Down the Rabbithole, Through the Looking Glass -- to the Grand Duchy of Derp

[flamingdem]

Ah, how used have we grown to hearing these types of comments, complete with the usual excellence in spelling, punctuation and grammar?

"Obama is getting exactly what he deserves – a thumb in the eye. Makes my day."

"Obama is coming across as a cross between a thug and a spoiled brat–and this isn’t the first time."

"I caught a glimpse of Joy Reid and Melissa Harris Perry today on MSNBC about to physically attack some poor Swedish guy from Wikileaks for daring to confront their personal attacks on Snowden, Greenwald and Wikileaks. Personally, I'd prefer if those two would go ahead and wear short skirts, sweaters with a big "O" in the center and do some good cheers. "Hey, hey, BHO, how many leakers did you screw today-o?"

(leading to the money quote)
"And people wonder why Rand and Ron Paul have appeal......"
OK—that’s all typical, right? What else would you expect from The Blaze or the Freepers or RedState or The Daily Caller or (heaven forbid) a Breitbart site?

Well, here’s the kicker--

All of the above comments are from Daily KOS, Democratic Underground, Fire Dog Lake and Crooks & Liars. (I won’t link to the specific posts because I don’t want you all to suffer the vomit-inducing feelings I had reading them. I will, however, say that these were not, as far as I could judge, people trolling on progressive sites. These were posts from long-time, regular posters, who actually took affront at anyone who dared to say anything against the dynamic duo of Snowden and Greenwald or in defense of the President, or even Democrats in general.)


http://politicalgates.blogspot.com/2013/07/down-rabbithole-through-looking-glass.html

[AllINeedIsCoffee]

1. Wow. nt

[flamingdem]

2. Zing. nt

[SidDithers]

3. DU rec...nt

Sid

[whatchamacallit]

6. I see you're recing-up another winner

Unfortunately, it's just a matter of time before they end up like your last brother-in-arms:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=profile&uid=280518&sub=trans

[struggle4progress]

15. If you consider the OP a troll, alert on it

[Cali_Democrat]

45. This OP isn't going anywhere

You wish

[In_The_Wind]

4. Kicked & Recommended

[Major Hogwash]

5. Well, slap my ass and call me "Alice"!!

Down the rabbit hole?
Nah, this forum is going down the sewey hole!!!

Don't be a quitter, post about Snowden being a hero at the Democratic Shitter!!

[Jamaal510]

26. ROFL

[rhett o rick]

7. Isnt this meta? Are you whining about DU? Maybe I missed the point. nm

[flamingdem]

8. I didn't write the article

And if the shoe fits
no need to meta it.

[rhett o rick]

30. Huh? You posted it means you indorse it. I wish the hosts would lock these whiny meta OPs. nm

[flamingdem]

31. If wishes were horses, beggars would ride

nt

[rhett o rick]

34. Tap dancing are we? nm

[Egalitarian Thug]

9. Looks like the establishment Democratic Party has a real problem on its hands.

So the question becomes, will they do anything about it or just let the republicans make further gains?

[Scurrilous]

10. LOL

[flamingdem]

11. What do they mean here by zygote

Edward Snowden and Glenn Greenwald aside (sorry Glenn, some of us just aren’t that into you), here’s the thing—you don’t have to love Obama, and you certainly should stand up for your beliefs and hold any and every administration’s feet to the fire on issues that matter. But I’m starting to get really depressed that not only are many of these “progressives” advocating throwing the baby out with the bathwater, but that their actions might lead to replacing the bathwater with toxic sludge and the baby with a zygote.




no understand

[Scurrilous]

12. The 'progressives' in question have (in their extremism) gone beyond baby/bathwater...

...and are at toxic sludge (much dirtier than bathwater)/zygote (a fertilized egg cell is much younger than a baby).

Or something...

[flamingdem]

21. Thanks

Creative license going on. Cliches deserve that now and then.

[Comrade Grumpy]

13. It's hard to whine and wank at the same time. Congratulations!

[Hekate]

14. The entire article at link makes for interesting reading

>sigh< Kinda like those "interesting times."

[Waiting For Everyman]

16. Gee, that's weird. I could've sworn I just saw the same thing about your side of the fence.

So, just to sum up, Assange is a rapist, Snowden's a narcissist and nut job, Greenwald's a pervert...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=3177422


So you have no problem with those slurs, but the ones you don't like are a big deal. Check.

See, the thing is, the last sentence in the OP tries to create the impression that nothing at all provocative was said to elicit such posts... But we all know that's a load of hooey, don't we now?

[zeemike]

20. This image comes to mind

[Waiting For Everyman]

25. Thx

for the !

[pscot]

17. Derp!

[last1standing]

18. This OP would have more credibility if you weren't constantly posting smears, yourself.

I'm not trying to put you down but you've been posting some ridiculously horrible OPs filled with lies, smears, misdirection and personal attacks against people you don't like in the last few weeks. Based on that, why should anyone take your complaints that an anonymous poster is saying mean things against someone you do like seriously?

Wouldn't it be better for everyone if we all posted with the same respect for others that we'd give to those we see in person?

[flamingdem]

19. I haven't smeared anyone

Just like you I have opinions, and I express them and sometimes post other people's opinions. Your perceptions seem to be distorted based on your biases. Otherwise you'd label a whole host of opinion posters at DU as posters of smears.

[last1standing]

22. A whole host of opinion posters at DU are posters of smears.

But you have been posting op/eds from thepeoplesview.net against Snowden and Greenwald that have been laces with everything I just mentioned, from homophobic innuendo to provably false claims. This isn't about whether I'm biased - of course I am. This is about posting smears against one party while complaining moments later about must less harsh comments against another.

If you want to have some semblance of credibility then you can't partake in the same behavior you're calling out.

[flamingdem]

24. That's ridiculous. thepeoplesview is a site run by democrats

Please re-read the article.

[last1standing]

29. I read two articles from that place after you posted them.

I think you're generally a very good poster with valid views and I respect your opinions, so please don't take this as a personal attack.

Thepeoplesview.net has taken on themselves to post invective that does nothing to inform or enlighten its readers when it comes to Snowden and Greenwald. Instead they are publishing lies and smears that have the effect of stirring up hatred. It doesn't matter if they're Democrats if that is how they behave. Those articles were nothing more than low quality smear jobs filled with lies, homophobia, personal attacks and misdirection.

Those people may vote Democratic but they are not helping to spread progressive values.

[BumRushDaShow]

23. This part nails it...

First of all, not everyone who is not in favor of sainthood/knighthood/Nobel and/or Pulitzer Prizes for Snowden and/or Greenwald is an Obamabot or a tyrant-supporting veghead or a sycophantic loon. Just because many of us aren’t willing to shampoo with kerosene and then light our hair on fire, it doesn’t mean that we are fake-progressives or secret teahadists or any of the other idiotic things they’ve been calling us lately.

Even if you think Barack HusseinLeninHitlerStalin Obama is absolutely personally responsible for every injustice ever perpetrated on mankind, in order to square that circle you have to ignore a whole lot of good things he’s been able to accomplish, even with the most intransigent, combative, do-nothing Congress in recent history.

What makes me really sad is that just when some people are finally actually waking up to the MAJOR difference between the Republicans and Democrats—seeing that Republicans hate women and will do everything in their power to keep them barefoot and pregnant…and that Republicans hate gay people…and minorities…and voting rights…and feeding people. Just when folks are finally getting really fired up about the injustices that occur and will continue to occur if the Republicans regain power nationally and continue their stranglehold on state governments…just when there’s a glimmer of hope for the House in 2014 and a strong feeling about 2016, these people are saying that they’ll never vote for a Democrat again or they’re just not going to vote period.

To them I say this: Every time you vote for a non-Democrat or don’t vote at all, a Louis Gohmert or a Ted Cruz or a Scott Walker or a Rick Scott or a John Kasich or a Rick Snyder or a Bob McDonnell gets elected. (Let us not forget that some serious non- and third-party voting during the Bush elections helped yield the long-term effects of Roberts and Alito on the Supreme Court.)

[flamingdem]

27. Absolutely, it's all about these issues

Anyone who can think critically will see the forest, not just the trees.

Thus, there's every reason to point to the politics of those people pushing Snowden in combination with attacks on the administration.

We might see those same people here in 2014 discouraging turnout in a repeat performnce!

[BumRushDaShow]

28. It's "Operation Chaos: Part Deux". nt

[rhett o rick]

33. There is a huge difference between "pushing" Snowden and defending him from the lynch mob.

Seems to me the open-minded people want to wait and see about Snowden. Maybe he is a crackpot, but what's the hurry for the authoritarian minions to lynch him? Obviously the authoritarians dont like him which automatically makes me defend him. But let's look at what he has pointed at. Ms. Plame, Mr. Wilson, Mr. Ellsberg, Pres CArther, 26 senators, Rep Grayson, and three other whistle-blowers, seem to think that maybe Snowden did us a favor.

You see the OligarchCabal that runs this place knew that if McDrain or Rmoney were to continue Bush's policies, the people would revolt. So they thought, if we let Obama be president, AND STILL RAN THE SAME F'IN INTELLIGENCE PROGRAMS AND THE SAME F'IN ECONOMIC PROGRAMS, there will be a lot of Democratic nitwits that will buy this shit hook line and sinker just because they have a Democratic president. Looks to me like they hit the nail on the head. Democrats defending Bush's intelligence programs and his economic programs.

Tell me do you trust Clapper, Mueller, Comey, Bernanke?? Did you trust them when they worked for Bush?

[flamingdem]

35. I don't think Snowden has the smarts or ethics of those you mention

As we can see he was pretty much utilized by Assange and Greenwald.
Now Greenwald has shot off his mouth saying that what Snowden has
could bring the USA to its knees.

These are not honest actors. Also, Snowden has praised Russia for its
commitment to freedom? He's not prepared for the role he's attempting
to fill. Time will tell us who he is, I agree that some issues raised are
valid of course, but it's being used to undermine, another faux scandal

[rhett o rick]

39. How ugly. Character assassination means you have nothing. How ugly. Not the actions of a

politically liberal person.

The issue is the government overstepping their bounds? That's a huge issue. Why would they? Because they can with a populace like yourself that is easily distracted by shinny objects. The issue is how badly have we let our government take control.

It must be nice to live in the denial bubble, every day singing, "Obama loves me, he wouldnt harm me. Praise, oh praise lord Obama."

I only ask that if you are a "politically liberal" person you show such by keeping an opened-mind.

[rhett o rick]

43. Your obsession with Snowden and Greenwald is pathetic. There are important things

happening in the world that apparently you want to avoid.

[flamingdem]

41. Smarts, ethics are now character assassination traits?

That's pretty mild.

derp

[rhett o rick]

44. So you side with Clapper, Mueller, Comey and the rest of the fucking Republicans.

Figure it out. It aint hard.

[Scurrilous]

40. Yep.

[Hekate]

32. KnR. nt

edited to detangle my mixed metaphors

[flamingdem]

37. Naturally I had to check that out!

[Bonobo]

36. You were already IN the Grand Duchy of Derp serving as both King and Jester. nt

[flamingdem]

38. Kewl. Lots more recs in the past hour

[SidDithers]

42. Kick...nt

Sid

[Starry Messenger]

47. The whole sidebar of that blog is Trig Palin denialism.

I'm not sure every guy with a blog needs to be le dernier cri on proper internet discourse.

[great white snark]

48. K&R for you managing to elicit the same responses mentioned in the article.

Paul/Paul 2016!