On the wrong side of EVERY ISSUE

[NightWatcher]

Do some people set out to be willfully, blissfully wrong on every issue? I swear my fundie family members are trying to out do each other on how wrong they can be.

Politics- über repukes, check

Environment- fuck it, more waste, lets make the air unbreathable, the water undrinkable

Poverty- fuck the poor, god loves me, so I've got mine. (Insert welfare joke)

Science- god says the Earth is 6,000 years old. Forget whatever proof you have. You say the earth is round, they'll argue it's flat.

You name the issue and they'll be proud of how wrong they can be about the issue. It must be exhausting trying to be on the wrong side of everything.

[Siwsan]

1. I'm about to leave, to visit my EXTREME right wing mother

I know she will try to bring up the Trayvon Martin case, but I'm not going to fall into the trap. I know she will try to bring up the same sex marriage issue, but I'm not going to fall into the trap. No doubt she has much else in store for her 'knee jerk liberal' daughter.

I do have an ear ache, right now, so maybe I'll claim partial deafness, and respond to every FNTP (Fox News Talking Point) with 'HUH??

[Honeycombe8]

2. Have you been talking to my Dad? nt

[byeya]

3. Estrangement. The old question: Am I better off with them or without them. See

what your most honest answer is and then act accordingly.

[chervilant]

4. Just in the past year,

I've had to ask myself that question about my sisters. Sadly, I must answer "without."

[byeya]

7. Yes it's very sad to come to that realization but if a person reaches that point

and acts accordingly, a lot of misery can be eliminated.

[RandiFan1290]

5. I also notice that a lot of "democrats" marry those people

[JaneyVee]

6. Step 1 of being a conservative: take the asshole position on everything.

[NightWatcher]

8. Step 2. Make sure you've done Step 1

[kestrel91316]

9. Every time I read about families like this, I am extremely grateful

that I come from a family of good progressives.

Sister: Almost as liberal as me, but not a fire breather
Brother-in-law: As liberal as me, plus he's a fire breathing atheist
Niece: Possibly more liberal than me
Niece's husband: Socially very liberal, fiscally more conservative but not anti-tax at all
Nephew: As liberal as me

My parents: They were liberal enough to encourage their daughters to go to college and make their own way in the world, telling us that we didn't need to have a man or be married to succeed - this was in the late 60s and early 70s. I think my dad was an atheist but he was quiet about it. My mom thought church was silly.

On the down side, my BIL's mom is an Ohio conservative and church lady. I'll leave it at that. She pisses my sister off with it, which isn't easy to do.

My BIL's dad isn't a wacky conservative, but more old school fiscal conservatism and lassaiz faire on social issues. We've made progress with him about the gay thing in recent years. I convinced him that gays are born that way and don't choose to be. Side note: he lived in OH until they got divorced, then he lived in..........FLORIDUH! He's back in OH now. To his credit, he likes Obama and was one of the people doing recounts in Palm Beach County in 2000.

I think if I came from a family of RW nuts I'd have to kill myself.

ETA: My dad was a USAF officer and his colleagues sometimes came for cocktails or dinner. One of them was black, and they treated him exactly the same as everybody else. I remember this in the VERY early 60s, before the Civil Rights Act. Military integrated before the public sphere did.

ETA: My mom, in her later years when her mental problems were severe, had a mean, racist streak. But that wasn't the real her - she needed antipsychotics and refused to take them.

[NightWatcher]

11. The worst thing about their hate is their claim of religiousness

The use god as a scapegoat for their nastiness as well as their excuse to get out of thinking critically.

[lonestarnot]

10. Evil fucks.

[npk]

12. It's multiple generations of family values

Many of these people are raised to believe these things and their inability to go against what the rest of their family thinks, especially in the presence of their family, is simply too strong. Others are able to see their family members, as the imperfect beings they are and recognize moral and ethical wrongs and behave and act different from the rest of their family.

I will tell you that, growing up, my Aunt would often speak very disparagingly of minorities and African Americans, but she would only speak this way in front of her parents and other relatives. When she was with my mother and friends of hers she would act completely different and more progressive in her views.