We see you

[DainBramaged]

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You think defending the big brave man with a gun against a bag of Skittles is rewarding here?


We see you


Defending rape is a sport?


We see you


Pushing your guns for everyone agenda?


We see you



Appear out of nowhere to insult our intelligence with your 'pithy' comments about the law and rights?


We see you



We see you, we see you, we see you.


Man kills kid, man gets life in prison. Oh wait... man kills kid, man gets not guilty verdict.

[disidoro01]

1. You are

a strange, strange person. Who is "we" and who do you see?

[DainBramaged]

2. The folks that think they can fool us, we see you

if you dodn't get that,



we see you.

[disidoro01]

3. ok

Given that you see them, what do you and your assortment of "friends" do?

[DainBramaged]

5. Why is this important to you?

And thank you for keeping this near the top, additionally I appreciate the attention from you, it's not often someone I've never conversed with before pays me the attention I richly deserve.

[disidoro01]

6. It's just fun

and you are welcome.
I love Grumpy Cat

[JimDandy]

86. This one is nearly invisible though

194 since 2010 and ZERO recs! They all pop out as if on cue.

Zero Recs: We see you.

[billh58]

114. They are popping up

all over DU, and especially on the travesty of justice that allowed Zimmerman to get away with cold-blooded murder. Yep, we see them, but most importantly, we see THROUGH them.

[heaven05]

27. yep

we see you. And you don't think we don't know, you don't see yourself.

[Iggo]

7. We is us...

...and we see people who are having fun with this tragedy.

[arcane1]

8. We is me, too

And I see.

[HiPointDem]

107. we see *YOU*

[zeeland]

4. I see them too.

[madokie]

9. So do I DB

so do I

[DainBramaged]

12. They think we ae blind

[RC]

30. But we are not blind.

We do see and remember what is going on.

[DLevine]

10. I see them. nt

[Horse with no Name]

11. They slink into their hidey holes

and masturbate their guns...but we know who they are.

[99Forever]

13. Yes..

... they are slithering and scurrying all over the site.

[malthaussen]

14. Isn't being seen what they want?

Every time you even read one of their comments, another baby seal is clubbed to death.

-- Mal

[disidoro01]

15. I see

[aikoaiko]

16. I thought you put everyone whom you didn't like on ignore?

[Iggo]

20. He does...me included.

But in this he's right.

[freshwest]

17. Thanks, DainBramaged. It's why I changed my sig line.

Yes. We see them.

[DainBramaged]

43. One of my favorite movies of all times, and so true today

[freshwest]

91. Never applied as much as today. See the clip I posted below.

If it ain't that we're dealing with, it's the twin of the same thing.

[BlancheSplanchnik]

59. yes. they don't fool us. We unite

We are not blind, but awake.




Hey fresh, what movie is that?

[arcane1]

67. The movie is called "They Live"

It's a good one, too

[freshwest]

89. They Live. A cult classic ahead of its time. It resonates, despite the scifi.

They Live - The Sellout - John Carpenter

My favorite clip. The 'sell out' represents every GOP politician. They are like what the DUer wrote:

Republicans serve The Beast.

From the dawn of mankind they are the regressive element that's been holding back and destroying our civilization. They nourish other-dimensional entities that feed on misery, pain, and chaos.

Republicans are their minions, and hope to share in these entities' power, or be spared the pain.

But The Beast never shares; The Beast never spares.

Which is in tune with the recent Bill Maher quote posted here:

In The Great Divide Between Democrats and Republicans, Some Words From Bill Maher To Remember...

Democrats in America were put on Earth to do one thing... drag the ignorant, hillbilly half of this country into the next century, which in their case, is the 19th.

~ Bill Maher

[Honeycombe8]

18. Who is defending GZ? I haven't seen anyone "defending" GZ.

People keep saying that...but where are the defenders? There are those who understand the jury verdict, whether they agree or disagree.

I respect the jury's verdict in this case. They seem to have gone through the evidence. They had a very narrow set of questions to decide....not all the stuff being discussed in blogs & on tv. They found that, legally, the state did not prove beyond a reasonable doubt that GZ was not defending himself. I and others may have arrived at a different verdict, but I can't say that the evidence doesn't support their verdict.

The prosecutor can appeal, can't he?

A civil trial has an easier wall to hurdle. It's the level of "probable," more likely than not....not the "beyond a reasonable doubt."

It's all legal stuff. Not moral or ethical stuff.

[BainsBane]

19. You're joking?

Open your eyes.

[Honeycombe8]

22. Was TM killed? yes. Did GZ kill him? yes. Was GZ reasonable to fear he was in threat of

great bodily harm? Answer:_____.

That's pretty much what the jury was deciding, for manslaughter.

Fact: TM struck the first blow. (prosecutor conceded this...the evidence shows this)
Fact: TM was on top and had GZ down & hitting him (prosecutor conceded this...most of the evidence shows this)


All this other stuff about GZ getting out of the car, lying, not knowing the street names....that really doesn't matter in the end. For a manslaughter charge, anyway. Not legally.

The jury did not find that GZ was innocent. It was the state's burden to prove that GZ was NOT in fear of great bodily harm. Hard to prove that beyond a reasonable doubt. I can see how the jury decided that.

I don't know that that would've been my vote, but I can see how they decided that.

It's a rough row to hoe, when you're the one who strikes the first blow. Once you hit someone, they can claim they had to do this or that in self defense. In my mind, it has to be a REASONABLE response, though. I'm not sure a gunshot thru the heart is reasonable. Why not a warning shot in the air? But I wasn't in the jury room.

[NutmegYankee]

26. "Why not a warning shot in the air?"

So that the bullet could come down on some child's head?

Here's a thought - stay in the fucking truck and let the police (whom were called) handle it.

[RC]

39. Which is why this, at the very least is man slaughter.

Here's a thought - stay in the fucking truck and let the police (whom were called) handle it.

George Zimmerman WAS told to stay in the truck. He did not. He took the law into his own hands and ending up killing an innocent boy, walking in the rain, with his hood up. Since when is that a capital offense?

[NutmegYankee]

42. It should have been manslaughter at the bare minimum.

I still think the hunting him down was enough to prove murder 2.


This verdict fucking sucks!

[cherokeeprogressive]

94. Zimmerman should have been convicted of Manslaughter. But please stop repeating an untruth.

It clouds the issue.

Zimmerman was OUT of his truck when the 911 dispatcher said "We don't need you to do that". Please tell me how that equates to "George Zimmerman WAS told to stay in the truck".

[RC]

96. OK, Zimmerman was directed to stay in hi struck.

Better?

[DainBramaged]

52. So you feel it nexxessary to come heres and try yet again to defend the conduct of Das Zimmy?

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It's time to find something else to look foolish about.

PS

Honeycomb cereal sucks.


And I guess after seeing your reply, I proved my point.



Sucks to be you.

[HiPointDem]

108. lol. sure honey

[Honeycombe8]

121. Here you are spreading your sunshine and insightful contributions, again.

Maybe you can work your way up to a six letter word one day! And a complete sentence! And then who knows...maybe a cohesive paragraph! But I think I'm being too optimistic for you.

[jtuck004]

116. What fucking evidence shows he struck the first blow? What did I miss? Got a link

to anything other than the lying killer's assertion and a bunch of assumption?

There is a less than 1/4" abrasion on Trayvon's left ring finger, and the magic rain that washed all the blood off of him and completely missed the killer who was standing around talking to police.

I would really like to see that "evidence".

[ms liberty]

23. No, the prosecution cannot appeal. n/t

[heaven05]

31. Oh please!!!!!!!!!

God! You think people are stupid on this site!!!!!!!!

[premium]

32. No, the prosecution/State cannot appeal,

they get one bite of the apple, Zimmerman could stand up right now and tell the world that he murdered Trayvon and he can't be retried.

[totodeinhere]

61. The prosecutor cannot appeal a not guilty verdict. That judgement is final.

However the Justice Department might be able to indict him for a violation of federal civil rights laws or hate crime laws. I'm sure that they are actively looking into that.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

72. I wonder if Zimmerman is gonna do the smart thing and,...

Who am I kidding. He's gonna run to FOX "News" and run off his mouth.

[MattBaggins]

117. No he won't

He has the civil lawsuits hanging over his head. His lawyers will keep him quiet.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

69. Some of the greatest injustices of the South have been done with a jury.

[hrmjustin]

77. There are plenty of people who are defending him. Several got their tombstone last night and today.

[NutmegYankee]

93. I'm sure most them were low post count trolls

who signed up just to rub this shit in our face.

[hrmjustin]

95. For the most part. Some long time members said some really nasty things as well but it was allowed

to slide.

[NutmegYankee]

98. It boggles the mind to see people think Zimmerman's actions were legal.

I was so angry about it last night I had trouble getting to sleep.

[hrmjustin]

99. I got off of DU at 2 but fell asleep at 5.

[Scootaloo]

110. If only the high post-count trolls got similar treatment...

I look forward to seeing them give their chiding admonitions to those of us who are certain of Ariel Castro's guilt in the course of that trial.

[hopemountain]

118. "It's all legal stuff. Not moral or ethical stuff."

we see you.

[Skidmore]

21. Yes, we see. Now if we could just

get out of the circular firing squad mode and present a united front with strong coalitions to fight this hatred and right these injustices.

[Duckwraps]

62. +1000 nt

[Duckwraps]

63. Can't see me. I

have a Romulan clocking device and a tin foil hat.

[99Forever]

97. What time does...

... your "Romulan clocking device" say it is?

Time to say something really dumb?

[Skidmore]

105. Talking to yourself?

You aren't as clever as you think you are.

[ConcernedCanuk]

24. Haven't bumped into you for a while

.
.
.

"If you have to look here than you haven't been here long enough to know."

Actually, I have . . been here over ten years

But GD and LBN be getting nasty, and that jury system in DU sucks - as does the one in Florida obviously.

So I mostly hang out in the Lounge, dip into groups like rural/frugal living, environment and energy and the likes.

I dodge (literally) in and out of GD now and then.

I do peek around politics and LBN - there is a wealth of information on DU - I doubt I'd ever quit.

DU is my favorite forum -

Lotsa good people in here, but trying to wean myself off (successfully) of engaging in full blown arguments.

Now - I'm here for the wealth of information, as well as relaxing (mostly) entertainment in the Lounge.

CC

[ms liberty]

25. I see them too. K&R n/t.

[countingbluecars]

28. Yes we do. nt

[TommyCelt]

29. Question?

Are you content to surround yourself only with people who will rec your comments (+1+1+1+1), and preach to the choir? I see a lot of this here when I check in. Everyone clapping each other on the back at how enlightened they are about this story or that, and how dumb-ass the right wing is. FYI, discussions on freep and fox look exactly the same; just reversed wings.

Different wings, same friggin' bird...

[heaven05]

33. but

but, in war you always have someones' back and hope that they have yours. I don't want you in my foxhole. Go to the next one.

[TommyCelt]

36. Yeah, but

this is posturing on a political discussion board, not war.

[heaven05]

41. ya think????????

not!!!!!!! everyday it's war against the troglydites. On this site and others. This is the only site I've been on this morning, so far. Got to go feed my cats. It's been enlightening this morning. See ya!!!!!!!!!

[countingbluecars]

34. Big Difference.

We are correct in our beliefs. Discussions on freep and fox are bigoted and wrong.

[TommyCelt]

35. Funny...

They say the same things about you.

[countingbluecars]

38. Not funny.

Racism and bigotry are morally wrong. If "they" believe in hell, may they rot in it.

[Decoy of Fenris]

44. Morality is judged by society, and society is formed by perception.

If the general consensus via society is that something is moral and acceptable, then society itself passes a moral judgement that potentially "antisocial" behaviors and beliefs are by definition socially acceptable. Morality, by and large, is instilled through societal conditioning, and is arbitrary. Remember, there are people who believe that homosexuality and abortion are morally wrong; Society says otherwise, thus rendering their beliefs immoral.

Morality is certainly not concrete.

[LAGC]

58. That's part of the problem, I think.

Too many on our side see moral relativism whereas they see moral absolutes.

Sometimes a sense of fairness and equality trump whatever prevailing winds of morality happen to be endorsed by a given society though.

(At least until society as a whole comes around to agree.)

[Decoy of Fenris]

60. You're presuming that "fairness" and "equality" are socially superior in the eyes of humanity.

I think that as a whole, we are witnessing a phenomenon precipitating a cultural backslide, so to speak, wherein "civilized" culture is reverting back to an "uncivilized" base of "I got mine so fuck off." This is evident not only in the Zimmerman case, but also in the enhancement of the corporate state and the general state of mind of the average civilian, regardless of location. In Pre- and Post-World War II society, there was a significant establishment of the "Us" mentality, briefly witnessed in a resurgence during the Post-9/11 American world, but since discarded. Like as not, one of the root causes of this social phenomenon would be a worldwide economic downturn and lack of a clear and common "Enemy" against which to unite as a whole.

Unfortunately, it is my belief that the only way that we'll drag ourselves out of this state is if, for some reason, the entire world becomes threatened. Otherwise, barring a major war, I do not think that this generation or the upcoming ones will establish a clear sense of united humanity and will continue to slide backwards.

[chervilant]

109. The entire world

is threatened! We have met the enemy, and it is us! Far harder to be introspective and achieve personal growth, than to identify an inchoate group as 'other than' us, and thus the enemy.

We have an incredible opportunity to achieve a paradigm shift, so that our species continues, and our younglings (and great-grand-younglings) will look back and be proud of us. I hope we do.

[MattBaggins]

119. Do you like Little Ceasars

[arcane1]

40. You spend your time on freep and fox, and "check in" here?

No surprise there!

[TommyCelt]

56. Your reading comprehension...

...leaves much to be desired.

[DainBramaged]

45. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

you made a funny

[Skittles]

112. maybe you didn't catch the part that this is a DEMOCRATIC BOARD?

there's always the Freak Republic if you think stalking and killing an innocent teenager is peachy keen

[billh58]

123. Zombies and trolls

are swarming from their bigoted, right-wing swamps all across the intertubes...

[crim son]

37. They don't understand.

They can't see anything but themselves.

[rrneck]

46. What do you see?

Anonymous comments on an internet message board. A train station with a revolving door.

You know what I see? Consumerism, self congratulation, ideology as social plumage, intellectual dishonesty, authoritarianism, social domination and narcissistic obsession. I also see kindness, passion, generosity, curiosity, and good humor.

You know, people.

[HolyMoley]

47. Really? What am I wearing right now?

[countingbluecars]

48. A gun?

[HolyMoley]

50. What kind?

[DainBramaged]

53. Who gives a shit

You didn't come here to celebrate Barack Obama and the Liberal mindset, that's for sure.

[bobduca]

64. One that is slightly larger than your....

or at least compensates by letting you stroke it 24/7

[DainBramaged]

49. We see you

pretty awful picture.....welcome to the grinder.

[HolyMoley]

55. I know, morning hair.

My fault for leaving the WebCam on.

[AllINeedIsCoffee]

51. I don't know what they think they're accomplishing with their contrary behavior. nt

[Duckwraps]

65. Yes we should be completly conformist

on a liberal and progressive board.

[hrmjustin]

70. Can you explain this post you posted yesterday?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023244247#post63

[Duckwraps]

79. Yes

[hrmjustin]

81. Please do.

[Duckwraps]

82. Nope

[hrmjustin]

83. Ok, Not surprised!

[Duckwraps]

88. Actually I can't seem to find it. I'm using my phone

as I'm leaving town at this time.

[hrmjustin]

85. You said you signed up before. What was your username?

[galileoreloaded]

54. peek a boo, i see you too!

[Decoy of Fenris]

57. Sorry about my lack of pants. :)

[markiv]

66. but do you see yourself?

becoming a little more each day, like that which you claim to be against?

messages with repeated 'we see you', sound like you're seeing through eyeholes cut in a sheet

[bobduca]

68. This post gets the "Missing the Point Award" n/t

[markiv]

71. sorry, you already won it nt

[olddots]

73. can't you do better ?

I know you are but what am I ........cute

[markiv]

75. it was a return at the level you chose

no more was necessary

[arcane1]

76. Calling the poster a KKK member

Classy.

[markiv]

78. i didnt nt

[Gidney N Cloyd]

100. "Eyeholes cut in a sheet"?

Accusing him of playing Casper the Ghost?

[markiv]

101. i was saying it reminded me of it

NOWHERE did i actually claim the person was an actual member

thats a huge difference

'we see you'

wasn't that zimmerman's message?

think about it

[DainBramaged]

103. It's so easy when you folks take offense, so much easier....

have a nice day

[NealK]

74. Yes we do see them.

And defending that hillbilly gun nut by mentioning a shitty law is pathetic.



And Zimmerman is trash. He'll kill again since he's sure to get away with it each time, well as long as it's young African-American. A model member of a sick society.

[DearAbby]

80. Wait! Let'me get my glasses

ah ha! I see them too.

[stevenleser]

84. Oh yes, I see them.

[hrmjustin]

87. Yes we do see them!

[mstinamotorcity2]

90. Yes we see that the

Emperor has no fucking clothes on!!!!!!!

[Pelican]

92. Can someone clarify the "Defending Rape as a sport" silliness?

I would really be impressed if someone could point to the "pro-rape" faction of DU.

[DainBramaged]

102. (sigh)

[Skittles]

113. banging your head doesn't help, DB

nope

[HiPointDem]

106. +100, get the freaking trolls out of here, they're as creepy as zimmerman

[billh58]

122. This particular thread

is full of them, and they think that they are invisible...

[Skittles]

111. they do not fool me either

hyprocrites, all of them

[byronius]

115. Yes. I do as well.