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elleng

(130,948 posts)
1. A DUer posted,
Sun Jul 14, 2013, 04:15 PM
Jul 2013

'The problem the DOJ would have in bringing civil rights violation against Z is being able to prove that this was racially motivated.'

and I responded: Difficult to PROVE, while not difficult to surmise.'

 

GiaGiovanni

(1,247 posts)
2. Like he's an expert on this :/
Sun Jul 14, 2013, 04:16 PM
Jul 2013

I don't think people are going to let this stand. There are far too many of us who think that Zimmerman's acquittal is a bad thing for the country, not just for the Martin family. There will be something to come out of this.

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
3. He is indeed a little shit but I doubt that this DOJ will touch this with a 10 ft pole
Sun Jul 14, 2013, 04:24 PM
Jul 2013

They'd have a much better chance of proving prosecutorial misconduct but I don't think Holder wants to stick his neck out very far even for that.

Attorney Generals in the 1960's would probably have found a way to pursue this but we've sunk a long way since then.

TheKentuckian

(25,026 posts)
9. Which cases do you think set up the best precedence for tackling this one from that era?
Sun Jul 14, 2013, 05:16 PM
Jul 2013

Seems far from textbook application with very little evidence and no direct witnesses. Is it impossible? Not much is in my view. Is it a reasonable chance? I haven't heard the argument, much less seen a solid case.

I get feeling something strongly, I've yet to see anything provable. "Knowing" and being able to demonstrate it beyond plausibility is another thing entirely.

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
10. Ya know that's an interesting question
Sun Jul 14, 2013, 05:35 PM
Jul 2013

I'm like you I have a gut feeling that the AG's of the JFK/LBJ era would not have taken this lying down but as far as specifics are concerned, I can't put my finger on any.

The 60's were a time of change for me. I began the decade as a community college dropout and ended it as an army veteran, a college graduate, a father of two and a gainfully employed construction manager. I was busy as hell and social consciousness and racial justice were all taking place somewhere off center stage to me.

So I need to go back and re educate myself as far as what relevance these old cases have to the killing of Trayvon Martin. That's gonna be my research project for the next week.

mainer

(12,022 posts)
5. Isn't this like the Goldmans successfully suing OJ?
Sun Jul 14, 2013, 04:34 PM
Jul 2013

Civil lawsuits have a much lower threshold of proof than do criminal cases.

 

LaydeeBug

(10,291 posts)
8. No. The Martins can sue Zimmerman and will most likely win, but I STRONGLY doubt
Sun Jul 14, 2013, 04:40 PM
Jul 2013

the Justice Dept will go after him.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
7. I'd love to get him on anything - even child abuse - but feds already said they found no evidence.
Sun Jul 14, 2013, 04:39 PM
Jul 2013

We all know damn well he profiled the kid and murdered him, but they'll never prove it.

I think there is still perjury from pre-trial stuff, and maybe tax evasion some way.

But, the little POS is free. We'd do better working to prevent this kind of thing in future.
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