the cherry picking that goes on from one Xian sect to another.

My statement was a generalized statement that is true for a lot of Xian faiths, especially the more-fundamentalist ones. I wasn't going to waste my time trying to figure out which strictures applied to which sect.

[Union Scribe]

40. Yes, being accurate is such a pain in the ass.

Far more time-efficient to just swing the broad brush.

[Wait Wut]

57. Perfect.

There's too much of that here. IMO, it's hypocritical.

[Jamastiene]

66. In her family, the anti-gay form (of Christianity) seemed to be in effect.

They had Donnie McClurkin at her funeral. That says a lot right by itself. So, in this case, I do believe her family's version of Christianity might have been the anti-gay version of it.

I agree, generally, though. I wouldn't broadbrush all Christians. It is just that in this case, I have to wonder if there could be some truth to it.

[undeterred]

18. Having watched the funeral yesterday...

I would say its probably very hard to be openly gay in a black Baptist Church. In the Entertainment industry thats another thing- the people are much more accepting but its still difficult for artists to come out publicly. Some fans aren't going to accept you.

Whitney Houston belonged to a lot of different communities but she never stopped identifying herself as a Christian- and she may have believed that being gay was wrong because of the way she was raised in church. So I can see how that would have been very difficult for her.

[FreeState]

30. She was scheduled to do an anti-bullying ad aimed at racial minorietys, gay youth the day she died

http://www.advocate.com/News/Daily_News/2012/02/17/Whitney_Was_to_Shoot_Antibullying_Campaign_on_Last_Day/

Whitney Houston was to lend her image to a campaign urging an end to bullying based on "your color, your sexual orientation, or how much you weigh," but her death in a Beverly Hills hotel room prevented the photo shoot from happening.
 Us Weekly  reports that a photographer for the Stop Bullying Now campaign was waiting for Houston February 11 and that her daughter, Bobbi Kristina Brown, offered to stand in for her mother to set up the lighting. After becoming concerned over her mother's failure to show up at the shoot, Brown checked on Houston and was informed of the tragic news by the star's staffers.
The campaign is officially titled "Hear No Evil, See No Evil, Speak No Evil" and is described in a press release as "an initiative that will reach parents and children, while providing tools needed to successfully cope with bullying." Entertainment consultant Raffles van Exel, a friend of Houston's, is producing the campaign through his company Raffles Entertainment. The antibullying message is carried out through a mascot, Miles the Monkey. Celebrities like Jennifer Love Hewitt posed with a stuffed Miles the Monkey at a Grammy gifting suite this weekend.
Contacted by The Advocate, van Exel was too upset to speak about Houston, with her wake occurring Friday evening.

[lpbk2713]

8. Cue the former lovers ...

who will come out of the wood work so they can "tell all" to the tabloids and talk shows ... for a price.

[DURHAM D]

10. There are many but I don't really expect to hear from them.

The community loves her and thus to some degree protects her.

[HopeHoops]

11. And what the hell does her sexual preference have to do with anything?

People drink. People do drugs. People get depression. That's a fact of life and is completely unrelated to the issue of sexual preference. There IS a connection to suicides, but usually because of bullying. I really don't give a damn if she was gay. Think of all of the performers we've lost to drugs and alcohol. Why are they even bringing this up?

[Rex]

15. Because new reporters are lazy and

want to dig up crap on people that can no longer defend themselves imo. She had an amazing voice...sadly we will not be allowed to remember her for it...no, we will now have to remember her for whatever reason the M$M wants us to. Well some will. I won't.

[HopeHoops]

17. Curiously, I always thought she was the next Arethra Franklin, AND...

I just recently read that Whitney was Franklin's goddaughter. I didn't know that before. Perhaps there was some influence?

[valerief]

21. I think of Whitney as the 21st century Judy Garland. nt

[HopeHoops]

23. Nah. Witney had a better voice. (No offense to Garland intended)

[valerief]

28. I think the reverse. nt

[Zoeisright]

37. I do too.

[Rex]

22. I read that too a few years ago.

Oh yeah you know there was a huge amount of influence! Whitney rubbed elbows with titans of the music industry, hell she became one...but the M$M needed to constantly drag her down (why?) and I blame a lot of her fall on them. I never could understand the hostility toward Houston...a battered woman/ domestic abuse survivor...I just don't get it. Why did they hate her so?

[HopeHoops]

24. Think "supermarket tabloids".

Bullshit sells bullshit rags.

[Rex]

25. Yes. It is so sad.

And one reason I get all my news on the WWW now.

[FreeState]

31. Preference? It's orientation N/T

[HopeHoops]

41. Hard call when someone's bi, but yes, orientation is a better word.

[ruggerson]

44. If she was gay or bisexual, that was her orientation n/t

[dkf]

12. It's probably the other way around...she loved booze and drugs more than she loved anyone else.

Sad.

[Rex]

13. Why must there always be a hidden agenda?

Maybe she just did too many pills or snorted one too many lines of cocaine. Sometimes people die, because their abuse of drugs finally reaches a point to the next dose being lethal. I am sorry she is gone...at one time she had an incredible singing voice. Sad to lose people to drugs.

[msongs]

14. a person will put up with the level of abuse he/she thinks he/she deserves nt

[dsc]

16. I can very much relate to this and speak of it

I am close to 12 years sober and an openly gay male. And yes, an inability to come to terms with my sexuality was very much one of the reasons I drank like I did. The fact is many, many gays fall down that road. I will say I haven't a clue as to the role it played with Whitney but for me, and many others, it played a huge part in our journeys down that road.

[valerief]

20. But a lot of Christians don't like to hear that. Intolerant Christians. nt

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

26. Most alcoholics and addicts use drugs/alcohol to cope.

Life can be tricky, unpleasant, painful, frightening. Resorting to drugs/alcohol is just a way of coping with it all. A dead end way...but, at first, an easy way.

[tilsammans]

27. It's all true . . .

Back in the mid-80s, I worked with a longtime Houston family friend. Rumors about Whitney being a lesbian were swirling around, and several of us asked our coworker whether they were true. She confirmed them in a very matter-of-fact way, indicating it had been common knowledge for years among those close to Whitney.

For us now, we can speculate at length about what drove Whitney's demise, but the true tragedy is that she never felt comfortable in openly being who she really was. That's something no one should have to bear.

R.I.P., Whitney.
We never really knew you and the trouble you faced. But we can work to make a better, more accepting world for all.

[onpatrol98]

29. Wow!

I think these people just want a moment in the spotlight. Whitney Houston said she wasn't gay. You'd think that would be enough. Now, with her family grieving and her body barely in the grave, the rumors start.

Me personally, if her "friends" are saying these things after her death, even though she said she wasn't, then that was part of her problem. With all the money she could ever need, real friends can be hard to find.

As for Peter Tatchell...I don't know quite what to say. Except, I heard he's straight. He's not a gay man. But, he get's more attention if he pretends to be one. Who told me? His friends, of course. He was happiest when he was with some woman from his past.

I just made it all up. But, at least he's still alive and could respond for himself if he gave a rat's butt about anything I would say about him.

What a tacky, tacky, man. She was clearly a troubled young woman. Whatever her demons, she's dead now. I'm not surprised when companies take the prices of her CDs up to make a few extra dollars. I guess I shouldn't be surprised when other vultures come out to use her fame and downfall for their own profit. Which I assume is really behind Tatchell. He's found a new way to make a buck. A famous face and voice that will attract him a bit of attention as he tries to sell the next book.

Gay or straight, she was an awesome singer and loved by many, including many of those in her black church.

RIP, Whitney Houston. Best of wishes to her family and friends.

[FreeState]

33. If its true it's not tacky, it's tragic and all too common

LGBT persons have been hidden from history and forced into the closset for 100s of years. If its true it could serve as a wake up call to anti-gay Christians and gay youth. (I say anti-gay Christians because that's the religious environment she was raised in).

[onpatrol98]

34. It's tacky regardless

It's tacky regardless. I know absolutely nothing about Whitney Houston's religious environment. I also don't know how she liked her coffee or the name of her 3rd grade teacher. For all I know, her particular church environment might not have been as rigid as you suggest. Perhaps you're a member of her church and know of her interactions with the people in her church. After all, Peter is certainly convinced he knows her even better than she knew herself, since she said she isn't gay.

If it's true, that she's gay. It'll simply be true that she's gay and that she didn't think it was our business. Perhaps she assumed (apparently mistakenly) that she could do what she wanted to do in her own bedroom.

We don't need to call a dead singer gay to give the world a wake up call. You want to issue a wake up call. Talk to live people who want to talk. The only wake up call this would provide is to issue a chilling effect to a celebrity who actually might be gay and wondering how to come out. To my mind, attempting to drag a dead singer out of closet (a closet possibly in the mind of Tachell for publicity sake) borders on ridiculous. We're the choice people, supposedly. People have the right to come out of the closet. Stay in the closet. Or, decide at which time they would like to exit...IF they want to exit. I can't see how this benefits that struggle.

And, no doubt, if she had her preference. She'd much rather her family have the support of her church than Peter Tachell. Now, I'd be willing to bet on that one.

[FreeState]

35. Keep justifying that homophobia - it destroys lives n/t

[onpatrol98]

36. Justifying homophobia???

Singer says she's not gay before she died.
Peter Tachell says she is gay, after she died.
I say, we should take the singer at her word.

[Was this the homophobic justification?]

Singer says she's not gay before she died.
Peter Tachell says she is gay, after she died.
Some say, by saying she's gay, this will be a wake up call to churches. Even though, she said she wasn't gay.
I say this is crazy. Calling a singer gay (who said she was not gay) gay after she dies will NOT be wake up call for churches.

[Was this the homophobic justification?]

If Whitney Houston had actually said she was gay, then the wake up call argument would have merit. But, she said she isn't. So, it's just a rumor.

Ray Boltz would be a better argument. And, I certainly don't want anything to happen to Ray Boltz. But, as a live, gay, Christian performer. He offers the best wake up call for churches. He also holds the creditability to do so. He is a gay man who was troubled and felt isolated because he knew he was gay and wanted to come out and eventually did. But, he can speak of how difficult his decision to come out was AND how his background with the church made it even more difficult.

His voice is a valuable one in this discussion.

Peter Tachell's voice...as I guess Whitney's medium...lacks creditability to me.

Now, on the last issue. You can have it. I may be wrong. Somewhere out there, there really could be a closeted gay performer reading these rumors about Whitney and thinking. Wow! What was I so concerned about? Me personally, I think the closet deepens. And, the secret is held more closely. But, hey! I'm willing to give you that one. I wouldn't want to justify homophobia?

But, if Peter Tachell is showing us the ultimate game plan for defeating homophobia, we're doomed.

[nofurylike]

38. do you call all people who choose not to come out homophobes?

there are plenty even here who have expressed reasons they do not come out. are they all homophobes?

to say that it is everyone's right to make that choice for herself is not homophobic.

outing is a crime against privacy and economic and personal security. outing someone who is not even alive to either verify, deny, or sue for the claim, and doing so for PROFIT and titillation and some seconds of fame is indecent exploitation.

[ruggerson]

46. Since Donnie McClurkin was invited to be the first singer and TD Jakes was invited to eulogize her

at her memorial, I think that's fairly concrete evidence that we know something about her "religious environment."

[onpatrol98]

47. Donnie McClurkin

Again, you have more knowledge than I do. I'm willing to let you have it. For all I know...since I'm not acquainted with Whitney, is that Donnie could have been a friend of the family. He could have been her friend. It's not unusual for many black artists of different genres to still have close relationships. It's a small world.

http://www.bellenews.com/2012/02/18/entertainment/cissy-houston-kevin-costner-alicia-keys-and-other-stars-paid-emotional-tribute-to-whitney-houston/

From what I can read...since I don't know these people...her mother requested he sing a song for her daughter's funeral. I doubt she was thinking politically. I doubt she cared about his politics. I doubt (but I can't know) that Whitney Houston cared about his politics, either. And, since it was her family, planning her funeral, I'm fine with that.

I imagine it was just a sad mother thinking of planning for a sad occasion and thought the song would be helpful...probably for her.

http://www.metrolyrics.com/stand-lyrics-donnie-mcclurkin.html

I doubt you'll be interested in the lyrics. I posted it for someone else who might.Since, I know the song and truthfully, it touches me. I'm not surprised. I have never had to bury a child. I simply could not imagine the emotions that would grip me. But, I could see how the song, from a voice clearly deemed acceptable to their family, could be comforting.

As for concrete evidence. I don't see it. But, that's okay. The only thing this gives me concrete evidence of was that her mother was surrounded by people she loved during a very difficult moment.

I don't know many black people, gays or straight, that have issues with T.D. Jakes or Donnie McClurkin providing comfort to Cissy Houston as she buried her child.

[ruggerson]

51. Would you feel comfortable with David Duke speaking at a memorial?

Because he sends the same message that Donnie McClurkin and TD Jakes do. I'm not commenting on their "politics" as you euphemistically characterize it, I'm pointing out that they are both very well known homophobes. They propogate hate and division and bigotry. Their very presence is a statement in and of itself.

Thiis was a private funeral and Cissy Houston had the rigiht to invite whomever she wanted to. But since Whitney was a public figure and the memorial was televised nationally, people also have the right to weigh in on it.

And, yes, I believe McClurkin was a friend from earlier days in her life.

[onpatrol98]

53. David Duke ???

Really? I don't monitor funerals for their attendance lists. The only ones I have been involved in planning involved contacting people who were personally connected to the deceased loved one.

I don't give a care whose funeral, David Dukes attends. Who am I? I would have to have an ego the size of Texas to believe my opinion matters to people burying a loved one that isn't connected to me.

People get to invite whoever they want. So, I feel absolutely comfortable with David Dukes speaking at anyone's memorial who invites him. It's not my funeral. They aren't going to ask me for advice. If as an potential attendee, I don't want to go. I won't go.

I don't see Donnie McClurkin & TD Jakes as an equivalent to David Duke, the former Grand Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan.

You have every right to weigh in. I have also weighed in. But, to me, we're just offering our opinions. I don't see a personal opinion from people as far removed as you and I as having much value to the people closest to Whitney Houston at this moment.

[ruggerson]

54. Evidently the problem is

that you DON'T see the equivalence between David Duke and TD Jakes/Donnie McClurkin.

And you're right: we are weighing in on a message board designed to facilitate just that. I don't think anyone has said anything about any of this having value to those closest to Whitney Houston.

But it might have value to a young gay person surfing the internet.

You never know.

[onpatrol98]

56. True, we'll never know.

I do not consider TD Jakes, a preacher...and Donnie McClurkin, a singer as the equivalent of David Dukes, the grand wizard for the Ku Klux Klan. I do see how this could present a problem with us communicating, if you do.

I'm sure this is an indication of insensitivity on my part. So, allow me to go ahead and apologize now. I'll take your word for the fact that gays and lesbians see them as an equivalent. I would be curious as to whether or not this would be true for African Americans who are gay, as well. That may very well be the case. I will ask. I do want to know.

Homophobia is a very real problem. It's a problem in the black community. I think the issue is important enough to warrant a lot more conversation and seriousness than it currently receives.

[ruggerson]

59. Hate is hate, bigotry is bigotry

Preachers and entertainers often have as much of a public platform as do members of the Klan.

Jakes has said he would not hire gay people, has called them "broken", has spoken out repeatedly and fervently against their rigiht to equality.

McClurkin champions the "ex gay" movement which tortures gay children. He has made this a central purpose in his life. He calls gays "Vampires" and being gay a "curse."

You're right. Homophobia is a very big problem, in both communities of color and the white community. The way we, as people, try to ameliorate this is to have more open discussions about it, not less.

I don't speak for the lgbt community, only for myself. Not sure why you would think otherwise.

[onpatrol98]

63. Not sure why you would think otherwise.

I guess because you sounded like such an authority on the matter. But, of course, no one person can speak for everyone.I will definitely read more on the subject. And, I will follow your links.

[ruggerson]

61. Here are a couple of links you might find interesting

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/irene-monroe/ex-gay-donnie-mcclurkin-a_b_647188.html

http://aliciabanks.xanga.com/733347102/the-sins-of-donnie-mcclurkin---he-fell-down-but-we-are-up/

[Jamastiene]

68. Here we go: Right back to the "it's just one song" claim.

That's what everything you just said boils down to. It seems you cannot or will not see that McClurkin is a danger to gay people for promoting the idea that sexual orientation can be changed. When the APA, the AMA, and most other major medical professional organizations have said that "reparative therapy" is dangerous to a gay person's mental health, I tend to believe them over McClurkin.

[Mimosa]

69. Amen, OnPatrol. Addiction was Whitney's demon.

Most gay people agree with you.

Whitney probably wasn't gay. If she was gay or bisexual it doesn't matter.

Additition has killed everybody from Billie Holliday through Amy Winehouse.

[onpatrol98]

72. Billie Holliday

What a blast from the past!!! So, sad...so very sad.

[sabrina 1]

39. What's tacky is that someone who has no right to do so, is speaking for her. She

laughed at the fact that people were claiming she was gay, and not because THAT was tacky, but because incredibly, she as the strong woman she was, knew who she was. The implication here from this creep is that being Gay is tacky, otherwise why would he even talk about it?

From all I know of her, IF she was gay, she would have lived her life as she pleased. She stated over and over again that she was madly in love with her husband. And he stayed with her for seventeen years which I doubt he would have done had she been Gay. He is remarried and was I believe, either married or living with someone with whom he had children, before he married Whitney.

What I find really tacky is people who have zero way of knowing something, speaking for other people with such authority. Especially when, #1 that person has died and cannot speak for themselves, and #2, that person has already spoken for themselves. What a way to disrespect her, especially now.

From what I know of her, she was more than willing to go against her 'community' as she did when she married and stayed with her husband. Nor am I aware of her ever saying or doing anything to indicate that she shared the anti-Gay bigotry so prevalent in this society.

She basically gave up her career to try to make her marriage work, stating many times, when asked why she did it, that her marriage was far more important to her than her career.

Edited to add, I think people ought to respect her words, not the words of someone obviously trying to get attention for himself. I doubt most of her fans would have cared anyhow, and I do not understand why her private life is anyone's business.

[ruggerson]

42. You sound like you think it's an insult to discuss whether a public figure was gay

as if, somehow, you find that to be disparaging.

[onpatrol98]

50. No...I sound like it was tacky.

No...I sound like it was tacky for Peter Tachell to attempt to make a buck on the back of a dead woman as her family prepared to bury her. I think most people will think it's tacky.

I would think it was tacky if something happened to Peter and later someone else decided we should search through his personal history, hoping for something to make to do a few interviews on. I wouldn't think very much of anyone who decided that his death was an opportunity to look intellectually relevant.

I mean...why would anyone interview Peter Tachell about Whitney Houston? Why would anyone write about Peter Tachell and Whitney Houston? There was no real relationship between the people. He's standing on an corner far away, looking into a situation, wondering how he could personally benefit. So, we have these rumors. He's a gay activist. Bingo. Now, he can insert himself into the conversation.

I think his behavior, in this particular instance, is tacky.

[ruggerson]

52. So putting aside Peter Tachell

who apparently hits a nerve with you, do you think it's appropriate to discuss whether homophobia negatively impacted Houston's life?

[onpatrol98]

55. Appropriate

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To me, I see Peter Tachell's involvement as an indication of his personal arrogance. Yes, that did hit a nerve with me.

If Whitney Houston had actually said she was gay, I would think it highly appropriate. In fact, this is why I suggested that Ray Boltz coming out is a much better opportunity and example. He can speak to his experiences. To me this just seems more rational. It's okay with me if I'm alone on that point.

If Whitney Houston said she wasn't gay, and she truly wasn't gay, then I don't see the negative impact of homophobia on her life.

If people accuse me of being a drug addict, but I say I'm not a drug addict, and I'm really not a drug addict, then discussing whether drug addiction had a negative impact on my life does not seem rational.

By the way, I have never been a drug addict. If someone else decides to discuss my silent drug addiction (because they make a living talking and writing about drug addiction), even though I have denied problems with drug addiction. Please tell them (for me), they're being tacky.

It would seem more rational to find someone who is a drug addict.

[JI7]

32. if this is true it's very sad

i'm feeling more sad over her death in the last couple days or so than when news first broke about her death about a week ago.

[ruggerson]

43. Her memorial service was quite beautiful

but marred by hard core homophobes, including TD Jakes and Donnie McClurkin

[William769]

48. For you Whitney

[DURHAM D]

49. Beautiful

love her...

[blue ivy schlotsky]

58. That makes total sense to me.

And given Whitney's church background and cultural attitude towards being gay, it's no wonder she felt unable to put it out there. But you have to have the balls (pardon the pun) to do it regardless of whatever castigation is given you by the family. I love that saying of John Bradshaw that the family is a cult. I heartily agree!

[cbdo2007]

60. Of course.....after she's dead and can't deny this.

And Bobby Brown and his ego seems like the perfect, understanding partner to help her hide this for so many years

*sarcism*

[Tarheel_Dem]

65. I agree with everyone in this thread who has called this "tacky". Mr. Tachell should get a life &

stop trying to profit off the dead. I would not want Bobbi Christina to surf by here. This is most unseemly. Why didn't he make these claims prior to her death? I hope the family sues his ass off for defamation.

[Mimosa]

70. Legally dead people are 'fair game'

Once a person dies anybody can claim whatever he or she desires. It's sad.

[Tarheel_Dem]

74. It really is sad, because they can't defend their name against rumors and baseless charges.

I think the sentiment of this thread is that Whitney's sexual orientation is irrelevant. The problem seems to be that posthumous claims like this can only hurt the people who loved her most. There is nothing honorable about this at all, and if it teaches us anything, it's that assholes will be assholes, and they don't mind whose corpse they denigrate to make a buck.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

71. i hope she wasn't because i think living and dying without being able to be really out

is very very sad.