Did I hear right???

[loyalsister]

A juror interviewed by Martin Bashir said that she based her decision on the stand your ground law? That is not the law that he was tried under.
That is essentially a belief based in gun culture philosophy. Thanks to the gun nuts we are moving toward open season on anyone - minorities first.
I fear for my and other states that are adopting these laws that are turning out to be extremely dangerous.

[Hoyt]

1. It was always a self-defense case that included Stand Your Ground. The gun cultists lied about it

not being a SYG case. They love these laws, more opportunity to pull their gun on people when other alternatives are available.

[uponit7771]

3. +1, I think if people understood that SYG was going to be included in jury instructions peoples...

...expectations would've been managed better from the offset of the trial

[uponit7771]

2. Yes you are right, the jury even asked about negligence during deliberates to get around SYG...

...because according to B37 they wanted to convinct him of something but couldn't because of the way the SYG stipulations were written in the jury instructions.

VERY BAD LAW

[loyalsister]

10. Those stipulations weren't even supposed to be there though- right?

If they brought it up it was contrary to their instructions and purely cultural\philosophical.

[Ruby the Liberal]

4. Which juror did Bashir have on?

The woman on AC360 last night said this would be her "first and last interview" and that she wanted to get her (convoluted, error ridden) story out and then go back to her life.

She going for the full 15 by making the rounds, or was this a different one?

[loyalsister]

7. Not sure

She sounded like a person who reads the NRA propaganda regularly.

[Ruby the Liberal]

13. Hi LS,

Sounds like he was referencing the CNN interview last night. If you can stomach the sheer incompetence, here is the full video.

Jaw dropping doesn't begin to describe this woman's "insight".

[loyalsister]

15. Thanks!

It's truly sickening. I have heard it compared with Emmit Till, but in some ways I think it's worse. At least Emmit Till was accused by a living person before the hideous events.
Trayvon was gunned down with invalid allegation of being in the wrong place coming after his murder. What a severe devolution of our justice system.

[Saturday]

9. Bashir had tape of the AC 360 interview...

not the actual juror.

[Ruby the Liberal]

12. Ah - thanks!

[Egalitarian Thug]

5. We've spent a century making Americans stupid enough to believe the utterly

absurd BS that is "common knowledge" today, so this is what you get.

[rurallib]

6. shoot- why should jurors worry their pretty little heads about

things like laws

[loyalsister]

8. or instructions given by judges

What a travesty!!

[spedtr90]

11. Stand Your Ground is the state’s self-defense law

Written instructions that sat with the jurors as they deliberated made very clear that under Florida law, a shooter has a right to stand his ground:

"If George Zimmerman was not engaged in an unlawful activity and was attacked in anyplace where he had a right to be, he had no duty to retreat and had the right to stand his ground and meet force with force, including deadly force if he reasonably believed that it was necessary to do so to prevent death or great bodily harm to himself or another or to prevent the commission of a forcible felony."

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/07/15/2301621/why-stand-your-ground-is-central-to-george-zimmermans-case-after-all/

[loyalsister]

14. The shooter but not the person he admittedly stalked

I hate to see what the future brings with this sick mentality where a bad law has been adopted as a cultural norm. We are a seriously screwed up country.