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Savannahmann

(3,891 posts)
Sun Jul 14, 2013, 10:09 AM Jul 2013

Is it a war crime if your allies think it is?

Last edited Sun Jul 14, 2013, 10:45 AM - Edit history (1)

I was reading the foreign press this morning. I tend to do that, English language only since my Spanish isn't good enough to try and get more than the vaguest outline of Spanish Language stories. When I came across this story. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2362684/Prince-Harry-witness-war-crime-US-opened-Afghan-goat-herders.html

According to the story, Prince Harry's unit in Afghanistan witnessed Americans engage and kill unarmed shepherds who were tending their flock. They were not a threat to the troops, and taking no aggressive action. According to the story, Prince Harry was not amused by this event.

Prince Harry was no more than 220 yards away when a US trooper standing aboard an armoured vehicle cocked a .50 calibre machine gun and fired successive bursts at Afghan shepherds tending their goats, The Mail on Sunday can reveal.

The shocking incident, which was confirmed last night by the Ministry of Defence, triggered a war crimes investigation by US military police.

It took place on Harry’s first frontline tour of Afghanistan, which, until today, has been shrouded in secrecy.


Apparently some units of ours were trying out the Soviet answer in Afghanistan. If you kill everyone, there isn't anyone left to oppose you.

BTW other than this linked story, there is no mention of Task Force 32 and war crimes. You would think someone would have said something about such a horrific incident.
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Is it a war crime if your allies think it is? (Original Post) Savannahmann Jul 2013 OP
The US Press does a great job of filtering out real news for us. Rec'd n/t Catherina Jul 2013 #1
Did you ever see this story? Savannahmann Jul 2013 #2
Good on him for that! n/t Catherina Jul 2013 #3
 

Savannahmann

(3,891 posts)
2. Did you ever see this story?
Sun Jul 14, 2013, 10:57 AM
Jul 2013

Not really related, but about the same subject, Prince Harry. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/prince-harry/10108456/Prince-Harry-saved-gay-soldier-from-homophobic-attack.html

Prince Harry had a tank at a war game in Canada. One of his tank crewmembers was gay, and had just recently come out. When threatened with bodily harm from other soldiers, ran and hid in the tank. When he explained what was going on, Prince Harry refused to allow the harassment to continue.

Trooper Wharton describes the Prince as "one of my greatest protectors", and claims that his acceptance of his homosexuality made him realise that he was right to be open about it, despite an attack which left him hospitalised.

Trooper Wharton went to find the Prince and tearfully told him "I think I'm going to be murdered by the infantry,” the Mail on Sunday reported.

As he explained what had happened Harry had a “complete look of bewilderment” on his face and responded: “Right I'm going to sort this ---- out once and for all."


Harry not only sorted it out once and for all, (granted that's a little easier when you're the grandson of the Monarch serving in the ROYAL Army.) but genuinely showed interest in the young man, asking questions about his life, and was by all accounts as open minded as the Rethugs are closed minded.

I've never met the Prince, and I don't think I ever will, we don't travel in circles that would intersect. However, I will admit that from what I've learned, a few personal peccadillos aside (Yes, I know about the Nazi uniform at the costume party, and the womanizing, and the drunken benders) when the pressure is on, he seems to do the right thing when it counts. More than could be said about a vast majority of the children of our ruling class. (Yes I know, Joe Biden's son is serving. There is an exception to most generalized statements, go with it on this one.)
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