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JRLeft

(7,010 posts)
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 10:07 PM Jul 2013

Most black people knew before the trial started, what the verdict will be.

Most of you are shocked but with no black faces on the jury there was no chance. Too many white people could care less about us black folks. Hell a lot of them do not view us as Americans. We are here to entertain only.

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Most black people knew before the trial started, what the verdict will be. (Original Post) JRLeft Jul 2013 OP
I agree they knew the likely verdict. I hope rest of post isn't true. Hoyt Jul 2013 #1
I'm not black, I knew what the verdict would be... I've watched the discrepancies... NotThisTime Jul 2013 #2
I had hope, but the gnawing memories of American justice rurallib Jul 2013 #3
I cannot even begin mzteris Jul 2013 #4
other minorities also, i SOOOOO wanted to be wrong with what i thought would happen JI7 Jul 2013 #5
Me too Greywing Jul 2013 #6
True but not like us. This should remind every black celebrity, where you stand in society. JRLeft Jul 2013 #7
Sadly there are ones who supported Zimmerman. They got first dibs on Faux News and CNN. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2013 #10
Agree AsahinaKimi Jul 2013 #43
2004 is also the last time i felt this way JI7 Jul 2013 #51
Yep! I knew it. And it hurts really bad. Just called my brother and told him to be very careful Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2013 #8
Remember it always has been. JRLeft Jul 2013 #9
I grew up in Atlanta during the Atlanta Child Murders in the late 70s, early 80s Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2013 #11
Grew up in Oakland and Pittsburg, Ca. Where I was assaulted by the OPD and CCSD. My JRLeft Jul 2013 #13
MY GOD!!!!!!!!!! :( Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2013 #14
Many suspect that Wayne Williams had nothing to do with the murders. That it was the Klan Number23 Jul 2013 #19
I know. I know that's been the theories. That's why I made sure that I put the word "allege" in. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2013 #24
Sorry my response was so incoherent. I am literally shaking with rage right now. Number23 Jul 2013 #28
I know. Don't worry. I totally understand. I'm so angry that I'm numb. I want to cry but can't. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2013 #35
"It is indeed open season on black Americans." When the fuck ISN'T it open season on us? Number23 Jul 2013 #18
I was looking for you earlier. Thanks for being around. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2013 #20
You and OP, guys please come to the AA forum. I don't want to discuss this in this forum. Number23 Jul 2013 #27
You and I both know how this started, right? A black man got elected in November of 2008. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2013 #36
I'm there!! Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2013 #39
I am so sorry. madaboutharry Jul 2013 #12
I am so very sorry. I really thought it would be different DevonRex Jul 2013 #15
If only Trayvon had played in the NFL KamaAina Jul 2013 #16
There were black people on that jury. JRLeft Jul 2013 #17
That was a low blow. OJ was wealthy. He could afford the best attorneys money could buy. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2013 #22
That was the POINT. KamaAina Jul 2013 #40
Sorry. I am incredibly upset. I knew Zimmerman would be acquitted but it still bites!! Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2013 #42
Trayvon Martin is a modern-day Emmett Till duffyduff Jul 2013 #48
I'm sick about what happened tonight. enigmatic Jul 2013 #21
Which is why the gun nuts won't get their wet dream of riots. n/t Blackford Jul 2013 #23
I was shocked that an all female jury Rex Jul 2013 #25
Too many white women. I think people underestimate racism in some women, because they are women and JRLeft Jul 2013 #29
I know, I was being optimistic on the outcome. Rex Jul 2013 #31
A system can not fail those it was never meant to protect... HipChick Jul 2013 #26
Didn't they say that one of the jurors was Black-Hispanic? Jamaal510 Jul 2013 #30
Yeah. Igel Jul 2013 #50
this is such a despicable verdict... Blue_Roses Jul 2013 #32
seems like you hfojvt Jul 2013 #33
Seems like you Cal Carpenter Jul 2013 #38
People seem so shocked Cal Carpenter Jul 2013 #34
I'm not sure how shocked the DU is, the DU polling seemed to favor this result Johonny Jul 2013 #37
Move up north... McDiggy Jul 2013 #41
I admit I'm shocked treestar Jul 2013 #44
This white woman cares Ruby the Liberal Jul 2013 #45
I wish I could say you were wrong. 99Forever Jul 2013 #46
because we saw all the signs!!! mstinamotorcity2 Jul 2013 #47
I knew and wasn't surprised. Apophis Jul 2013 #49

rurallib

(62,416 posts)
3. I had hope, but the gnawing memories of American justice
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 10:12 PM
Jul 2013

kept telling me they would vote not guilty.

mzteris

(16,232 posts)
4. I cannot even begin
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 10:13 PM
Jul 2013

to rationally express what I'm feeling. Anger. Rage. Impotence. Incredulity. Disgust. Fear.

WTF is wrong with people that they think that this mf'er can just go gun down some kid - I don't give a fuck if the kid was smoking a big old bong on the street. You can't just go kill them. Fuck Florida. Fuck George Zimmerman. Fuck the jury. Fuck racist mf'ers.

That could have been MY son. And he's the sweetest kid on the planet. Of course he'd have given dipshit George a fight - he may be 14, but he outweighs - and outthinks - a stupid dumbfuck like George Zimmerman.

If he's not back in court for killing someone else within 18 months I'll be seriously surprised. I also think we will see a demoralizing increase in the number of black people being killed - you know - because they're BLACK.

 

JRLeft

(7,010 posts)
7. True but not like us. This should remind every black celebrity, where you stand in society.
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 10:15 PM
Jul 2013
 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
10. Sadly there are ones who supported Zimmerman. They got first dibs on Faux News and CNN.
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 10:18 PM
Jul 2013

They were used as human shields to help the racists refute charges of racism. The black Republicans are the most disgusting, though.

AsahinaKimi

(20,776 posts)
43. Agree
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 11:14 PM
Jul 2013

I have no words I can even express about all of this tonight. Mostly disappointment, The Last time I felt this way, GEORGE W BUSH won a second term as President and THE RIGHT WINGERS were shoving it in our face.

 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
8. Yep! I knew it. And it hurts really bad. Just called my brother and told him to be very careful
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 10:17 PM
Jul 2013

I'm a black woman, but I am very scared of the aftermath. It is indeed open season on black Americans.

 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
11. I grew up in Atlanta during the Atlanta Child Murders in the late 70s, early 80s
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 10:24 PM
Jul 2013

I remember my parents sitting me and my brother down and telling us about what to do if we're threatened, followed, attacked. The person alleged committing the murders of black children turned out to be black himself. But Wayne Williams has nothing on this culture that allows for the senseless pursuit, harassment, and killing of black people, especially black men.

 

JRLeft

(7,010 posts)
13. Grew up in Oakland and Pittsburg, Ca. Where I was assaulted by the OPD and CCSD. My
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 10:26 PM
Jul 2013

father sat me down to and gave me the be careful with the police talk.

Number23

(24,544 posts)
19. Many suspect that Wayne Williams had nothing to do with the murders. That it was the Klan
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 10:41 PM
Jul 2013

and that local cops blamed scapegoated Williams to take the focus off of the Klan.

Number23

(24,544 posts)
28. Sorry my response was so incoherent. I am literally shaking with rage right now.
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 10:48 PM
Jul 2013

I feel absolutely exhausted.

Number23

(24,544 posts)
27. You and OP, guys please come to the AA forum. I don't want to discuss this in this forum.
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 10:48 PM
Jul 2013

Between the habitual Obama haters and Zimmerman supporters, I would prefer to discuss this among friends.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/11873417

 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
36. You and I both know how this started, right? A black man got elected in November of 2008.
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 11:01 PM
Jul 2013

It hasn't been the same since.

Teabaggers
Birthers
Republican obstruction
KKKoch Brothers
NRA
ALEC and the assault on voting rights, reproductive rights, and Stand Your Ground laws in all the state legislatures

DevonRex

(22,541 posts)
15. I am so very sorry. I really thought it would be different
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 10:27 PM
Jul 2013

this time. He was a boy who went to the store for candy.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
16. If only Trayvon had played in the NFL
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 10:27 PM
Jul 2013

and starred in a couple of B movies, he might have had a fighting chance.

 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
22. That was a low blow. OJ was wealthy. He could afford the best attorneys money could buy.
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 10:44 PM
Jul 2013

OJ was guilty. Zimmerman, I believe, is guilty.

A young black kid who had hopes and dreams and plans to go off to college is dead.

 

duffyduff

(3,251 posts)
48. Trayvon Martin is a modern-day Emmett Till
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 11:21 PM
Jul 2013

Racism is still alive and well in this country. We haven't come as far as we think we have.

enigmatic

(15,021 posts)
21. I'm sick about what happened tonight.
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 10:44 PM
Jul 2013

The fatalist in me knew this would probably be the verdict, but I'm still sick.

I really don't know what else to say.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
25. I was shocked that an all female jury
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 10:47 PM
Jul 2013

found him not guilty, but I guess that is my bias. I thought the M$M propaganda wasn't enough, but I think it was. George W. and George Z. now have something in common.

 

JRLeft

(7,010 posts)
29. Too many white women. I think people underestimate racism in some women, because they are women and
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 10:49 PM
Jul 2013

mothers, but a shit load of white women are racist as hell I see them all of time in the bay area.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
31. I know, I was being optimistic on the outcome.
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 10:51 PM
Jul 2013

I am surprised they did not go with a manslaughter charge. I know I should not be surprised anymore.

Igel

(35,309 posts)
50. Yeah.
Sun Jul 14, 2013, 12:12 AM
Jul 2013

"light skinned" was the description. The description went from "black" to "Hispanic" though, so I suspect that "African-American" would be a wrong description. From Chicago in the last year, IIRC. No matter.

Either she's been dubbed an honorary "white woman" ...

Or since she's a person of color she's so unimportant as to be invisible.

Cal Carpenter

(4,959 posts)
34. People seem so shocked
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 10:57 PM
Jul 2013

but the only thing exceptional about this case is the amount of attention it got.

The fact is, our so-called justice system is racist. Institutionalized racism. In this case, Zimmerman wasn't even gonna get *arrested* if there hadn't been an outcry.

How much of this has to go on before more people realize this is the norm?

Johonny

(20,851 posts)
37. I'm not sure how shocked the DU is, the DU polling seemed to favor this result
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 11:02 PM
Jul 2013

for a while now. I think most people having read the results of trials more straight forward in Florida that end in not guilty verdicts were anything but optimistic. I think it is safe to say there is a healthy dose of pessimism on the DU about these things

McDiggy

(150 posts)
41. Move up north...
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 11:10 PM
Jul 2013

...North of the M-D line, this shit wouldn't stand. My white ass would be on the jury giving this dude 30+ years. I really hoped that we were moving to a post-race America, then this happens. Completely embarrassing. The South drags the rest of us back down as usual. I feel horrible for our Southern brethren on here. You are surrounded by idiots.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
44. I admit I'm shocked
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 11:14 PM
Jul 2013

I really thought they would come up with at least manslaughter. Z had a gun and a clear attitude to start with - and that poor sweet boy is dead. His side of the story can't come out. I wonder at the prosecutors playing the Z interviews - gave him a chance to make his claims without testifying under cross examination. Still his claims seemed very transparent and patently false to me.

Ruby the Liberal

(26,219 posts)
45. This white woman cares
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 11:17 PM
Jul 2013

and as soon as the nausea and anger subsides, you will get an earful. Right now, I am sick and numb.

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
46. I wish I could say you were wrong.
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 11:20 PM
Jul 2013

It saddens me very deeply that you are absolutely correct.

It is a very ugly night in America, evil has triumphed.

This cannot stand.

mstinamotorcity2

(1,451 posts)
47. because we saw all the signs!!!
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 11:20 PM
Jul 2013

We saw them with the prep work. It started with having the trial. There would have never been a trial if people had not pushed for it. But as soon as the trial was under way what happened? They took race out of the equation. then they started trotted out every civic leader they could fine. I am crying because no Children of Color will ever be safe in America!!! NEVER!!!!!!

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