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Plaid Adder

(5,518 posts)
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 11:05 PM Jul 2013

I cannot believe the Zimmerman verdict. Except that I can.

I remember where I was on April 29, 1992 when I heard that the LA cops who were videotaped beating up Rodney King had been acquitted. I couldn't believe it. It seemed incredible to me that when there was actual ocular proof of a group of cops beating up an unarmed man, you could not get a conviction.

I soon noticed something interesting and, until I learned to integrate it into my worldview, painful. I was at the time living in a southern state and my social circle was about 50% white and 50% African-American. My white friends were shocked and outraged and could not believe it. My African-American friends were outraged; but they were neither shocked nor surprised.

The riots began and went on for days and my friends and I had a number of very tense conversations. I remember one of my African-American male friends talking about what it was like to walk down the street and see people start locking their car doors as you pass by. It was perhaps the first time in my life that I truly understood that there were basic things about this country that I, because I was white, did not understand. One of those things is how much fear is still mobilized against Black men. Another is that a Black man who has been beaten or--as the Amadu Diallo case later demonstrated--shot to death by the police generally does not, in this country, get justice, no matter how obvious or well-documented the evidence of police brutality might be.

That was 1992. It is now 2013. Twenty-one years later, this has gotten no better. No; it has gotten worse. Because now, in order to shoot an unarmed Black male and get away with it, you don't even have to be a cop.

That part of it, I have to say, is shocking. It is as surprising to me as the acquittal of the four police officers who beat Rodney King was back in 1992. But it shouldn't have been. We have all seen ample evidence of the power of the 'stand your ground' narrative in the post-Newtown conversations about gun control. All this verdict does, really, is reveal in an unusually stark way the racist anxieties, fantasies, and nightmares on which things like the "stand your ground" law are based.

With what I have lived through and what I have learned I ought not to be surprised. I ought to have known this would happen. I let myself believe that things like this could not happen any more. But they can. Just as the Texas legislature can pass a bill that effectively bans abortion in the biggest state in the nation. Just as the Supreme Court can strike down the Voting Rights Act. Progress is neither linear nor inevitable. The rights you win are yours only as long as you can fight off the people who still don't want you to have them.

Another thing that 1992 taught me is that no matter how much it hurts me to have my illusions about justice and the rule of law and the value of human life in this country destroyed, the news of this verdict does not and can never hurt me as hard or in as many ways as it will hurt African-Americans. My skin will always protect me from the worst this country can do, just as the life I have been privileged to lead inside this skin has protected me from knowing what that worst really is. To those of us who are not so protected, all I can say is that it makes me sick to think about what, if I had a son who was African-American, I would be telling him about what just happened. We try to teach our daughter, who like us is of mostly European descent, about justice and injustice and race and class and everything else and she does cognitively grasp these things. But we do not have to say: you will have to be careful now where you walk, because after this it is open season on people who look like us.

I hate this. I hate it all: the fetishization of the gun, the assumption that the sanctity of property outweighs the value of human life, the blatant fucking racism that is so heartbreakingly obvious not only in the crime but in the treatment of it everywhere from the police to the media, and most of all the way that blatant as that racism is people are still pretending it doesn't exist.

Normally I try to end a post on an up note; but at this moment, I've got nothing. This is a sad, sad, sad fucking day.

The Plaid Adder


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I cannot believe the Zimmerman verdict. Except that I can. (Original Post) Plaid Adder Jul 2013 OP
Bookmarking for later. Too upset to give your post my full attention-- and I love your posts. Gidney N Cloyd Jul 2013 #1
Yeah, well, I can certainly understand that. I am pretty @#$! upset myself. n/t Plaid Adder Jul 2013 #3
thanks for writing this PA, beautiful. bench scientist Jul 2013 #2
TY Lucinda Jul 2013 #4
I agree. That's all I can say. n/t Cleita Jul 2013 #5
Indeed. This quote is pitch perfect... Horse with no Name Jul 2013 #6
This sentence of yours encapsulates the whole mess for me: CaliforniaPeggy Jul 2013 #7
A most appropriate and accurate distillation of where we are. thanks for this. NRaleighLiberal Jul 2013 #8
Great writing. Keep it up to inspire the goodness that lies hidden in many a heart. I'll read it lumpy Jul 2013 #9
I can believe it. We murder as a nation, no questions asked. The Straight Story Jul 2013 #10
Beautifully stated. In a nation that has zero empathy for the hundreds of thousands of people sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #13
If I was Sabrina Fulton tonight... ReRe Jul 2013 #18
I was also upset about the OJ Simpson verdict. Because I was convinced that he was guilty. Nye Bevan Jul 2013 #11
I can certainly believe it. enigmatic Jul 2013 #12
I just don't get it. Blue_Roses Jul 2013 #14
Roots had the same impact on me. classof56 Jul 2013 #17
K&R NealK Jul 2013 #15
Can someone please, if you know of any criminal case where a bonniebgood Jul 2013 #16
I am so fucking tired of evil winning... CapnSteve Jul 2013 #19
Up until 1992... awoke_in_2003 Jul 2013 #20
Well said. (no text) Quantess Jul 2013 #21
Years ago, I went to the grocery store with a coworker eilen Jul 2013 #22
Florida fucked up. In_The_Wind Jul 2013 #23
k&r Electric Monk Jul 2013 #24

Horse with no Name

(33,956 posts)
6. Indeed. This quote is pitch perfect...
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 11:11 PM
Jul 2013

"The rights you win are yours only as long as you can fight off the people who still don't want you to have them".

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,627 posts)
7. This sentence of yours encapsulates the whole mess for me:
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 11:13 PM
Jul 2013
The rights you win are yours only as long as you can fight off the people who still don't want you to have them.

Thank you.

lumpy

(13,704 posts)
9. Great writing. Keep it up to inspire the goodness that lies hidden in many a heart. I'll read it
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 11:17 PM
Jul 2013

again.

The Straight Story

(48,121 posts)
10. I can believe it. We murder as a nation, no questions asked.
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 11:18 PM
Jul 2013

You can have a thousand threads when one person kills another in Florida, and less than a handful when we kill people a world away from on high (because those folks don't seem to matter I guess).

We can't have investigations, we can't ask questions (national security), and those on high can cover up their crimes by having others take the blame.

And we expect justice? We are being desensitized each attack. Killing others is not so bad as long as they are not like us and we have what we 'feel' to be a good reason.

We turn on each other, pitted against one another in cases like this, while the big cases get swept away.

We fund thugs who murder, we use drones in countries not at war with, we sell arms to most anyone knowing what they will be used for - and this case is the one that outrages us the most, the one the media covers the most?

Led around by the news orgs who are telling us which cases are the ones we should follow and be outraged by. If they ignore it, we do. The public laps up what we are fed while many other things flow right by us.

No wonder nancy grace and others have the shows they do. It is what people want.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
13. Beautifully stated. In a nation that has zero empathy for the hundreds of thousands of people
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 11:29 PM
Jul 2013

who are murdered by our government on the excuse that we need to kill them in order for us to 'feel' safe, it is wishful thinking that the life of a teenager who doesn't represent the ruling class in any way, would have any more value than any of the people we kill with no compunction.

Another teenager was murdered, by drone, on secret orders by our government. His grandparents sought some justice for his murder, but right here on this Liberal forum, the murder of that teenager was defended.

I cannot imagine the pain of the Martin family tonight. I have never been able to imagine the pain of the families of all the innocents killed by our government on a daily basis. But i know one thing, we are a nation that has no respect for human life, unless those lives are part of a very small and very privileged class.

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
18. If I was Sabrina Fulton tonight...
Sun Jul 14, 2013, 01:35 AM
Jul 2013

... I would have to be admitted to a hospital and sedated with a drip.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
11. I was also upset about the OJ Simpson verdict. Because I was convinced that he was guilty.
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 11:20 PM
Jul 2013

However, the existence of the self-confessed racist Mark Furhman on the police investigation team tainted the case to a degree that I could understand jurors having some reasonable doubt. So while I didn't like it, I accepted the jury's verdict.

enigmatic

(15,021 posts)
12. I can certainly believe it.
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 11:23 PM
Jul 2013

There's a racial divide in this country that I doubt will ever be mended as long as Hate Talk Radio and Fox News run 24/7. They are throwing gasoline on the flames and raking in the money while doing it.

Blue_Roses

(12,894 posts)
14. I just don't get it.
Sun Jul 14, 2013, 12:22 AM
Jul 2013
I remember one of my African-American male friends talking about what it was like to walk down the street and see people start locking their car doors as you pass by. It was perhaps the first time in my life that I truly understood that there were basic things about this country that I, because I was white, did not understand. One of those things is how much fear is still mobilized against Black men. Another is that a Black man who has been beaten or--as the Amadu Diallo case later demonstrated--shot to death by the police generally does not, in this country, get justice, no matter how obvious or well-documented the evidence of police brutality might be.


Growing up in Louisiana during the 1960's, as a white child in an all-white neighborhood, I never had to worry about being profiled for my skin, nor did I even think about it. And I have to say, as much as it may not make sense, I feel guilty about that.

While my parents were not overtly racist, they just didn't talk about the plight of the black man, nor his struggles to be treated with the same fairness and respect with which we were treated.

But, in one night that all changed. While watching a little known movie, called "Roots," by Alex Haley.(little known after it was shown is an understatement!) It opened my eyes to things they were not teaching in our history classes at that time. It opened my eyes to things that were not talked about. But, most of all, it opened my eyes to something that just was not right and needed to be fixed.

Albert Einstein said:
"The world is a dangerous place to live; not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don't do anything about it."


and

Martin Luther King Jr. said:

"He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it..."


My heart is breaking for the Martin family tonight. For the sake of Trayvon and many more countless lives shuffled to the wayside due to hate, we have got to do better than this.

bonniebgood

(943 posts)
16. Can someone please, if you know of any criminal case where a
Sun Jul 14, 2013, 01:14 AM
Jul 2013

all-white jury EVER rule in favor of a black male? Blue State, purple state, red state does not matter. To the best of my knowledge they never have and they never will. All-white juries has to be outlawed. The defense in this case played the race card from the bottom of the deck throughout the trail and the prosecutors were so inept/scared would not even cross or call out this blatant racism. I would have been shocked if GZ were found guilty.

CapnSteve

(219 posts)
19. I am so fucking tired of evil winning...
Sun Jul 14, 2013, 01:40 AM
Jul 2013

...damm the death industry (also known as the gun lobby) to hell.

I know one thing that would end this shit once and for all: make gun manufactuers libel for the deaths their products cause, just like every other product sold it the US. Then, let murderers like George Zimmerman try to buy a gun...

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
20. Up until 1992...
Sun Jul 14, 2013, 01:44 AM
Jul 2013

I worked in retail auto parts. We were trained to suspect that any black male entering the store was about to shoplift, so keep an eye on them. I am ashamed of that time in my life. I should have known better

eilen

(4,950 posts)
22. Years ago, I went to the grocery store with a coworker
Sun Jul 14, 2013, 06:55 AM
Jul 2013

who was a black man. The cashier checked his $20 bill, testing it for counterfeit. They never did that to me.-- This is in NY and I think in the late 1990s. I was so embarrassed. I told him I thought it was bullshit. He was a customer and should have been treated with respect, not suspicion.

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