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Catherina

(35,568 posts)
Sun Jul 14, 2013, 12:05 PM Jul 2013

U.S. Shelters Bolivia Ex-President From Genocide Charges As Evo Morales Offers Snowden Asylum

U.S. Shelters Bolivia Ex-President From Genocide Charges As Evo Morales Offers Snowden Asylum

Posted: 07/13/2013 8:20 am EDT


Residents from El Alto protest in front of the U.S. embassy in La Paz on Oct. 17, 2012, to demand the extradition of Bolivian former president Gonzalo Sanchez de Lozada (poster), now in exile in the United States

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Gonzalo Sánchez de Lozada, president of Bolivia from 2002 to 2003, was a free-market reformer and U.S. ally. He fled his country after protests to his plans to route natural gas through neighboring Chile toppled his government in 2003 -- an episode known in Bolivia as the “Gas War.” He now faces charges of genocide in Bolivia for allegedly ordering the military to fire on protesters in 2003, killing more than 60 people, as well as a civil lawsuit in the U.S. brought by relatives of those who died. Sánchez de Lozada, now living in the U.S., is being sheltered from extradition back to Bolivia.

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“It’s an absurd expectation that Bolivia would extradite Snowden if he ever arrived there with this kind of precedent,” Kathyrn Ledebur, director of the Cochabamba-based Andean Information Network, told The Huffington Post. “It’s kind of this elephant on the table that they’re pretending doesn’t exist, but is a huge problem.”

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Sánchez de Lozada’s critics viewed him as out of touch. A similar conflict, known as the “Water War,” had broken out in 2000, when the U.S. contractor Bechtel Corp. bought the local water system in the city of Cochabamba, then raised rates by as much as 400 percent.

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The U.S.-based Center for Constitutional Rights brought new allegations in an amended complaint last month, saying the former Bolivian president and his defense minister, José Carlos Sánchez Berzaín, decided during meetings before they took office to use lethal force against civilians who protested their economic projects. Based in part on the experience of the Water War, they anticipated they might have to kill as many as 3,000 civilians to overcome protests to routing natural gas through Chile, according to the filing.

“They personally ordered the Armed Forces to enter Bolivian towns and villages as if they were attacking a foreign invader,” the complaint says. “The Armed Forces employed tactics of war, including deploying military sharpshooters armed with high-powered rifles who shot into houses and chased and shot unarmed villagers as they fled through fields into the mountains.”
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/13/us-bolivia-president-snowden_n_3587654.html?utm_hp_ref=world&ir=World


Why look! There's Bechtel again! The TPP assholes. And a US-raise, US-installed, US-backed President who exploited people, started *globalizing* Bolivia and then when the people rose up against him, looted the Bolivian Treasury and fled to the US with the goods where he's lived in peace for years. And the US is as TONE DEAF, or pretends to be, as its Ostrich defense line that tries to hide and distort everything to keep people in ignorance. 3 months ago, things were bad enough and Evo Morales responds to John Kerry: Never Again Will We Be Your Backyard. Instead of processing that, we just continue making matters worse.

At what price profit for the 1%?
At what price our ignorance and apathy about our dirty deeds in Latin America?


If you have time, here's a fascinating documentary about the DLC running that criminal's presidential campaign in Bolivia.


Published on Nov 14, 2012

Our Brand Is Crisis is a 2005 documentary film by Rachel Boynton on American political campaign marketing tactics by Greenberg Carville Shrum in the 2002 Bolivian presidential election. The election saw Gonzalo Sánchez de Lozada elected President of Bolivia ahead of Evo Morales.
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U.S. Shelters Bolivia Ex-President From Genocide Charges As Evo Morales Offers Snowden Asylum (Original Post) Catherina Jul 2013 OP
K&R nt Zorra Jul 2013 #1
Kick.... socialist_n_TN Jul 2013 #2
A steelworker(say) in Korea needs to know he/she has more in common with a steelworker byeya Jul 2013 #10
It is an entirely different situation. Warren Stupidity Jul 2013 #3
+1,000 djean111 Jul 2013 #4
Same as Luis Posada Carriles Catherina Jul 2013 #6
It IS different. dairydog91 Jul 2013 #7
+1 leftstreet Jul 2013 #9
+ + byeya Jul 2013 #11
That's the all-important difference n/t Catherina Jul 2013 #17
K&R Cleita Jul 2013 #5
we should make a trade nt arely staircase Jul 2013 #8
I guess this is Obama's fault too? Isn't everything? nt kelliekat44 Jul 2013 #12
He could honor extradition of a war criminal, but it's not his fault if he won't Dragonfli Jul 2013 #14
And a really great retirement package! Warren Stupidity Jul 2013 #26
K&R Luminous Animal Jul 2013 #13
K&R cantbeserious Jul 2013 #15
unreal questionseverything Jul 2013 #16
Again I ask. What makes Snowden think they won't do a prisoner exchange? Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2013 #18
Not for the first time. Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2013 #19
+1000 n/t Catherina Jul 2013 #28
This story needs sunlight... and wide distribution/discussion. Faryn Balyncd Jul 2013 #20
What do you expect? BillyRibs Jul 2013 #21
Black October: Victims of a Bolivian massacre seek justice in Miami Judi Lynn Jul 2013 #22
What irony! No surprise USA shelters human rights criminals given their human rights record. Coyotl Jul 2013 #23
K&R SaveOurDemocracy Jul 2013 #24
K & R. n/t Judi Lynn Jul 2013 #25
Bookmarked felix_numinous Jul 2013 #27
I think this case is underscoring some of the tension re: Snowden. DirkGently Jul 2013 #29
Puro BFEE Octafish Jul 2013 #30
In a heartbeat. Thanks for adding that. How soon we forget n/t Catherina Jul 2013 #32
Well sure, but that's totally different. He and all the others we are shielding from justice Egalitarian Thug Jul 2013 #31
 

byeya

(2,842 posts)
10. A steelworker(say) in Korea needs to know he/she has more in common with a steelworker
Sun Jul 14, 2013, 12:44 PM
Jul 2013

in Brasil than in the ruling class in Korea. Internationalism of labor is the best why out of our predictament in my opinion.



(Sorry but I can't help myself, and yes, I am one: "Dyslexics of the World: Untie!&quot
That's the only time I'll say it here I promise.

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
3. It is an entirely different situation.
Sun Jul 14, 2013, 12:31 PM
Jul 2013

Sánchez de Lozada is charged with crimes against humanity, trifling offenses of an obvious political nature, similar to blowing up airplanes of nations we don't like so much, so of course he should be sheltered. Snowden on the other hand has been charged with theft of government property and willful communication of classified communications intelligence to an unauthorized person, a crime so heinous that no government on earth should offer him sanctuary.

I'd offer up a sacrificial sarcasm token but the 'splaining will occur and Poe's law is operative.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
4. +1,000
Sun Jul 14, 2013, 12:34 PM
Jul 2013

And - my, don't we have something to look forward to - the TPP!!!!!
My plan is just to trash any apologist threads for that one, less stressful.

Catherina

(35,568 posts)
6. Same as Luis Posada Carriles
Sun Jul 14, 2013, 12:38 PM
Jul 2013

Same as Luis Posada Carriles, our very own CIA-trained terrorist who murdered uncounted numbers of innocent people and blew up an airliner but lives in luxury in Miami, protected by our government.

And all those graduates of School of the Americas...

All this posturing is for domestic consumption. No one, no one except the Ostrich brigade can take us seriously right now.

dairydog91

(951 posts)
7. It IS different.
Sun Jul 14, 2013, 12:40 PM
Jul 2013

de Lozada was HELPING American companies, while Snowden EMBARASSED American companies and potentially put lucrative, ludicrously over-budget contracts at risk.

Dragonfli

(10,622 posts)
14. He could honor extradition of a war criminal, but it's not his fault if he won't
Sun Jul 14, 2013, 01:47 PM
Jul 2013

after all, he is just a figure head of state, like the Queen of England.

He is just there for the tourists

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
19. Not for the first time.
Sun Jul 14, 2013, 02:23 PM
Jul 2013
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2010/nov/15/secondworldwar-international-criminal-justice

If nothing else, the revelations in Sunday's front-page story in the New York Times on the Justice Department's continued refusal since 2006 to make public a report summarising the efforts of its Nazi-hunting Office of Special Investigations, clearly shows that even more than 65 years after the end of the second world war, Nazi crimes and the efforts to bring Holocaust perpetrators to justice are still a source of controversy and public interest. While there is little new information in the revelations, the more interesting aspects are indeed infuriating and raise serious questions. Though the themes are familiar, the ethical compromises involved in the US policy in using former high-ranking Nazi officials as informants and in putting to work Nazi scientists for the American space programme or other classified military projects, as well the sometimes-flawed implementation of government efforts to punish such individuals, are worth re-examining.

The United States' record on this issue can basically be divided into four periods. During the first, which lasted from the end of the war in 1945 until approximately 1948, the US government played a major role in the prosecution of senior Nazi officials at the Nuremburg trials and of other criminals in additional proceedings, some of which were held in former concentration camps. During the second period, from 1948 until approximately 1953, the exact opposite happened. With the cold war already underway, the US lost interest in actively pursuing Nazi war criminals, preferring to build up West Germany as a bulwark against communism, and therefore adopting a far more lenient attitude toward former Nazis, some of whom were enlisted as intelligence sources or rocket scientists – their criminal Nazi pasts ignored. Equally appalling was the fact that, during these years, US immigration authorities allowed entry to the United States as refugees to thousands of the worst of Hitler's east European henchman.

Judi Lynn

(160,542 posts)
22. Black October: Victims of a Bolivian massacre seek justice in Miami
Sun Jul 14, 2013, 03:12 PM
Jul 2013

Last edited Mon Jul 15, 2013, 05:03 AM - Edit history (1)

This is helpful background on Goni's hideous massacre:


Black October

Victims of a Bolivian massacre seek justice in Miami.

By Tim Elfrink

published: December 18, 2008





~snip~
Natural gas deposits have been discovered in Bolivia, and tensions between the mostly white ruling class and indigenous leaders over this national treasure have simmered for weeks. Confrontations between protesters and the nation's military are erupting in violence, and word has just reached the village that the army is now marching toward Warisata to kill its men.

Marlene's mother tells the girl to stay calm. Her father, who has fled to the dun-colored hills to hide, will be back soon, she promises. But Marlene's curiosity cannot be contained. It keeps her up late at night studying by candlelight, dreaming of a life this impoverished village cannot offer. And it keeps her standing at the window, looking toward the mountains where her father has gone, into the dusky darkness.

Suddenly the sound of gunshots peppers the evening air. Marlene's mother tells her to step back from the window, but before the girl can move, a sharp crack rattles the small room. Glass sprinkles the ground. Marlene sucks in her breath and stumbles backward into her mother's arms.

"Tayca," Marlene says, gasping the Aymara word for mother.

"Jani!" her mother yells — no! — holding Marlene tightly as the girl collapses onto the bed, her blood soaking the thick strands of alpaca wool. A single bullet has lanced straight through her chest, crossed the tiny room, and lodged in the dusty brick wall.

Marlene Rojas Mamani dies without another word.

~snip~
Although the case has generated scant interest in Miami, it is being closely watched in La Paz and Washington. Sánchez de Lozada was among the staunchest of U.S. allies in Latin America, helping to turn Bolivia into a test lab for America's ideas on how to fix the region's economies. That he and his former defense minister are here today is an embarrassment, to say the least, to both the Bush and Clinton administrations, which is perhaps the reason the pair is represented by none other than Greg Craig, whom President-Elect Barack Obama has already named his White House chief counsel.

Of course, there is another side of the story. To hear Sánchez de Lozada tell it, the real culprit of Black October is none other than Evo Morales, the current president of Bolivia. It was Morales, Sánchez de Lozada says, who whipped the indigenous protesters into a frenzy over government plans to privatize gas drilling and exportation, leading groups that blocked roads and sparked bloody confrontations with the military. A soldier was the first casualty in the conflict, Sánchez de Lozada's legal team maintains; the army merely tried to keep chaos at bay in their homeland, they say.

More:
http://www.miaminewtimes.com/content/printVersion/1280808/

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Trial of Former Bolivian President Sánchez de Lozada and His Accomplices for the Massacres of 2003

~snip~
On the morning of October 15, 2003, while the demonstrations that two days later would take down a president spread through La Paz and El Alto, the mineworkers’ leaders of Oruro province decided to march to the capital to support the rebels. In the La Salvadora mine, a 36-year-old woman, widow, and mother of six children between the ages of two and twelve, joined the miners’ contingent. Filomena León, who months later would tell her story before the cameras of Verónica Auza and Claudia Espinoza, was among the people who arrived that morning in the town of Patacamaya, a little more than 100 kilometers (60 miles) from La Paz.

“I don’t know how they surprised us. We were getting out of the car peacefully to drink some tea.”

The soldiers had orders to stop the caravan, and held back the miners with gunshots. First, they burst the tires on the miners’ trucks and seized their few belongings, then they attacked the miners, who, armed with sticks of dynamite, resisted the offensive. The palliri (woman miner) was among those injured in the clash. “I felt the bullet, just the bullet. I haven’t risen since. I was ahead of the soldiers and the bullet entered me from behind. I don’t remember anything else.” The high caliber projectile embedded itself in Filomena’s spinal cord. For months, in at least two public hospitals, the brave woman slowly lost her health and will to live; she was paralyzed, and her younger children couldn’t even recognize her.

On April 30, nearly six months after being shot, Filomena León died of a lethal infection at the La Paz Clinic Hospital, according to the Gas War Memorial Testimony – a book put together by Auza and Espinoza to record the dozens of deaths, the hundreds of wounded and mutilated, that were the high price paid by the Bolivian insurrection last year. In the last weeks of her life, one could see a fist-sized hole in her back. Filomena’s sweet voice and black, abundant braids left this land forever.
The same happened to Teodocia Morales Mamani (who was pregnant), Marcelo Chambi Mollinedo, Ramiro Vargas Astilla, and many other Alteños (from the city of El Alto), Aymara peasant-farmers, children and grandparents, men and women. And today, despite the Bolivian National Congress having authorized their prosecution, those responsible for so much pain go unpunished.

The Death Sentence

In a story of courage and strength, Bolivia’s poor, most importantly its Aymara indigenous population, defended their natural gas in September and October of last year, blockading highways and paralyzing El Alto and La Paz. Gonzalo Sánchez de Lozada, serving his second term as president, hoped to export this valuable natural resource to the United States through Chilean ports, against the will of the people. During the conflict, soldiers and police constantly fired on people armed only with sticks, stones, and occasionally dynamite. As in the case of the Zapatistas in Chiapas, Mexico, or of the insurrection in Argentina in 2001, the repressive forces of the Bolivian state had “orders from above”; a license to kill.

More:
http://www.narconews.com/Issue35/article1138.html

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Thank you, Catherina. This history MUST be opened and shown to the citizens of the U.S. whose politicians and their support community have been calling the SHOTS against the multitudes of the poor and defenseless of the Americas.

DirkGently

(12,151 posts)
29. I think this case is underscoring some of the tension re: Snowden.
Sun Jul 14, 2013, 06:53 PM
Jul 2013

We are refusing to extradite someone Bolivia considers a genocidal war criminal. A person who followed the "Chicago School" pushed by the CIA all over South America for decades.

Kind of reminds me when we pretended those Iranian students just up and imprisoned our embassy workers, without a mention of how we empowered, protected, and absconded with the Shah, by most accounts a brutal dictator.

Seems there's often more history and politicking going on than we discuss openly.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
30. Puro BFEE
Sun Jul 14, 2013, 07:20 PM
Jul 2013
Nearly 90 killed by troops

Bush administration backs massacres in Bolivia


By Bill Vann
WSWS.org, 17 October 2003

With at least 86 workers, peasants and students confirmed killed by army and police bullets and hundreds more wounded during the last three weeks of mass protests, the Bush administration has solidarized itself fully with the repressive regime of President Gonzalo Sanchez de Lozada.

There is also mounting evidence that the CIA and US military are playing a direct role in organizing the bloodbath that has been unleashed against Bolivia’s rebellious population.

“The American people and their government support Bolivia’s democratically elected president,” the US State Department declared in the aftermath of last Sunday’s massacre of poor and indigenous residents of El Alto, the sprawling industrial suburb of La Paz that has been the center of the strike and protest movement. Adopting a threatening tone toward the popular revolt, it warned that Washington “will not tolerate any interruption of the constitutional order in Bolivia, nor will it support a regime that results from undemocratic means.”

The statement was seconded by the US Embassy in La Paz, which declared its “full support for this constitutionally and democratically elected government. This government should not be replaced by one imposed by criminal violence.” It added that “sticks and stones are not a form of peaceful protest, nor is the burning of vehicles or businesses.” Washington had no such words of condemnation, however, for the machine-gunning of unarmed demonstrators, including a five-year-old child, last weekend.

Soldiers moved into the shantytown neighborhoods of El Alto on Sunday and Monday with shoot-to-kill orders. Their objective was to break the siege that protesters had imposed on the capital city of La Paz as part of a nationwide protest over the government’s plan to sell off Bolivia’s natural gas to a consortium of energy multinationals seeking to export the fuel to California and Mexico. Opponents of the government have charged that, while the gas plan will yield ample profits for the foreign firms and their Bolivian partners, it will produce scant public revenues.

The fight against the gas deal has awakened mass resentment against the deepening poverty and social polarization produced by two decades of International Monetary Fund-dictated “free market reforms.” Large sections of the Bolivian working class, including tin miners and public sector workers, have seen their jobs wiped out by the wave of privatizations and budget-cutting that has swept the country. At least 60 percent of the population subsists on $2 a day or less.

The government’s attempt to drown the mass protests in blood has for the moment produced the opposite effect. The killings in El Alto were answered Monday by a mass protest in La Paz in which another 11 people were killed. The capital remains completely paralyzed by a general strike, with banks, businesses and public offices closed and no vehicles moving on the streets.

CONTINUED...

http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2003/10/boli-o17.html

Think Washington would mess with this guy's plane?


 

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
31. Well sure, but that's totally different. He and all the others we are shielding from justice
Sun Jul 14, 2013, 08:04 PM
Jul 2013

committed inconsequential crimes like mass-murder on the behalf of our corporate overlords.

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