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xchrom

(108,903 posts)
Fri Jul 12, 2013, 09:05 AM Jul 2013

Farm Bill Deal to Hungry Americans: You're on Your Own

http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2013/07/farm-bill-deal-to-hungry-americans-youre-on-your-own/277721/



Last night, House Republicans made good on their promise to split the apparently unpassable farm bill in two--the farm part, with its many and controversial subsidies to big agriculture, now in the form of crop insurance, and the nutrition part, the $80 SNAP, or food stamp, program. And just now, they passed the 608-page bill they released, 216-208.

As with pretty much everything to do with the going-on-two-year struggle to pass a new five-year farm bill, this has more to do with political theater than collaboration. Eric Cantor made a point of announcing the division during an appearance at the Aspen Ideas Festival a few weeks ago (which did not impress Conor Friedersdorf, who commented that the moderator, Ramesh Ponnuru, "may as well have asked, 'Could you recite conservative boilerplate in a monotone?'&quot . "We'll get it passed by the end of July," he said of his split bill.

Already, some were calling the move an attempt by Cantor to highlight John Boehner's last-minute failure to muster enough votes to pass the last iteration--which came to grief over the proposed $20 billion in food-stamp cuts--and to position himself as the next, stronger, speaker of the house. That was certainly the best political explanation for a move that seemed to have nothing to do with bipartisanship or realism. And today's vote will certainly strengthen his campaign to displace Boehner, if the speculation is right.

The idea of the split makes intuitive sense. Anyone who looks at the farm bill for a few minutes--or, like Dan Imhoff, devotes a book to it, or, like Marion Nestle, an entire semester's course to it--sees what a chimera or, more to the point, a monster it is. It has next to nothing to do with the farms most people think of--the ones growing mixed crops, the ones that supply farmer's markets. It doesn't mention environmental protection or land conservation, though some of the country's most important safeguards are in it. And it doesn't mention nutrition assistance or hunger, though fully four-fifths of it are food stamps. Why not keep the agricultural parts, even if they benefit only industrial agriculture, in what's called the farm bill, and call the food-assistance portion what it is? That would get the farm bill back on the rails, and stop letting SNAP debates hijack every vote.
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Farm Bill Deal to Hungry Americans: You're on Your Own (Original Post) xchrom Jul 2013 OP
K & R !!! WillyT Jul 2013 #1
And then this Gem crops up warrant46 Jul 2013 #2
the collective american 'we' hates the poor. xchrom Jul 2013 #3
We the poor can't fight back Hydra Jul 2013 #5
I'm not sure why these aren't pipoman Jul 2013 #4

warrant46

(2,205 posts)
2. And then this Gem crops up
Fri Jul 12, 2013, 09:24 AM
Jul 2013

A Minnesota state representative, discussing the expansion of people using food stamps, tries to illustrate her point that the program creates dependency by quoting an “ironic” story a “friend” sent her.

As Bluestem Praire reports, Minnesota Republican Representative Mary Franson said, “Last week, we worked on some welfare reform bills. And here, it’s kind of ironic, I’ll read you this little funny clipped that we got from a friend. It says, ‘Isn’t it ironic that the food stamp program, part of the Department of Agriculture, is pleased to be distributing the greatest amount of food stamps ever. Meanwhile, the Park Service, also part of the Department of Agriculture, asks us to please not feed the animals, because the animals may grow dependent and not learn to take care of themselves.”

The poor and being pilloried at every turn


xchrom

(108,903 posts)
3. the collective american 'we' hates the poor.
Fri Jul 12, 2013, 09:27 AM
Jul 2013

and i sort of point fingers all around -- we deny the poor assistance or if we do assist them -- we require them to jump through hoops of humiliation like circus animals.

Hydra

(14,459 posts)
5. We the poor can't fight back
Fri Jul 12, 2013, 01:20 PM
Jul 2013

The people at the top love it when they can be sure there's no threat to them when they bully.

Oh, but when you talk about taking their free lunch away...

 

pipoman

(16,038 posts)
4. I'm not sure why these aren't
Fri Jul 12, 2013, 09:32 AM
Jul 2013

2 separate issues. Determining conditions of the subsidy/insurance program is complex enough without having the other complex issue of feeding the needy included.

Those who refer to the farm bill as 'welfare' for farmers simply don't understand the function of subsidies and insurance..for a clue they should take a look at recent wheat news from Argentina..exactly what happened before our modern farm bills..

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