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Orrex

(63,224 posts)
Fri Jul 12, 2013, 07:21 PM Jul 2013

If we agree on nothing else, can we agree that "asylee" isn't a word?

Nothing about Snowden's wild tales has caused me to question his overall veracity, if only because it seems to me that anyone with open eyes should already have assumed that the government was spying on us in the manner that he describes.

But to make up a clumsy, unmelodic word like "asylee?"


Suddenly I don't feel like we can trust him...

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If we agree on nothing else, can we agree that "asylee" isn't a word? (Original Post) Orrex Jul 2013 OP
I want to agree with you on this term, but it would appear we are both wrong... hlthe2b Jul 2013 #1
It's still clumsy and unmelodic, though Orrex Jul 2013 #7
It might be in all of those things they posted, but its not on dictionary.com. renie408 Jul 2013 #8
It's also a legalism coined in 1992, according to Webster's Orrex Jul 2013 #10
If clumsy and unmelodic words were barred the internet would go dark. rug Jul 2013 #9
And we could never again discuss snorkeling. Orrex Jul 2013 #11
Or schadenfreude. rug Jul 2013 #14
or spelunking. displacedtexan Jul 2013 #18
"Internet" was a made-up word IDemo Jul 2013 #20
Actually it is a word Tx4obama Jul 2013 #2
Once again, jumping in out of your depth. Egalitarian Thug Jul 2013 #3
Actually, it worked exactly as I intended. On two counts, in fact. Orrex Jul 2013 #6
.. Egalitarian Thug Jul 2013 #12
No, we cannot agree. Luminous Animal Jul 2013 #4
You should make that your new sigline :) Electric Monk Jul 2013 #5
it's a perfectly promulent word frylock Jul 2013 #13
No. GeorgeGist Jul 2013 #15
Find it for me Orrex Jul 2013 #16
The word "internet" itself was coined in 1985. Luminous Animal Jul 2013 #17
Though I dislike it (because 'asyle' isn't a verb), it's been in use since at least 1950 muriel_volestrangler Jul 2013 #19
Shit Orrex Jul 2013 #21

hlthe2b

(102,376 posts)
1. I want to agree with you on this term, but it would appear we are both wrong...
Fri Jul 12, 2013, 07:28 PM
Jul 2013

Simple google search yields this:

USCIS - Asylee

www.uscis.gov › Home › RESOURCES › Glossary?
Asylee. An alien in the United States or at a port of entry who is found to be unable or unwilling to return to his or her country of nationality, or to seek the ...
Asylee Status | Immigration Equality

immigrationequality.org/issues/law-library/lgbth-asylum.../asylee-status/?
When asylum is granted, it means that the asylee will have the opportunity to live and work legally in the United States and will eventually have the opportunity to ...
asylee - Wiktionary

en.wiktionary.org/wiki/asylee?
asylee. Definition from Wiktionary, the free dictionary. Jump to: navigation, search ... asylee (plural asylees). A non-citizen of a country who has been granted ...
Asylee Information and Hotline | Office of Refugee Resettlement ...

www.acf.hhs.gov › Office of Refugee Resettlement?
Jul 12, 2012 - English - Asylee Eligibility for Assistance and Services (PDF 238KB) (DOC 40KB). Spanish (En Español) - Elegibilidad de personas bajo asilo ...
Refugee & Asylee Programs - Lutheran Family Services

www.lfsco.org/refugee-asylee?
The Lutheran Family Services (LFS) Refugee & Asylee Programs are dedicated to helping these vulnerable individuals and families rebuild their lives by ...
[PDF]
Refugees and Asylees Have the Right to Work Flyers

www.justice.gov/crt/about/osc/pdf/refugee_asyleeflyer32510.pdf?
Refugees and Asylees Have the Right to Work. Employers Should Know: 1. Refugee and asylum status may be granted to people who have been persecuted or ...
Asylee Information | CLINIC

cliniclegal.org/asylees?
Each year, more than 20,000 people from over 100 nations are granted asylum in the United States. Asylees have often suffered from persecution in their ...
[PDF]
Refugees and Asylees: 2011 - Homeland Security

www.dhs.gov/xlibrary/assets/statistics/publications/ois_rfa_fr_2011.pdf?
by DC MARTIN - Cited by 2 - Related articles
immediate relatives) and one for asylees (persons in the U.S. and their immediate .... must file a Form I-730, Refugee/Asylee Relative Petition, for each qualify-.
Political asylee - The Free Dictionary

www.thefreedictionary.com/Political+asylee?
The right of receiving protection within a foreign embassy or other place recognized by custom, law, or treaty. Want to thank TFD for its existence? Tell a friend ...
Asylee Women Enterprises | She Didn't Come for a Better Life - She ...

www.asyleewomen.org/?
Purchase your Shop For A Cause pass here! Volunteer · Save the Date · Buy From the Co-Op. © Asylee Women Enterprises 2012. Designed by Antsin.com.
News for asylee



'My asylee status now formal': Snowden declares 'acceptance' of all offers of asylum


RT (blog) ?- 6 hours ago
Edward Snowden says his asylum status is now official as he accepts all offers made to him.

renie408

(9,854 posts)
8. It might be in all of those things they posted, but its not on dictionary.com.
Fri Jul 12, 2013, 07:41 PM
Jul 2013

So, if you want, we can agree it isn't a word. I'm game for that.

Orrex

(63,224 posts)
10. It's also a legalism coined in 1992, according to Webster's
Fri Jul 12, 2013, 07:43 PM
Jul 2013

It's fun to make up words, and we can refudiate anyone who says otherwise!

Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
2. Actually it is a word
Fri Jul 12, 2013, 07:29 PM
Jul 2013


Asylee Law & Legal Definition

Asylee refers to an alien in a country or at a port of entry who is found to be unable or unwilling to return to his/her country of nationality, or to seek the protection of that country because of persecution or a well-founded fear of persecution.

In the U.S, an asylee is eligible to adjust to lawful permanent resident status after one year of continuous presence in the country. The Department of Homeland Security handles the asylum program.

http://definitions.uslegal.com/a/asylee/



Noun

asylee (plural asylees)

A non-citizen of a country who has been granted asylum in that country.

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/asylee



Orrex

(63,224 posts)
6. Actually, it worked exactly as I intended. On two counts, in fact.
Fri Jul 12, 2013, 07:36 PM
Jul 2013

1. You displayed your petty bitterness, right on cue.

2. I've seen any number of posts complaining that such-and-such a word isn't a real word because it's not on dictionary.com. This helps me prove the inadequacy of the source.


Thanks for your help, petty and bitter though it be!

Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
4. No, we cannot agree.
Fri Jul 12, 2013, 07:35 PM
Jul 2013

Oops!

If we agree on nothing else, can we agree that "asylee" isn't a word?

Nothing about Snowden's wild tales has caused me to question his overall veracity, if only because it seems to me that anyone with open eyes should already have assumed that the government was spying on us in the manner that he describes.

But to make up a clumsy, unmelodic word like "asylee?"


Suddenly I don't feel like we can trust him...

 

Electric Monk

(13,869 posts)
5. You should make that your new sigline :)
Fri Jul 12, 2013, 07:36 PM
Jul 2013
Fri Jul 12, 2013, 06:21 PM

Orrex
0. If we agree on nothing else, can we agree that "asylee" isn't a word?

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Nothing about Snowden's wild tales has caused me to question his overall veracity, if only because it seems to me that anyone with open eyes should already have assumed that the government was spying on us in the manner that he describes.

But to make up a clumsy, unmelodic word like "asylee?"


Suddenly I don't feel like we can trust him...

Orrex

(63,224 posts)
16. Find it for me
Fri Jul 12, 2013, 09:54 PM
Jul 2013
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/asylee

I guess if we're willing to accept artificial words, that's cool.

But then we can't complain when someone coins "refudiate," either.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,365 posts)
19. Though I dislike it (because 'asyle' isn't a verb), it's been in use since at least 1950
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 06:02 AM
Jul 2013

Oxford English Dictionary:

asylee, n.
Etymology: < asyl- (in asylum n.) + -ee suffix1, after refugee n.

A person who is seeking, or has been granted, political asylum. Cf. asylum seeker n. at asylum n. Additions.

1950 Internat. Organization 4 336 It was proposed that the OAS council undertake the study of methods to give effectiveness to..the regimen of political asylees, exiles and refugees.
1956 Grotius Soc. Trans. 41 105 If in the advent of a rupture of diplomatic relations the diplomatic representative who has granted asylum must leave the country to which he has been accredited, he shall depart from it with the asylees.
1980 H. Marchant His Excellency Regrets iv. 63 Any native of a given country has the right of asylum in the embassy of any other Latin American country. I've known a hundred asylees in one embassy at a time.
2005 Jrnl. Ethnic & Migration Stud. (Nexis) Sept. 865 Only legally recognised refugees and asylees can access government-funded programmes for resettlement.

Orrex

(63,224 posts)
21. Shit
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 08:21 AM
Jul 2013

Oh, well. The outrage was fun while it lasted. And you're the first one to give an actual dictionary etymology, rather than a citation of recent use.

Still, you hit it right on the head: it's a dubious construct.


Boo!

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