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99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
Tue Jul 16, 2013, 07:41 PM Jul 2013

FOX anchor inadvertently Implies Michael Hastings could have been "assassinated"

But probably NOT by Al Queda. Evil bastards.

K&R is you agree this needs to be investigated by Congress.

Fox News warns Al-Qaeda could ‘hack your car & crash it’
By David Edwards
Tuesday, July 16, 2013 14:57 EDT

Fox News on Tuesday advised viewers to revert to vehicles from the 1960s or even a “horse and buggy” because Al-Qaeda terrorists could take over the computer in their car and make it crash.

In a segment titled “Al Qaeda Behind the Wheel: How Terrorists Could Crash Your Car,” cyberterrorism analyst Morgan Wright said that it was a “fact” that “you can take control of a car” through systems like General Motor’s OnStar.

“My concern is when they not only just hack the car, they hack the systems that control these cars or have access to them,” Wright noted. “A lot of people say that’s far fetched, but one of my examples, you know, on Sept. 10th, 2001, we thought it was far fetched to fly four airplanes into a building, never thought it could happen. So, never say never.”

Complete report & Video of broadcast here:
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/07/16/fox-news-warns-al-qaeda-could-hack-your-car-crash-it/

Reportedly Richard Clark thinks this may be what happened as well, as descriibed in this HuffPo article on June 24th.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/24/michael-hastings-car-hacked_n_3492339.html

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FOX anchor inadvertently Implies Michael Hastings could have been "assassinated" (Original Post) 99th_Monkey Jul 2013 OP
k&r for exposure. n/t Laelth Jul 2013 #1
"Forgive our reporter for accidentally speaking the truth." - Fox, Inc. (R) Berlum Jul 2013 #2
Your title of this post is not factual. zappaman Jul 2013 #3
What is it about "inadvertently suggests" that you don't understand 99th_Monkey Jul 2013 #4
Will do. zappaman Jul 2013 #5
We understand whose side you stand on. nm rhett o rick Jul 2013 #7
There are sides? zappaman Jul 2013 #10
Of course there are "sides". One side doesnt blindly trust Republicans like Clapper, Mueller and rhett o rick Jul 2013 #15
My bad. zappaman Jul 2013 #16
I would only hope you would cast aside your hatred for whistle-blowers, investigative journalists, rhett o rick Jul 2013 #19
Not sure who you are replying to... zappaman Jul 2013 #21
Hey rhett, why don't you answer zappaman? Android3.14 Jul 2013 #28
First of all I was busy with my life. You might look into having one. Second, what question? rhett o rick Jul 2013 #31
+100 99th_Monkey Jul 2013 #30
Jesus christ will you just stop with the name calling? Discuss an issue DevonRex Jul 2013 #32
the fact that they can't answer a simple question and instead zappaman Jul 2013 #34
The fact that the most vile name calling against us doesn't get hidden here DevonRex Jul 2013 #35
WOW. zappaman Jul 2013 #39
Of course there are sides!!! It's shiny side OUT to deflect rays!!1 nt msanthrope Jul 2013 #24
But the Fox news anchor didn't even mention Hastings name, pnwmom Jul 2013 #6
Are you a fan of Sen Warren? rhett o rick Jul 2013 #9
You're splitting hairs here 99th_Monkey Jul 2013 #11
Ooohhhhh...now I get it. zappaman Jul 2013 #12
It's a real stretch burnodo Jul 2013 #8
. Tarheel_Dem Jul 2013 #13
Indeed zappaman Jul 2013 #14
Fox Noise, the 24-hour fact-free fear and hate network Scuba Jul 2013 #17
50 years from now... Archae Jul 2013 #18
Yes, of course. Nothing to see here. 99th_Monkey Jul 2013 #20
"Cars accelerate out of control" zappaman Jul 2013 #22
Richard Clark 99th_Monkey Jul 2013 #27
Good Luck to ANYONE trying to "hack" any of my old Low Tech vehicles, bvar22 Jul 2013 #23
+1 the only "computer" in my old piece of crap is SomethingFishy Jul 2013 #36
Could have been a lightening strike or a meteorite too, Progressive dog Jul 2013 #25
That's definitely a possibility 99th_Monkey Jul 2013 #26
Bwah! Hydra Jul 2013 #29
knr forestpath Jul 2013 #33
Sometimes an orange is just an orange and a reckless driver is just a reckless driver. AllINeedIsCoffee Jul 2013 #37
Hastings' "complete disregard for the laws of the road" <--your words 99th_Monkey Jul 2013 #38
This message was self-deleted by its author AllINeedIsCoffee Jul 2013 #40

Berlum

(7,044 posts)
2. "Forgive our reporter for accidentally speaking the truth." - Fox, Inc. (R)
Tue Jul 16, 2013, 07:47 PM
Jul 2013

"You can be damn sure that won't happen again." - Fox, Inc. (R)

zappaman

(20,606 posts)
3. Your title of this post is not factual.
Tue Jul 16, 2013, 07:48 PM
Jul 2013

Where did the reporter suggest Michael Hastings was assassinated?

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
4. What is it about "inadvertently suggests" that you don't understand
Tue Jul 16, 2013, 07:55 PM
Jul 2013

I never claimed that "FOX SAID Hastings WAS assassinated".

Although, you may wish to peruse the HuffPo report, as that IS more
directy on point, to the Hastings murder ... ah ... I mean "accident".

zappaman

(20,606 posts)
10. There are sides?
Tue Jul 16, 2013, 08:04 PM
Jul 2013

Not sure which I'm on, but pretty sure it's not this one...




And yes, you subject line is not factual...at all, since no one even remotely suggests such a thing.
Carry on!

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
15. Of course there are "sides". One side doesnt blindly trust Republicans like Clapper, Mueller and
Tue Jul 16, 2013, 08:16 PM
Jul 2013

Comey, and wants more transparency and is willing to fight for our freedoms and liberties.

THe other side wants to shut down any discussion of possible Constitutional violations of Booz-Allen-NSA-Clapper and shut down any discussion of possible political assassinations of pesky investigative journalists, thinking that ignorance is bliss. They favor the strong, tough authoritarian state, the biggest bully on the block to take good care of them.

zappaman

(20,606 posts)
16. My bad.
Tue Jul 16, 2013, 08:19 PM
Jul 2013

I thought this was about a news anchor "inadvertently suggesting Michael Hastings was assassinated."
I see now that no such thing was suggested inadvertently or otherwise.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
19. I would only hope you would cast aside your hatred for whistle-blowers, investigative journalists,
Tue Jul 16, 2013, 08:23 PM
Jul 2013

and protestors. Booz-Allen-Hamilton is spying on all Americans and they can use the information to sway elections. Wake up and smell the tyranny.

zappaman

(20,606 posts)
21. Not sure who you are replying to...
Tue Jul 16, 2013, 08:29 PM
Jul 2013

since I have never said I hate whistleblowers, investigative journalists, or protesters.
Not here and not in real life, since I don't hate them...at all.
But I will admit I don't like when someone just makes up an OP title to reflect their own thoughts and then try and defend it by making assertions about me or just trying desperately to change the subject.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
31. First of all I was busy with my life. You might look into having one. Second, what question?
Wed Jul 17, 2013, 12:37 AM
Jul 2013

And third calling me a coward, says to me that you are on the wrong sight. DU is a sight for "politically liberal" people and you fail the test. I hope someone alerts but I am not going to give you the satisfaction. I want your post to stand so everyone can see exactly what you stand for. As for me, I am putting you on ignore because I dont have time for your petty bullshit.

DevonRex

(22,541 posts)
32. Jesus christ will you just stop with the name calling? Discuss an issue
Wed Jul 17, 2013, 12:45 AM
Jul 2013

for a fucking change. Stop creating problems, sewing discord, causing bad blood between DUers. Just stop it.

rhett o rick (28,812 posts)
20. This thread is a great example of posters with no substance but only ad hominem comments that they think are cute.
http://election.democraticunderground.com/10023273419#post20

rhett o rick (28,812 posts)
42. That's the usual rationalization of those that are afraid to venture out and have

an open-minded discussion. Now if he had said the same statement about George Bush, I am betting this thread would read a lot different. Situational ethics.
http://election.democraticunderground.com/10023273419#post42

rhett o rick (28,812 posts)
61. I would love to discuss this issue, but not with someone that isnt interested in anything

but character assassinations and ridicule. To me having an "open mind" means willing to listen to both sides w/o resorting to logical fallacies.
http://election.democraticunderground.com/10023273419#post61

rhett o rick (28,812 posts)
70. You should read the book, "The Authoritarians". I think you would find it
enlightening.

I would like to have a decent conversation about what r. Sirota had to say, but this thread is a group-grop intended only to gang up and ridicule the author and ignore the subject. Ad hominem.
http://election.democraticunderground.com/10023273419#post70

rhett o rick (28,812 posts)
149. Snowden did make YOU "aware of anything that we didnt know was already happening" because you have

your finger in your ears and your eyes closed. You have no evidence that Snowden delivered anything to anyone. Your lies are only attempts to cover up any possible wrong doing by the authoritarian state that, apparently you worship. Heaven save us from those that have sold their souls to the authoritarian state.
http://election.democraticunderground.com/10023245116#post149


AND,.OH, THE FUCKING IRONY OF THIS ONE:

rhett o rick (28,814 posts)
133. The authoritarian apologists have nothing. They resort to attempts at bullying by name calling.

Hate to tell them that open-minded people are beyond being intimidated by name-calling.

Those that want to use bully tactics to shut down discussion about illegal behavior of our government are conservatives and have no business in our party.
http://election.democraticunderground.com/10023129938#post133

zappaman

(20,606 posts)
34. the fact that they can't answer a simple question and instead
Wed Jul 17, 2013, 01:47 AM
Jul 2013

resort to name calling..tells you all you need to know.

DevonRex

(22,541 posts)
35. The fact that the most vile name calling against us doesn't get hidden here
Wed Jul 17, 2013, 01:01 PM
Jul 2013

also tells me all I need to know. You saw this one I presume?

Corruption Inc (135 posts)
76. They are mentally ill, they can't help themselves

Most are Rs anyway.
http://election.democraticunderground.com/10023260719#post76

The jury wouldn't even hide that from someone who's only been here a few months, with 135 posts.

pnwmom

(108,990 posts)
6. But the Fox news anchor didn't even mention Hastings name,
Tue Jul 16, 2013, 07:58 PM
Jul 2013

so I think your subject line is misleading.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
9. Are you a fan of Sen Warren?
Tue Jul 16, 2013, 08:02 PM
Jul 2013

Here is a post you might like: www.democraticunderground.com/1017131356

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
11. You're splitting hairs here
Tue Jul 16, 2013, 08:05 PM
Jul 2013

It says what it says, because that's how the report struck me.

It's called "connecting the dots" as I see them.

I made NO false claim, as it's clearly conjecture, not a statement of fact.

If you don't like my OP as is, you're welcome to 'proceed' to embarrass
yourself by trying to get the OP banned, if that's your thing.

zappaman

(20,606 posts)
12. Ooohhhhh...now I get it.
Tue Jul 16, 2013, 08:07 PM
Jul 2013

You OP is not factual...except in your head.
Thanks for the look inside your mind!
Carry on!

Archae

(46,344 posts)
18. 50 years from now...
Tue Jul 16, 2013, 08:23 PM
Jul 2013

People are still going to believe in this steaming pile of horseshit.

Just look at all the "To hell with all the evidence" nutcases who think Oliver Stone's "JFK" is a documentary.

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
20. Yes, of course. Nothing to see here.
Tue Jul 16, 2013, 08:29 PM
Jul 2013

Cars accelerate out of control and burst into flames all the time,
especially right before someone's important meeting for a scoop of
a clandestine nature.

What was I thinking?

zappaman

(20,606 posts)
22. "Cars accelerate out of control"
Tue Jul 16, 2013, 08:33 PM
Jul 2013

Is that what happened?
Did not know the investigation had uncovered that. Could you link please?

And yes, if you press hard on the pedal on the right hand side of the floor(it's called an accelerator), you can make the vehicle go fast.

Cars do burst into flames since sometimes in crashes a spark will ignite what is called "gasoline" thus creating a fire and sometimes an explosion.
You can look it up if you'd like.

Yes...what were you thinking?

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
27. Richard Clark
Tue Jul 16, 2013, 09:23 PM
Jul 2013

Clarke (Former U.S. National Coordinator for Security, Infrastructure Protection, and Counter-terrorism said, "There is reason to believe that intelligence agencies for major powers" -- including the United States -- know how to remotely seize control of a car.

"What has been revealed as a result of some research at universities is that it's relatively easy to hack your way into the control system of a car, and to do such things as cause acceleration when the driver doesn't want acceleration, to throw on the brakes when the driver doesn't want the brakes on, to launch an air bag," Clarke told The Huffington Post. "You can do some really highly destructive things now, through hacking a car, and it's not that hard."

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
23. Good Luck to ANYONE trying to "hack" any of my old Low Tech vehicles,
Tue Jul 16, 2013, 08:42 PM
Jul 2013

...but if they want to come over and help me Jump Start my old truck,
they are welcome.

SomethingFishy

(4,876 posts)
36. +1 the only "computer" in my old piece of crap is
Wed Jul 17, 2013, 01:04 PM
Jul 2013

the broken calculator in the glove box.

But hey, they can take their best shot....

Progressive dog

(6,918 posts)
25. Could have been a lightening strike or a meteorite too,
Tue Jul 16, 2013, 08:53 PM
Jul 2013

probably just as likely. I'll bet there have even been TV shows that inadvertently imply Hastings was killed by them.

Hydra

(14,459 posts)
29. Bwah!
Tue Jul 16, 2013, 11:14 PM
Jul 2013

I see some naysaying here, but it's ironic that Faux Noise inadvertently told us what happened in the framework of "Al-Qaeda."

Even more interesting since they cremated Hasting's body without permission and are not releasing info to FOIA requests.

BTW, I assumed they did it some other way, but this casts a vote toward the hacked car....gotta love what "safe" new technology brings us.

 

AllINeedIsCoffee

(772 posts)
37. Sometimes an orange is just an orange and a reckless driver is just a reckless driver.
Wed Jul 17, 2013, 01:05 PM
Jul 2013

Thankfully, he harmed no innocents in his complete disregard for the laws of the road.

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
38. Hastings' "complete disregard for the laws of the road" <--your words
Wed Jul 17, 2013, 01:26 PM
Jul 2013

You are one sick puppy, to crudely slander and insult a dead man as you are doing here,
a man who was most likely murdered in cold blood by his own government (for being the
"wrong" kind of journalist, i.e. the kind who still cares deeply about the US Constitution).

Welcome to my ignore list.

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