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roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
Sun Jul 14, 2013, 07:34 PM Jul 2013

A Trayvon tweet that says it all

A tweet by Alex Fraser on twitter earlier in the day. Says it all for me.

Dear George Zimmerman,

For the rest of your life you are going to feel what its like to be a black man in America.

You will feel people stare at you. Judging you for what you feel are unfair reasons. You will lose out on getting jobs for something that you feel is outside your control. You will believe yourself to be an upstanding citizen and wonder why people choose not to see that.

People will cross the street when they see you coming. They will call you hurtful names. It will drive you so insane some days that you will want to scream at the top of your lungs. But you will have to wake up the next day, put on a firm look and push through life.

I bet you never thought that by shooting a black male you'd end up inheriting all his struggles.

Enjoy your 'freedom'.

Sincerely,

A black male who could have been Trayvon Martin

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A Trayvon tweet that says it all (Original Post) roguevalley Jul 2013 OP
Thumbs Up! nt Raine Jul 2013 #1
I don't agree connecticut yankee Jul 2013 #69
Wish I Could Agree With You SoCalMusicLover Jul 2013 #2
Im with you. that shitbag could walk down any street here and nobody would recognize him. pasto76 Jul 2013 #4
doesn't matter Skittles Jul 2013 #6
That was my thinking as well. calimary Jul 2013 #30
maybe it is karma that George has to forever fear vigilantism Skittles Jul 2013 #35
Wow Calimary - I think you nailed it. Marie Marie Jul 2013 #39
I totally agree mimi85 Jul 2013 #40
Absolutely agree with you. n/t Tess49 Jul 2013 #50
As a psychologist - PsychGrad Jul 2013 #52
Welcome to DU, PsychGrad! calimary Jul 2013 #81
Thank you.... PsychGrad Jul 2013 #83
I believe he will see Trayvon Martin wherever he goes. Voice for Peace Jul 2013 #55
You should make this an OP laundry_queen Jul 2013 #56
Well said. N_E_1 for Tennis Jul 2013 #66
he heaven05 Jul 2013 #8
Sure, meanit Jul 2013 #23
One day he will decide he wants to go to Disney World or any such place Raine Jul 2013 #22
he'll be a hero in sanford. eom ellenfl Jul 2013 #36
what the hell could he put in a book? 7962 Jul 2013 #38
"My Story" Voice for Peace Jul 2013 #58
How about "So what if I was looking for someone to kill. I got off" tavalon Jul 2013 #79
I don't think so. tblue Jul 2013 #43
I agree lolly Jul 2013 #46
not sure how accurate this is but tiredtoo Jul 2013 #44
He's already raking in the money... PsychGrad Jul 2013 #51
THANK-YOU!! SkyDaddy7 Jul 2013 #62
We should all be so lucky in life as he was tavalon Jul 2013 #78
Kicked and Recommending! sheshe2 Jul 2013 #3
kr warrior1 Jul 2013 #5
Wow! K&R n/t KT2000 Jul 2013 #7
Just...Wow. Well put nonoxy9 Jul 2013 #9
Will Not be that Bad for Zimmerman erpowers Jul 2013 #10
You're wrong if you think it's only black people. TDale313 Jul 2013 #17
I Understand erpowers Jul 2013 #26
I knew what you were saying. TDale313 Jul 2013 #29
He may get support from some people, CakeGrrl Jul 2013 #84
Zimmerman too dysfunctional lolly Jul 2013 #24
He can beg all he wants. blackspade Jul 2013 #47
He may be welcomed in conservatives communities but one day he is Raine Jul 2013 #25
Zimmerman now has only one set of friends: meanit Jul 2013 #28
Welcome to DU, meanit! calimary Jul 2013 #32
Thank you! meanit Jul 2013 #80
He couldn't earn a living before. His wife is guilty of perjury. His dad is a money hustler with a mbperrin Jul 2013 #34
He may be given a decent job lolly Jul 2013 #48
And the guy was living with his girlfriend in the complex brush Jul 2013 #65
he may need a private bodyguard for the rest of his life. Voice for Peace Jul 2013 #59
I don't know about that brush Jul 2013 #64
Do Not Think It Will Happen to Them erpowers Jul 2013 #68
Nah! They're gonna drop him now that they got the verdict they wanted brush Jul 2013 #71
What eloquence! What depth of sadness and feeling. another_liberal Jul 2013 #11
Brilliant but malaise Jul 2013 #12
It's on Facebook, but going viral both platforms: Hissyspit Jul 2013 #18
It's excellent malaise Jul 2013 #19
It was a facebook update that was tweeted a gazillion times today Ruby the Liberal Jul 2013 #20
Cool malaise Jul 2013 #21
I can only hope that this will be GW's future. mountain grammy Jul 2013 #13
One can only wish.nt historylovr Jul 2013 #14
Approve the sentiment and hope it is true truebluegreen Jul 2013 #15
He lives in Florida Mr.Bill Jul 2013 #16
You're probably right Politicalboi Jul 2013 #61
OMG! This is poetry.................. TheDebbieDee Jul 2013 #27
Great Tweet... ReRe Jul 2013 #31
Thank you mstinamotorcity2 Jul 2013 #33
you are welcome roguevalley Jul 2013 #57
Fox news will offer him a job rustydog Jul 2013 #37
He'll move on. Igel Jul 2013 #41
They were saying on the radio that he'll have to go into hiding. lindysalsagal Jul 2013 #42
Right on. blackspade Jul 2013 #45
One other prediction lolly Jul 2013 #49
IMO the prosecution blew it. xtraxritical Jul 2013 #53
wallowing in freakish pain forever Voice for Peace Jul 2013 #54
Just asking... GreedIsGood Jul 2013 #60
Welcome to DU, GreedIsGood! calimary Jul 2013 #82
Thanks calimary!! GreedIsGood Jul 2013 #85
K&R n/t myrna minx Jul 2013 #63
Another K&R from me. Raine1967 Jul 2013 #67
It's Not About Zimmerman j3161usa Jul 2013 #70
Except, people won't look at Zimmerman that way, he will actually prosper Change Happens Jul 2013 #72
Slightly beside the point but was this really a tweet? Gidney N Cloyd Jul 2013 #73
Impossible. AtheistCrusader Jul 2013 #75
I think he will get a job pretty quickly with Fox News. They seem to hire all of those types patricia92243 Jul 2013 #74
The job part may not happen EC Jul 2013 #76
This I believe tavalon Jul 2013 #77

connecticut yankee

(1,728 posts)
69. I don't agree
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 09:53 AM
Jul 2013

I think he'll be offered a well-paying job by some White Supremacist/Tea Bagger and live in comfort for the rest of his life. He'll have plenty of friends, too -- there are many people who see him as a "Hero."


edit-- typo

 

SoCalMusicLover

(3,194 posts)
2. Wish I Could Agree With You
Sun Jul 14, 2013, 07:44 PM
Jul 2013

But there are obviously MANY, MANY supporters, who will do everything they can to help the guy. He'll be hated by some, but adored by others. Witness all the funds he took in to help with his case.

He'll just have to choose his friends wisely, and he'll be fine. Besides, he stands to make money off a book deal, and who knows what else down the road.

We should all be so lucky in life as he was.

pasto76

(1,589 posts)
4. Im with you. that shitbag could walk down any street here and nobody would recognize him.
Sun Jul 14, 2013, 08:08 PM
Jul 2013

he might get, MIGHT get, a look when he uses his credit card. I wish everyone predicting this life of hell for him would be right, I really dont see anything like that happening. unless the media keeps hounding him ie, ZIMMERDOUCHE MOVES TO TUCSON headlines, he will fall off the map. Or if he does a sarah palin and inserts himself at every opportunity.

Skittles

(153,164 posts)
6. doesn't matter
Sun Jul 14, 2013, 08:10 PM
Jul 2013

that gutless coward will be looking over his shoulder for the rest of his life - and his fellow gun-humping cowards already got what they wanted - for Zimmy to be found not guilty of stalking and killing an innocent black teen

calimary

(81,286 posts)
30. That was my thinking as well.
Sun Jul 14, 2013, 09:44 PM
Jul 2013

He is gonna be looking over his shoulder for the rest of his life.

Just consider the type of person I think we can surmise he is, from his behavior. WAY overreacting, criminally-so IMO, in this case. A history of violent, disruptive behavior - nothing to the severity of having killed someone, but it looks as though he has anger issues and complexes of all kinds. Can't get into the police force to which he presumes he's ordained. Can't get his woman to obey (so he assaults her), can't get those "fucking punks" to stop defying him (because, remember, "they always get away&quot . There are several manifestations of these. I read somewhere in the midst of all this, a theory about the kind of individual with some pretty profound authoritarian issues - he MUST be obeyed. OR ELSE. Has to be "in charge," "the enforcer," the guy to be feared - what the heck went on in his house when he was a little kid???? WHAT is he trying to compensate for? Needed that gun with him.

With the kind of mental/moral turmoil he's in, he needed to underscore his Alpha Male status, especially with a dad with a distinguished career (retired judge - a civic leader with kind of standing judges have) whom perhaps he feels he has to out-do. He's got a brother in there, too that he has to assert dominance over as well. They probably fought over that and everything else as kids. JUST GUESSING HERE, but I'm trying to figure out this guy to assess the kind of danger he now poses to the general public - as the new president of the "Beat-the-Rap Club." Still very likely keeping the "Most Hated Man in America" title - heck, MORESO now.

Seems like a jumpy guy. Otherwise why would he feel the need to be packin' heat all the time? WHY would he want a concealed carry permit? Why would he be going out for all these police positions, hanging out and befriending officers and City Hall people (maybe contacts through his dad?) and be hung up on self-defense class. What was it he was taking? MME or something? Several hours a week, three times a day? And given all this, he still felt like such a weenie that he insists that was him screaming like a little boy for help in an altercation with an unarmed teenager while he himself was armed? I mean, WHAT kind of macho-wannabe, tough-guy complex is THIS???

My guess is that George Zimmerman has been simmering for a long time in a witches' brew of negative emotions and conflicts and fears - LOTS of fears and insecurities and uncertainties in this guy. TONS. A paranoiac, too. He seems like a guy who sees boogey men everywhere. And personally, he's had problems with his wife, they've had money problems - surely he deserves a MUCH more kingly sum than whatever he's been getting paid. I mean, look at the first thing they did with all the donations that flooded in? Went straight to their credit cards that had high-five-figure debts accumulated. Perhaps he's the kind of guy with his manhood all tied up in his earning power and his ability to be Lord Breadwinner, as his father probably was (on a judge's salary). So he probably has a complex about that, because with all that debt piling up, he evidently wasn't able to stay on top of it with what paychecks he brought in. No fair. Upstanding guy, deserves better out of life, and the "bad guys" are getting away with everything! Gotta blame somebody for it all, because seriously, it can't possibly be HIS fault. He's the real victim here. Criminy, his ENTIRE position in this crime was based on fear!

So if he was fearful and paranoid, believing the worst in some "types" of people, BEFORE he shot Trayvon Martin, he'll be consumed with it now. I would recommend against making eye contact with him, if ever one chanced upon him. And get as far away as quickly as possible. As good as it may ever get for him - probably the Pox Noise brigade will be offering him a contract or at least frequent face time and there'll be book deals and the speaker circuit sponsored by the NRA and/or the Heritage Foundation or some such crackpot organization - he will always be in discomfort. Unsure. Uncomfortable in his own skin. Jumpy. Fearful. Paranoid. I would imagine what's in him will get him into trouble again. He thought he might have enemies before. Unfortunately, he definitely does now. But he has NO ONE to blame. And maybe deep down, this little itch in his conscience keeps telling him that - and he keeps insisting he's innocent of that, too. Being around people in denial, what I've noticed is that the denial often covers up a deep-down realization that it really IS you at fault. But if you have enough scapegoats and excuses maybe you can drown it out or ignore it or somehow make it not so.

This guy's a mess. Inside he'll be messed up for a long time, worse than ever now. I expect to see something in Latest Breaking News one of these days, detailing some new fuck-up of his, some new fight he was in or arrest or the cops called to his house or some such thing (THAT will be someone else's fault too - just watch).

I heard he was even going to get his gun back. Oh boy! Sounds like the last of the ingredients is set out on the kitchen counter again. Now we just wait til he turns on the stove.

Skittles

(153,164 posts)
35. maybe it is karma that George has to forever fear vigilantism
Sun Jul 14, 2013, 09:59 PM
Jul 2013

he who was so willing to practice vigilantism

PsychGrad

(239 posts)
52. As a psychologist -
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 01:00 AM
Jul 2013

You said everything I have surmised from all the videos of him and such. I have zero respect for this guy, he is the epitome of a coward. And he KNEW the gun was the equalizer - and used it the SECOND he was in over his head (and yes, with a gangly teenager that he outweighed by at least 50 pounds!).

This guy will get his - and nobody is going to have to do anything other than just breathe for it to happen. He's TERRIFIED of the world, and everything in it. I'm actually shocked he didn't drive his SUV into the dog path to run Trayvon down - I'm surprised he was brave enough to get out and risk a confrontation. But then again, he KNEW he had the gun on his hip too - and he had already tried to convince the dispatcher that Trayvon had "something in his hand, I don't know what his problem is, he must be on drugs or something, just leisurely walking around looking at houses".

This guy has Napoleon syndrome, for sure. That's a given. And all the things he is doing to "prove" that he is a man - my only other guess is possibly bisexual or homosexual and unable to deal with that - I only say that because of the MANY attempts to appear to me "macho" or "manly" or what he perceives to be manly.

But the "oh, others are getting away with stuff and I'm working for well below what I deserve, financially AND recognition wise" is DEAD ON. Classic right wing thought process, imo. God forbid someone else is "getting away with something" - and I must play god and make it right, bc I'm self righteous and KNOW what's best for everyone, and I'm always doing what's right, it's god's will. Ugh.

calimary

(81,286 posts)
81. Welcome to DU, PsychGrad!
Tue Jul 16, 2013, 01:26 PM
Jul 2013

Glad you're here! And thank you for this post! I am NOT a psychologist. Just an observer and mom and older woman who's been around for long enough to spend a fair amount of time studying and pondering human nature a little bit. TOTAL amateur here, but I do like trying to figure out people's deep-seated motivations to understand what makes them tick and do what they do, and what kind of behavioral displays to expect. Not that you can predict what people do, but I think you can piece together trends, or inclinations, of some sort, and at least get some minimal idea of who/what you're dealing with.

Your assessment is incredibly interesting and valid, I think. I'm sure the "macho" thing plays out HUGELY with this particular individual, and in all the permutations you've considered.

And I walk a weird line here. I do indeed fervently hope that he will get his someday, even while I hate the idea of wishing evil on anyone. I also hate the whole idea of rewarding and reinforcing bad behavior, as I fear this jury's ruling will do - not only with Zimmerman but also with all the Rambo-wannabes out there with grudges and hard-ons to play Lone Ranger and the certainty that God is on their side, especially with firearms so easily accessible. And I just LOVE that ridiculous, unbalanced, nauseating "it's God's will" cop-out crap that these types inevitably tend to hide behind.

Sadly, he HAS NOT been given the message that what he did was not okay. Quite the opposite! So he will learn nothing from this. Which is very bad news for all the rest of us who have to live with him and be alert about him, and keep even our older children safe from him, and watch over OUR shoulders for his approach. After all, as far as I know, he has been allowed to get his gun back. His track record even before this was NOT good. There's no reason to expect that he'll learn or grow from this, or get beyond it, or deal with some pretty awful, deep-seated stuff that drives him to this kind of response. He still stands in total unrepentant certitude that he did the "right" thing and has nothing to apologize for, or regret.

We are ALL at risk as long as he walks free.

I think your conclusions are spot-on. Thanks for posting them!

PsychGrad

(239 posts)
83. Thank you....
Tue Jul 16, 2013, 01:46 PM
Jul 2013

I've been here a few years, but mostly just read, rarely posted. I did post back in the day on that whole Todd Akin thing, and now this. Just, some things I HAVE to post on, ya know? lol

I have been doing what I do for about 10 years, and I'm pretty confident in my assessments of people. I have been trained (by insurance companies, unfortunately) to assess quickly and accurately (6 sessions is the average they give us). So, I don't have a lot of time to think about it - thankfully, I was well trained and have proven to be pretty accurate. Just with the information that I have currently (and I think we are still lacking a LOT of valid info in this case, esp re: Zimmerman) - I have a pretty strong idea of who and what Zimmerman is. I know a few people like him - ugh.

You don't have to be an "expert" to know right from wrong - obviously! Nor do you need a degree in Psychology to see when someone is dysfunctional - esp. not Zimmerman, he's got enough dysfunction going on that the laymen of the world can see it plain as day. My only issue is, I can't decide which dysfunction he has the MOST of... bc he shows several categories of it.

I would be really interested in seeing a psych eval on him - but of course, I'm a nerd and like those things and find it interesting. I am wondering why one wasn't done as it was my understanding that he didn't make the police force bc of something of this nature... that could be just conjecture, I haven't verified it. But, it wouldn't surprise me if he was found "unfit" emotionally....

Thanks again for the welcome and sharing your thoughts... I feel the same way about him that you do. And, agree, he won't learn from this bc he doesn't see anything wrong with what he did at all. We will see him in court again, I have no doubt. I wish I knew more about his childhood - I'm banking on bullying, animal aggression, bedwetting... maybe a few other things, but of course, those are all just guesses.

 

Voice for Peace

(13,141 posts)
55. I believe he will see Trayvon Martin wherever he goes.
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 01:25 AM
Jul 2013

Every black boy. Every hoodie.

In his neighborhood, on the street, over his shoulder, in the dark,
in his dreams. He may think he is getting away with it but he
never can.

laundry_queen

(8,646 posts)
56. You should make this an OP
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 01:45 AM
Jul 2013

This is exactly spot on. I've always maintained his family is severely dysfunctional because I've witnessed that same 'circling of the wagons' from severely dysfunctional families. I can only imagine what went on in his household as he was growing up. Your analysis is exactly what I've always thought.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
8. he
Sun Jul 14, 2013, 08:25 PM
Jul 2013

will be coddled and protected by the amerikkkan white supremacist movement. They've got their darling...karma does have a way of catching up to people and balancing things out, though.

meanit

(455 posts)
23. Sure,
Sun Jul 14, 2013, 09:06 PM
Jul 2013

the gun loons and right wing wackos will coddle and protect him.... for a while. But when his usefulness runs out, they'll drop him like a hot rock.

Raine

(30,540 posts)
22. One day he will decide he wants to go to Disney World or any such place
Sun Jul 14, 2013, 09:06 PM
Jul 2013

and he will find it not so pleasant. EVERYTHING he wants to do and EVERY PLACE he wants to go is going to take second thoughts and concern.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
38. what the hell could he put in a book?
Sun Jul 14, 2013, 10:05 PM
Jul 2013

I mean, we SAW the trial, what else could he write about? He doesnt have some hard luck story or something else that would interest anyone. To me anyway.

tblue

(16,350 posts)
43. I don't think so.
Sun Jul 14, 2013, 11:10 PM
Jul 2013

They're done with him, or will be soon. They got what they wanted--an acquittal for shooting a black man, the SYG law confirmed. They have no need to parade this clown around. What would they get out of that? Nothing. The Right is nothing if not self-serving, opportunistic, and exploitative. They use people as long as they serve a purpose, then it's like they hardly have heard of him. You watch. His star's gonna burn out any minute.

lolly

(3,248 posts)
46. I agree
Sun Jul 14, 2013, 11:38 PM
Jul 2013

He's not a very useful poster boy.

For all the same reasons that he got to where he is--he's a paranoid coward with a massive craving for heroic status.

He probably won't do well on the wingnut welfare speaker circuit for the same reason he didn't testify. He probably sounds like he's lying even when he's not.

He's not going to take his fall gracefully, though.

tiredtoo

(2,949 posts)
44. not sure how accurate this is but
Sun Jul 14, 2013, 11:34 PM
Jul 2013

marc geragas said all the money he has received has been spent on lawyers. also they said a civil suit may be coming and you don't really get rich off a book deal.
Casey Anthony is not living the good life. Nor OJ Simpson. No i do not see a pleasant future for Zimmerman but then he has a future unlike his victim. so sad so very very sad.

PsychGrad

(239 posts)
51. He's already raking in the money...
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 12:53 AM
Jul 2013

from all of those supporters (and his wife lied about it on the stand, no less). He had a website up and running in NO time for his "living and legal expenses"... ugh. And the money is POURING in. They lied about approximately $130,000 0n the stand, claiming to be "broke" after already getting that much "donated" to them... and that was the initial amount BEFORE the trial started. Who knows how much they have brought in since then. Shysters.

SkyDaddy7

(6,045 posts)
62. THANK-YOU!!
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 05:48 AM
Jul 2013

Far too many people don't get it! I am so sick of hearing how "bad" Zimmerman's life will be...George Zimmerman will have it made!! He will get job offers & he will make millions selling his book on talk radio & who knows what else endorsements he might be showered with by the Conservative Entertainment Industry & the gun industry!!

Meanwhile Trayvon is DEAD!

tavalon

(27,985 posts)
78. We should all be so lucky in life as he was
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 05:04 PM
Jul 2013

I would die a million deaths knowing I had a shot and killed an innocent child of any color. I would probably kill myself within a year, being unable to hold up the weight of my guilt.

erpowers

(9,350 posts)
10. Will Not be that Bad for Zimmerman
Sun Jul 14, 2013, 08:42 PM
Jul 2013

Many people are saying that George Zimmerman's life will be hard after this trial, but I do not see it that way. Maybe I am wrong, but I think Zimmerman will be able to get a good job and will be able to love a decent life. I think there will be a large amount of white Republicans who will be willing to help him out with jobs and money. I also believe there will be numerous conservative communities that will welcome Zimmerman. So, yes, a large number of black people will dislike Zimmerman and not want to live near him; however, a number of white Republicans will have the opposite set of feelings.

TDale313

(7,820 posts)
17. You're wrong if you think it's only black people.
Sun Jul 14, 2013, 08:57 PM
Jul 2013

I'm a middle aged white woman, and I hope this sorry excuse of a human being suffers even a fraction of the pain he's caused others. Guilt's not in his repertoire, but paranoia and self pity sure as hell are.

erpowers

(9,350 posts)
26. I Understand
Sun Jul 14, 2013, 09:12 PM
Jul 2013

When I was writing my post I was tempted to write white and black Republicans instead of just white Republicans. I realize there are many white people at DU who are upset about the verdict. In addition, I saw a number of white people protesting after the verdict. So, a better statement from me would be there will be a number of people who will be willing to give support to George Zimmerman.

CakeGrrl

(10,611 posts)
84. He may get support from some people,
Tue Jul 16, 2013, 04:28 PM
Jul 2013

but by and large, his quality of life, at least here in America, will be on par with OJ or Casey Anthony, if not worse.

I'm sure they're playing for sympathy, but his parents claim that they and Zimmerman are in hiding for all the death threats. If so, they've reaped what they've sown with their racism and arrogance.

If some benefactors want to give Zimmerman the good life, he's going to have to live it in a bubble, which will take a toll. Social networking will broadcast his ugly character far and wide.

lolly

(3,248 posts)
24. Zimmerman too dysfunctional
Sun Jul 14, 2013, 09:11 PM
Jul 2013

It's unfortunately likely that he will get book deals and wingnut welfare in the aftermath of this.

I can't see his star lasting very long, though. He's an unpleasant, socially incompetent egotist with a nasty temper.

AFAICT, no one who has had much to do with him can stand him.

In a few years, he will have annoyed the wingnuts in charge, and they will move on to a newer, more photogenic, less moronic hero.

At that point, I'm willing to bet he pulls another stunt to try to regain his hero status. Let's hope if it does play out this way, he's the only one who gets hurt next time.

On edit: I hear he's begging for donations. How much you wanna bet he blows everything he gets within a year, two at the most?

Raine

(30,540 posts)
25. He may be welcomed in conservatives communities but one day he is
Sun Jul 14, 2013, 09:11 PM
Jul 2013

to want to take a trip, go to a mall, go to a different market, take a drive, go to an amusement park, have car touble etc. Good luck on that .... I'm white and if I were ever to see him it wouldn't be pleasant.

meanit

(455 posts)
28. Zimmerman now has only one set of friends:
Sun Jul 14, 2013, 09:20 PM
Jul 2013

Right wing loons and gun nuts who think he is currently useful to their cause . Other than that, the rest of the country sees him as another O.J. Simpson. He won't be able to get a parking ticket without it being national news from now on.

He's an asshole who's gotten famous for being an asshole. That's it. He's worthless otherwise.

calimary

(81,286 posts)
32. Welcome to DU, meanit!
Sun Jul 14, 2013, 09:50 PM
Jul 2013

Glad you're here. He does take on an aura of a "new O.J. Simpson" doesn't he? Your point is excellent and I'll bet that's exactly how it plays out. He's the teabaggers' newest toy. And they'll tire of him, especially if he keeps getting into trouble and drawing adverse publicity and attracting attention. Which I think he's destined to do. As pointed out earlier in this thread - he's plenty dysfunctional already.

mbperrin

(7,672 posts)
34. He couldn't earn a living before. His wife is guilty of perjury. His dad is a money hustler with a
Sun Jul 14, 2013, 09:54 PM
Jul 2013

$3.99 eWhine book.

Ask yourself this: what's Joe the Plumber, the darling of the right, doing these days?

His due-by date is over, and George's will be, soon.

lolly

(3,248 posts)
48. He may be given a decent job
Sun Jul 14, 2013, 11:42 PM
Jul 2013

But he won't be able to hold it.

He apparently has never been able to hold a job before.

Even white Republicans will figure out that they don't want to live near this guy. Remember he was constantly calling the police to report imagined infractions against all his neighbors. He once demanded that the people swimming in the complex pool produce their IDs for him so he could verify that they had a right to swim there. How long do you think any neighborhood would welcome him?

brush

(53,782 posts)
65. And the guy was living with his girlfriend in the complex
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 08:23 AM
Jul 2013

and she was renting. Yet he carried on like he was a homeowner demanding to see IDs.

What a POS.

brush

(53,782 posts)
64. I don't know about that
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 08:19 AM
Jul 2013

Would you hire a killer? Would you want to work with a killer? Would you want to live near a killer and wonder what's going set him off again?

I sure wouldn't.

erpowers

(9,350 posts)
68. Do Not Think It Will Happen to Them
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 09:51 AM
Jul 2013

I think the Republicans who support George Zimmerman do not think he will do anything to them. I think they would be more than willing to help him.

brush

(53,782 posts)
71. Nah! They're gonna drop him now that they got the verdict they wanted
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 10:14 AM
Jul 2013

He was a useful tool. And WAS is the operative word.

 

another_liberal

(8,821 posts)
11. What eloquence! What depth of sadness and feeling.
Sun Jul 14, 2013, 08:46 PM
Jul 2013

Last edited Sun Jul 14, 2013, 10:32 PM - Edit history (1)

I shudder to imagine the emotions which must have given rise to those words.

Zimmerman is truly and certainly cursed.

Hissyspit

(45,788 posts)
18. It's on Facebook, but going viral both platforms:
Sun Jul 14, 2013, 09:00 PM
Jul 2013

@SIMPLYCORDAE: I absolutely loved this by @alexfraser this is deep and so honest!!! #Zimmerman

Dear George Zimmerman,

For the... http://t.co/gw5hAstKHV

https://www.facebook.com/cordae.gomes.5/posts/202383309919766

Ruby the Liberal

(26,219 posts)
20. It was a facebook update that was tweeted a gazillion times today
Sun Jul 14, 2013, 09:01 PM
Jul 2013

I RT'd it myself when I first read it.

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
31. Great Tweet...
Sun Jul 14, 2013, 09:46 PM
Jul 2013

K&R

And he thought it was rough living his own miserable inferiorally complex life. Yeah, after the money's all gone and things settle down, his life will fall to pieces all over again. Karma is going to catch up with GZ.

Igel

(35,317 posts)
41. He'll move on.
Sun Jul 14, 2013, 10:49 PM
Jul 2013

If the talked-about civil suit flops and Holder doesn't prosecute and win, he'll move on.

Book deal? Don't see it. He did nothing noteworthy. Don't see that he has a message. Wrong place, wrong time.

Talk shows? Don't see it happening. Too polarizing. Perhaps some uberpolarized talk shows would have him, but again, he has no message. No point. Just "I was prosecuted and found not guilty."

The trial was a cause, right and left. Trial's over. For progressives, there's what it was always about. For conservatives, eh. For some dyed-in-the-wool racists, sure, their "cause" continues. Still don't put GZ in that category.

Most people won't recognize him. Those who would today won't remember him much in 6 months. In a year it'll be mostly gone, unless some vigilante attacks.

Then again, his life wasn't great, as far as I can tell, before. However, it can get back to whatever "normal" was.

Job? What should this matter? He'll get one. Most African-Americans won't recognize him in a year. He'll look too different, esp. if he lets his hair grow. When people find out where he's working and an employer gets complaints or a boycott, then it'll matter. But don't let it be organized by anybody or any group with money. It'll also blow over and he'll move on.

The lack of condemnation and vitriole, not prognosticating boils and leprosy for GZ will probably be taken as "support." If you're not with somebody, you're not just against them but with their enemy. Takova zhizn'. C'est la vie.

lolly

(3,248 posts)
49. One other prediction
Sun Jul 14, 2013, 11:50 PM
Jul 2013

He'll be on Hannity or a similar show soon--

And he'll say something stupid that pretty much proves his guilt.

But it will be ignored/spun by conservatives.

 

xtraxritical

(3,576 posts)
53. IMO the prosecution blew it.
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 01:09 AM
Jul 2013

The prosecution should have made the center piece of their case the fact that the police told him that they would be on scene quickly and he should NOT pursue. If he had done what the police told him to do none of this would have happened.

calimary

(81,286 posts)
82. Welcome to DU, GreedIsGood!
Tue Jul 16, 2013, 01:32 PM
Jul 2013

Great to have you with us! Funny. You ask a pretty basic question there. One that was left begging, pretty much, throughout the trial.

As a mom, I just can't even imagine what Trayvon's mother is going through at this moment. I'm just heart-sick about it. After the verdict, by the time we went to bed, I laid there wide awake for hours, not able to sleep. I couldn't even pray! I kept trying to start an "Our Father," and just somehow wasn't able to complete one.

GreedIsGood

(20 posts)
85. Thanks calimary!!
Wed Jul 17, 2013, 03:02 AM
Jul 2013

Yeah it was saddening for.the mother of Trayvon and his family.

But sometimes justice is not always fair. And i think she must stop worrying now and move on. Law has taken its course.

 

j3161usa

(44 posts)
70. It's Not About Zimmerman
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 10:00 AM
Jul 2013

Zimmerman is only a hero to the NRA and the conservative right who support the NRA. The NRA lobbied for the "stand your ground law". The conservatives could'nt give a crap about zimmerman, but what he did and his acquittal gives credibility to the NRA, the conserverative right. This is why they're treating "him" as a hero. But look, these same conservatives are fighting to kick hispanics and other latin speaking people out of this country. These are the same conservatives who fought for those stupid anti-immigration laws in Arizona and California. So don't get it twisted, they are conservatives.

Change Happens

(1,559 posts)
72. Except, people won't look at Zimmerman that way, he will actually prosper
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 10:48 AM
Jul 2013

Millions will be donated to him by regular folks. Media will pay him millions for interviews, books deals will be offered, Fox News will sign him to a multi-million dollars contract to be a "security analyst."...etc, etc.

Please know, your country is very fucked up!

patricia92243

(12,595 posts)
74. I think he will get a job pretty quickly with Fox News. They seem to hire all of those types
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 11:48 AM
Jul 2013

for at least a little while.

He will have all the money that has been donated to him and will continue to be donated for at least a little while. He will have gotten away with murder and will have a good life.

With the money, he might move to some foreign country.

I wonder what Travon's life would have been like if GZ had not taken it.

EC

(12,287 posts)
76. The job part may not happen
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 02:30 PM
Jul 2013

he is a hero to the right, now. I just read he has a job now as a host of his own show on Fox. hope it's a satire...

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