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And to think that people back in 2008 thought that we were in a post-racial society... (Original Post) AZ Progressive Jul 2013 OP
Oh hell yes. ucrdem Jul 2013 #1
OH, btw...where is the President these days? eom Purveyor Jul 2013 #2
Who thought that? Old Union Guy Jul 2013 #3
This^^ Cal Carpenter Jul 2013 #4
Do any liberals really believe that? Just Saying Jul 2013 #5
It was an ideal expressed by both Obama in Kerry in their 2004 DNC speeches ucrdem Jul 2013 #8
Nobody thought or thinks that frazzled Jul 2013 #6
It was still progress treestar Jul 2013 #7
I never thought that. I thought we did cross a certain threshold. Rex Jul 2013 #9
the election of our first black president was a single instance of transcending rasism. liberal_at_heart Jul 2013 #10
Yes exactly. We had a great moment. Rex Jul 2013 #12
I grew up in Texas. I know what you mean. liberal_at_heart Jul 2013 #13
We have never been post-racial BainsBane Jul 2013 #11

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
1. Oh hell yes.
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 11:23 PM
Jul 2013

And Nixon's Southern Strategy is alive and well, doing better than ever in fact, after having been cleverly rebranded as the Libertarian "movement."

Just Saying

(1,799 posts)
5. Do any liberals really believe that?
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 11:30 PM
Jul 2013

Listen, I worked for Obama and voted for him (twice). But you know I was shocked when he won. It didn't even think he could get the nomination in the world we live in.

But none of that changed the fact that there is a whole big, racist world out there. How else do we get people like Birthers? And the worst part is a lot of people cant even accept, can't recognize that their attitude is racist. People arguing this case wasn't about race. Are you kidding me?

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
8. It was an ideal expressed by both Obama in Kerry in their 2004 DNC speeches
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 11:44 PM
Jul 2013

and again in 2012, in Obama's election-night victory speech, and many times in between. That was what "no red states, no blue states, just red white and blue United States" meant in all three speeches, phrased in slightly different ways.

No, I never thought it was actually true, but I hoped like many that we were still moving steadily in that direction. Since 9/11/2001 however we seem to have been moving backward fast, 2008 and 2012 notwithstanding.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
7. It was still progress
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 11:40 PM
Jul 2013

but it doesn't mean all is over as far as racial prejudice. I could tell that when Obama was held to a higher standard and had to do ten times as much to get a tenth of the credit previous Presidents got.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
9. I never thought that. I thought we did cross a certain threshold.
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 11:47 PM
Jul 2013

But the alarming and hideous state laws against women made me step back and realize the fact that we are going backward in some ways. Also, I live in south Texas and face racism almost everyday. I never thought a lot changed, I always stay leery. Like trusting the government or corporations having your best interest as their number one priority.

No. Never.

liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)
10. the election of our first black president was a single instance of transcending rasism.
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 11:53 PM
Jul 2013

There are still millions of instances of racism and discrimination against all minorities every single day.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
12. Yes exactly. We had a great moment.
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 11:54 PM
Jul 2013

But the reality for millions is just the same as it was the day before. I've always felt racism is growing, not shrinking. Living in Texas kinda has something to do with it.

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