So much for the theory that an all-female jury was bad news for Zimmerman

[davidn3600]

I remember people saying that Zimmerman was toast because most of these women have children of their own and will relate to Trayvon.

If they were all like B37, the prosecution never had a chance. It seems they related to Zimmerman.

Going from a psychological standpoint, I think what played into this is that the jury heard from Zimmerman over and over and over again. He didn't even have to testify because they played the 911 tapes constantly through the entire trial. So Zimmerman was able to indirectly testify his side of the story without being cross-examined. And it humanized him. In the minds of the jury, those tapes showed that he believed that Trayvon was a criminal "up to no good" and he was trying to protect his neighborhood. And that is the narrative that the jurors latched on to. Meanwhile, Trayvon was sort of an unknown victim. There was nothing given by the prosecution that the jury could relate to with him.

[Blue_Tires]

1. and that's the fucking fault of the prosecutors...

and of course the 911 call was full of lies and half-assed assumptions

1. Martin was possibly armed and on drugs
2. Martin was possibly a suspect in a number of burglaries
3. Martin was either committing or about to commit a felony


of course if the victim was white, then it's a LOT easier to build some tear-jerking narrative...but it's all moot, because as one juror already said, her mind was decided before the trial started, and I'm betting at least two more jurors were thinking the same thing...

[geek tragedy]

2. race trumps gender. nt

[Historic NY]

3. Apparently they didn't use jury consultants....

or they would have known that, PPPOTPP...piss poor performance on the prosecutors part. Then again wasn't that what they wanted all along.

[Hoyt]

4. She might have been as good as they were going to do in that locality.

Actually, I agree with you.

What really disturbs me is that not one of those jurors had the guts to stick it out for another day or two.

[JI7]

7. that's another thing, there are people who know when something is right/wrong

but it's not convenient for them so they are willing to let what they know is wrong occur so they don't have to be there over the weekened.

[MyOpinion-2]

5. Five White women and one Spanish woman

And so much for my believing that five White women and one Spanish woman had evolved to a point that a black person could get a fair outcome in a trial . I'm still waiting for the day when all people of color can be judged, not by the color of their skin, but the content of their character that will be the day, I think, we will have overcome racisms.

[JI7]

6. i would be interested in knowing how they deliberated and who dominated, i have a feeling

that b37 had an agenda from the start.

if the other women are the type who can be easily influenced or just not care enough and want to go home it would have been easy.

i have seen situations where there might be someone who seems to have the right reasonable position but are dominated by others and they end up going along. not always because they switch positions but just because they are not the type who want any kind of conflict.

[davidn3600]

8. Lots of people are like that

That's a personality trait. Some are more confrontational and will defend their opinions and want to dominate the room. Other people are more laid back "go with the flow" types.

That's why it might be better for juries to have 12 members and not 6. Especially in a case like this, it could have benefited greatly by having people representing various backgrounds and experiences in life.

[Baitball Blogger]

9. If they were anything like my in-laws,

Trayvon was never going to see justice. Fear, fear, fear. They have been raised on it.

[Rex]

10. I was one of those, thought the maternal instinct

would sway them more than the cops testimony (which they were supposed to ignore too). Shows how stupid I am.

[kelliekat44]

11. I never believed it would be a good thing. I have impressed in my mind too many white women

standing under the hanging tree holding babies in their arms and too many of them standing on the sidelines screaming racial slurs as black children walked to newly integrated schools...and I worked with a lot of them whose only qualification for their job was their relationship with the boss or bosses and how they treated any newbie as a threat. And I remember the pictures of those who murdered their own children and were somehow released and pitied. Having a child does not make every woman compassionate or understanding. When you are reared to hate that is all you know and the only way you think. There are bad people in every race and my heart aches for all those young black boys and girls who are killed by other black boys and girls. No one race has a lock on goodness or evil.

But this I do know...the justice system in America is not just and it is most unjust to people of color with African-Americans at the top of the list. I know this because I live this. It would have been the same for Trayvon had he been wearing a three-piece suit and walking along with a bag of Skittles. This is the problem with the gun culture among most whites. Zimmerman fulfilled what far too many gun lovers dream of doing: having an excuse to to shoot and kill a black person and getting away with it. Now they don't even need an excuse.