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Amy Holmes an African American Conservative female is disgusted at the acquittal of Zimmerman (Original Post) bigdarryl Jul 2013 OP
I saw that fredamae Jul 2013 #1
I was shocked too JustAnotherGen Jul 2013 #2
She carries water for the Republican Party often on TV. protect our future Jul 2013 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Jul 2013 #4
She was almost in tears when I saw her. nt woolldog Jul 2013 #11
Where did you see her? Thanks. n/t OneGrassRoot Jul 2013 #29
On one of the msnbc shows this morning. nt woolldog Jul 2013 #30
Guess it proves that for even the most conservative of us, cyndensco Jul 2013 #5
We'll see how quickly she's kissing back up to the right wingers who are much to blame for this. Hoyt Jul 2013 #6
She makes me sick Bill Maher totally called her disconnectness out trublu992 Jul 2013 #7
I was surprised by that also. kentuck Jul 2013 #8
Hopefull Amy Holmes Has Seen The Light iloveObama12 Jul 2013 #9
no burnodo Jul 2013 #17
Where? When? What did alsame Jul 2013 #10
Conservatives should be worried at killers going free muriel_volestrangler Jul 2013 #12
You forgot your thousand sarcasm tags lame54 Jul 2013 #14
That's not what law and order means to conservatives. sadbear Jul 2013 #15
Conservatives on British sites are saying it should have been a manslaughter verdict (nt) muriel_volestrangler Jul 2013 #16
British Conservatives are more like Democrats , they would be considered liberal by US Conservatives JI7 Jul 2013 #20
Any woman, be she an African-American, Caucasian, Oriental, Native-American, or otherwise indepat Jul 2013 #13
Apparently, NOT any woman because 6 women ruled that zimpy the chimp WAS NOT GUILTY! Ecumenist Jul 2013 #33
Looks like the knife twisted a little too much nt MrScorpio Jul 2013 #18
is there is a link to this or can someone post what she said ? JI7 Jul 2013 #19
Oh, black people get this in a way non-blacks don't. Even RW Crazy Allen West got it. nt arely staircase Jul 2013 #21
Link to what Allen West said about this? woolldog Jul 2013 #22
I just Googled and found this. It is rather shocking... OneGrassRoot Jul 2013 #23
Shocker. woolldog Jul 2013 #25
doesn't he work for Fox News now, i don'tthink it would be acceptable for him JI7 Jul 2013 #28
whoa - who'da thought CitizenLeft Jul 2013 #31
Where did you see her...which show...when? Thanks. n/t OneGrassRoot Jul 2013 #24
A Beck cultist at that. Dawson Leery Jul 2013 #26
She should be upset, everyone should. Raffi Ella Jul 2013 #27
What's the surprise??? onpatrol98 Jul 2013 #32
She has towed the Republican line on every issue since Clinton Boomerproud Jul 2013 #34

Response to bigdarryl (Original post)

cyndensco

(1,697 posts)
5. Guess it proves that for even the most conservative of us,
Sun Jul 14, 2013, 04:13 PM
Jul 2013

racial identity sometimes trumps politics.

Then again, there is always clarence thomas..... he's probably having a grand old day.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
6. We'll see how quickly she's kissing back up to the right wingers who are much to blame for this.
Sun Jul 14, 2013, 04:14 PM
Jul 2013

trublu992

(489 posts)
7. She makes me sick Bill Maher totally called her disconnectness out
Sun Jul 14, 2013, 04:14 PM
Jul 2013

I'm shocked she even understands what happened

muriel_volestrangler

(101,321 posts)
12. Conservatives should be worried at killers going free
Sun Jul 14, 2013, 05:39 PM
Jul 2013

This is a matter of law and order - a classic conservative concern.

sadbear

(4,340 posts)
15. That's not what law and order means to conservatives.
Sun Jul 14, 2013, 05:45 PM
Jul 2013

This verdict is absolutely consistent with their notion of law and order.

indepat

(20,899 posts)
13. Any woman, be she an African-American, Caucasian, Oriental, Native-American, or otherwise
Sun Jul 14, 2013, 05:42 PM
Jul 2013

who is also a conservative espousing the agenda the Republicans in Congress do almost to a person, is wholly fuc*ed-up in head big-time imo. Excuse me for telling it like it is, but there it is.

Ecumenist

(6,086 posts)
33. Apparently, NOT any woman because 6 women ruled that zimpy the chimp WAS NOT GUILTY!
Sun Jul 14, 2013, 08:43 PM
Jul 2013

NOT ALL WOMEN have the sense God gave a goat.

JI7

(89,251 posts)
19. is there is a link to this or can someone post what she said ?
Sun Jul 14, 2013, 07:22 PM
Jul 2013

i had the tv on mute since i didn't feel like listening and i thought she would defend zimmerman.

but she did have a certain sad look on her face.

OneGrassRoot

(22,920 posts)
23. I just Googled and found this. It is rather shocking...
Sun Jul 14, 2013, 07:31 PM
Jul 2013
http://frontpagemag.com/2013/frontpagemag-com/allen-west-on-goerge-zimmerman-and-trayvon-martin/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=allen-west-on-goerge-zimmerman-and-trayvon-martin

Allegedly from West's FB page in March of 2012:

I have sat back and allowed myself time to assess the current episode revealing itself in Sanford, Florida involving the shooting of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin. First of all, if all that has been reported is accurate, the Sanford Police Chief should be relieved of his duties due to what appears to be a mishandling of this shooting in its early stages. The US Navy SEALS identified Osama Bin Laden within hours, while this young man laid on a morgue slab for three days. The shooter, Mr Zimmerman, should have been held in custody and certainly should not be walking free, still having a concealed weapons carry permit. From my reading, it seems this young man was pursued and there was no probable cause to engage him, certainly not pursue and shoot him….against the direction of the 911 responder. Let’s all be appalled at this instance not because of race, but because a young American man has lost his life, seemingly, for no reason. I have signed a letter supporting a DOJ investigation. I am not heading to Sanford to shout and scream, because we need the responsible entities and agencies to handle this situation from this point without media bias or undue political influences. This is an outrage.



I haven't seen if he has made a comment since the verdict.

JI7

(89,251 posts)
28. doesn't he work for Fox News now, i don'tthink it would be acceptable for him
Sun Jul 14, 2013, 08:35 PM
Jul 2013

to say what he did before now.

Dawson Leery

(19,348 posts)
26. A Beck cultist at that.
Sun Jul 14, 2013, 07:51 PM
Jul 2013

Last edited Sun Jul 14, 2013, 08:59 PM - Edit history (1)

Mike Steele is angered by this acquittal too.

Many conservative black's understand the plight of African Americans. Their solutions are different from those of liberals.

Raffi Ella

(4,465 posts)
27. She should be upset, everyone should.
Sun Jul 14, 2013, 08:28 PM
Jul 2013

It's wrong on the most basic level what happened to Trayvon, everyone can feel it. Even crazy right wingers who otherwise don't feel or get what the Party they're backing is really about.


This is about gun violence not the second amendment. This is about gun control, sane laws, not taking away your guns. This is about CHILDREN being gunned down all over the country, black boys not being safe to walk the streets because any and everyone is allowed to have a gun - even crazy bastards that have had run ins with the law and who obviously displayed irrationality and a flagrant disregard for the law when he was told NOT to follow Trayvon. Shot him dead and they gave.him.back.that.very.gun. These crazy bastards can pretend that's ok all they want to but in their guts they know it's not. And if they DO think that's ok then it's because THEY would not be a target to a Zimmerman-

Trayvon Martin was no different than any other kid who walked to the store to get some candy, except that he was black and had the misfortune of crossing paths with a lunatic who had a gun and wasn't afraid to use it. ANY body would have defended themselves against a creepy ass stalker like Zimmerman. Trayvon defended himself. Now he is dead and his killer walked free.

Trayvon Martin was a defenseless INNOCENT kid: If it's OK to murder Trayvon then nothing is sacred. Nothing.

She should be upset. All sane people should be upset.

onpatrol98

(1,989 posts)
32. What's the surprise???
Sun Jul 14, 2013, 08:42 PM
Jul 2013

She's a black woman who happens to be a republican...big whoop. She didn't lose her ability to understand the plight of black youth in America. Or, at least I hope she didn't. She has a different political perspective.

Have we been listening to some of the voices of DU on the Trayvon Martin case? There are people absolutely convinced that allowing this killer go free was the right and just thing to do.

I have no doubt I could sit down with Amy Holmes and find places to find agreement OUTSIDE of politics. I can only think of one or two black conservatives that I know personally. One typically votes republican, but voted for Barack Obama for President. The other just sounds very conservative. But, he also voted for President Obama. But cases like this Trayvon Martin trial pull us together and remind us that the world has a bulls eye on our children.

If given a choice between Amy Holmes and the tiny group of DUers that have been grave dancing over this acquittal, I'd rather talk to Amy Holmes about this case. Republican or not. I mean some of the responses have been enough to make you throw up.

I tend to spend more time with people who profess to be progressive. Not conservatives. And, still, there were those trying to rationalize...you know them...

"Well, we just don't know what happen. Yes, yes, it's such a tragedy. But, we'll never know." That's code for ... it's still not worth sending someone to jail over it.

They don't see Trayvon as a child. And, any benefit of the doubt, well...that's reserved for the non-responsible, gun owner, that stalked and killed the unarmed teenager.

We had a case not too long ago, where a young man KILLED HIMSELF and they wanted to put his antagonist and bully in the electric chair or give him life in prison.

But, well...Trayvon...he just isn't worth breaking a sweat over by some. True, I don't expect republicans to care. But, when they do, I take notice. But, I also expect democrats to care...and when they don't, I take notice.

Boomerproud

(7,954 posts)
34. She has towed the Republican line on every issue since Clinton
Sun Jul 14, 2013, 09:36 PM
Jul 2013

I believe she was communications for some high-ranking Repub back in the day, so yes this is the first time she has strayed from the fold. I didn't see it so I don't know if DUers are making a bigger deal of it than it really was so I'll withhold my judgement.

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