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DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
Sun Jul 14, 2013, 10:51 AM Jul 2013

I hope those who predicted black folks will riot take a good look in the mirror


Here's a thread I started before the verdict.


Central Florida DUERS check in. And Observations about Sanford.

Beside finding the suggestion that African Americans in Sanford will riot if there is an unfavorable outcome in the Zimmerman trial racist I also find it implausible for logistical reasons.

Sanford is a deeply segregated city. The east side (Midway) is almost exclusively African American, the middle and older part is predominately caucasian, and the west side looks like any suburb with a mixture of races that looks like the rest of America. The Sanford downtown is about two square miles with the tallest building being about four stories.

There's nothing there.

I lived in that general area almost my entire life before moving to L A last April. Before I moved I saw a lot of young people, of all colors, wearing hoodies with their hood up in a obvious show of solidarity with the martyred Trayvon Martin.

Peaceful protests, yes... Riots, I don't see em..





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I hope those who predicted black folks will riot take a good look in the mirror (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2013 OP
I would not blame the African Community for rioting if they chose to do so. Cooley Hurd Jul 2013 #1
i blame anyone for attacking an innocent stranger for something someone else did markiv Jul 2013 #8
That's exactly what happened to Trayvon. Cooley Hurd Jul 2013 #14
exactly markiv Jul 2013 #15
I never believed there would be riots, premium Jul 2013 #2
Oakland is a tinderbox of violent riots waiting to happen kimbutgar Jul 2013 #5
Very true. premium Jul 2013 #6
Fernley? Pelican Jul 2013 #10
Tonopah. nt. premium Jul 2013 #11
Used to stop at the airport there and get breakfast as a kid... Pelican Jul 2013 #12
It's not a bad little town as towns go, premium Jul 2013 #13
My dad was from Ely (well actually Baker/Snake Valley). kestrel91316 Jul 2013 #16
Ely, NV. premium Jul 2013 #20
They had their hands full over by GBNP again a few kestrel91316 Jul 2013 #24
I'm here in DC, and I apologize Faygo Kid Jul 2013 #3
I don't think there will be riots, but there will be a wave of folks legally arming themselves. HipChick Jul 2013 #4
Some of the deep ironies revealed by this case... Eleanors38 Jul 2013 #7
Strange how the righteous ennoble a people, race or tribe Eleanors38 Jul 2013 #9
K & R Scurrilous Jul 2013 #17
I would appreciate it if they apologize for their racist rantings. I won't hold my breath, though. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2013 #18
People who thought that think the same way as Zimmerman yardwork Jul 2013 #19
OK so I know pipi_k Jul 2013 #21
They thought it would be riots mstinamotorcity2 Jul 2013 #22
Post removed Post removed Jul 2013 #23
"Hunting season on whites" fishwax Jul 2013 #25
I'm more afraid of the racists... liberalmuse Jul 2013 #26
 

Cooley Hurd

(26,877 posts)
1. I would not blame the African Community for rioting if they chose to do so.
Sun Jul 14, 2013, 10:53 AM
Jul 2013

The message of the verdict from last night is that lynching (with a firearm) is back in vogue.

 

markiv

(1,489 posts)
8. i blame anyone for attacking an innocent stranger for something someone else did
Sun Jul 14, 2013, 11:41 AM
Jul 2013

harming your own neighborhood acomplishes nothing

it sure as heck doesnt fight 'negative stereotypes'

 

Cooley Hurd

(26,877 posts)
14. That's exactly what happened to Trayvon.
Sun Jul 14, 2013, 12:41 PM
Jul 2013

George Zimmerman "attacking an innocent stranger for something someone else did".

 

premium

(3,731 posts)
2. I never believed there would be riots,
Sun Jul 14, 2013, 10:54 AM
Jul 2013

peaceful protests? Yes, riots? No.
The only place there was violence was in 3 CA cities, one of them being Oakland.

This whole meme about riots if Zimmerman was acquitted was nothing more than racial profiling IMO.

kimbutgar

(21,153 posts)
5. Oakland is a tinderbox of violent riots waiting to happen
Sun Jul 14, 2013, 11:12 AM
Jul 2013

People are angry and don't forget the Oscar Grant movie opened this weekend. Those riots were terrible.

 

premium

(3,731 posts)
6. Very true.
Sun Jul 14, 2013, 11:15 AM
Jul 2013

The funny thing is that I live in a very red town in Nevada and all my close friends are as RW as you can get, but everyone of them to a person were outraged at this verdict, they all thought that at the very least, Zimmerman was guilty of Manslaughter.

 

premium

(3,731 posts)
13. It's not a bad little town as towns go,
Sun Jul 14, 2013, 12:10 PM
Jul 2013

People are very friendly, everyone knows everyone else.
My wife and I are thinking about moving back to the place of my birth next year, Lake Topaz, NV, on U.S. 395 at the CA/NV border, at the foot of the Eastern Sierra Nevada mountain range.



We own a home there.

 

premium

(3,731 posts)
20. Ely, NV.
Sun Jul 14, 2013, 01:00 PM
Jul 2013

Home of the nations only ISO Class 1 All Volunteer Fire Department. A first class F.D. from everything I've heard.

Faygo Kid

(21,478 posts)
3. I'm here in DC, and I apologize
Sun Jul 14, 2013, 10:57 AM
Jul 2013

Yes, I thought there would be violence. I was in Detroit in 1967, and I remember.

But I think we are all beaten down so far now that we are all just trying to hang on. I was wrong to project the past onto the present.

HipChick

(25,485 posts)
4. I don't think there will be riots, but there will be a wave of folks legally arming themselves.
Sun Jul 14, 2013, 11:01 AM
Jul 2013

Especially when there is no justice and now law to protect you

 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
7. Some of the deep ironies revealed by this case...
Sun Jul 14, 2013, 11:37 AM
Jul 2013

Most of the gun control laws in extant (and many which are no longer) were/are fundamentally Jim Crow laws designed to keep African-Americans from obtaining firearms. An excellent summary of the history of these laws was submitted in a friend-of-the-court in the SCOTUS's Heller decision by a group called Georgiacarry.org. Can you imagine an organization, primarily white, revealing the racist policies & laws of their collective ancestors? And in support of the (primarily) black citizens of D.C.?

When the 1968 Gun Control Act was passed, a pro-control advocate remarked that the main motivation was to keep guns out of the hands of blacks, but without interfering with Others' ability to obtain them. NYC's century-old Sullivan Laws were based on anti-Italian sentiment in full sway at the time. And Chicago? Well, I got a post hidden for reporting the obvious.

The courts have always held that the police are charged with investigating crimes, apprehending suspects, and presenting evidence before prosecutors. They are NOT charged with protecting citizens from crime, though in rare occasions they have come across crimes-in-progress and have thwarted those.

Now, all law-abiding citizens can obtain firearms in most states and locales -- except those few wherein an old bird has relocated.

 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
9. Strange how the righteous ennoble a people, race or tribe
Sun Jul 14, 2013, 11:49 AM
Jul 2013

with a mythology of all-powerful righteousness and then wish they would pour into the streets and do the dirty work for them.

Thanks for the post.

yardwork

(61,622 posts)
19. People who thought that think the same way as Zimmerman
Sun Jul 14, 2013, 12:58 PM
Jul 2013

They think that all black people are violent. I hope that they are rethinking their biases today.

pipi_k

(21,020 posts)
21. OK so I know
Sun Jul 14, 2013, 01:04 PM
Jul 2013

I've mentioned in the past about how often the term "racist" gets tossed around here, but this, IMO, is a good example of real racism.

People assuming that blacks will riot.

Because....why?

Do people really think blacks are that uncivilized?

Oh, the irony...

They call others "racists", yet presume that blacks all over the country will riot in frightening numbers.

oy...



mstinamotorcity2

(1,451 posts)
22. They thought it would be riots
Sun Jul 14, 2013, 01:06 PM
Jul 2013

because the fix was in!!!!!It was code for he is getting off so you people don't want no more trouble.

Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

liberalmuse

(18,672 posts)
26. I'm more afraid of the racists...
Sun Jul 14, 2013, 04:49 PM
Jul 2013

than the "riots" people of their ilk are predicting. To be honest, I'm horrified at what I'm seeing now, because I was taught that racism was vile. It appeared that people were evolving, but then Republicans (via their spew-piece Rush Limbaugh) decided to embrace all the evils we thought we had began to overcome - racism, homophobia, misogyny, and are wearing them as a badge of honor. It's like living in a nightmare seeing the Zimmerman verdict, and the anti-abortion bills passing in one state after another. WTF???

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