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KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
Fri Feb 17, 2012, 03:28 PM Feb 2012

Why MSNBC Dumped Pat Buchanan: His 10 Most Outrageous Statements

http://thinkprogress.org/media/2012/02/17/427875/why-msnbc-dumped-pat-buchanan-his-10-most-outrageous-statements/

3. Claimed Jerry Sandusky’s atrocities are because of “Homosexual marriage.” Buchanan appeared on a right-wing radio show on November 15 to make some convoluted comparisons: “Let’s take this Penn State thing…these horrors, there’s an organization that marches in the gay pride parade in New York called—used to—called the North American Man Boy Love Association, which advocated voluntary sex along the lines of exactly what was going on at Penn State. Many of our political icons have marched in that parade right behind that NAMBLA float […] This is now, homosexual marriage is now the civil rights cause of the decade.”

I'm sure Sandusky's victims will be pleased to know that what he did to them was "voluntary".

4. Said the Jewish population in the United States dropped in the 90s because Jews aborted all their babies. Buchanan explains that the decline in the American Jewish population during the 1990s (a decline that a Brandeis study says never occurred), “is a result of the collective decision of Jews themselves. From Betty Friedan to Gloria Steinem in the 1970s to Ruth Bader Ginsburg today, Jewish women have led the battle for abortion rights. The community followed.”

Jews themselves would tend to place the blame for such a decline, if it even occurred, on assimilation and intermarriage in which the children are not raised Jewish.

6. Claimed that all great nations punish the gays. In a Human Events column, Buchanan attacked California’s 9th Circuit Judge Vaughn Walker after his ruling of Proposition 8 as unconstitutional as a “judicial tyrant,” before going on to explain that “through history, all the great religions have condemned homosexuality and all the great nations have proscribed or punished it. None ever placed homosexual liaisons on the same plane as traditional marriage, which is the bedrock institution of any healthy society.

Two words: ancient Greece.

9. Dabbled in Holocaust denial. Pat Buchanan danced alarmingly close to denying key facts of the Holocaust. In a 1990 column for the New York Post, he defended convicted Nazi war criminal Ivan Demjanjuk (whom he later compared to Jesus Christ) against charges from Holocaust survivors that he was guilty of murder by accusing the survivors of misremembering all of it: “This so-called ‘Holocaust Survivor Syndrome’ involves ‘group fantasies of martyrdom and heroics.’ Reportedly, half of the 20,000 survivor testimonies in Yad Vashem memorial in Jerusalem are considered ‘unreliable,’ not to be used in trials[…]The problem is: Diesel engines do not emit enough carbon monoxide to kill anybody.”

Jesus Christ!
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Why MSNBC Dumped Pat Buchanan: His 10 Most Outrageous Statements (Original Post) KamaAina Feb 2012 OP
About time! Larkspur Feb 2012 #1
With his record, he should run for priesident again:o) libinnyandia Feb 2012 #2
He's probably too liberal for today's Republican base. Arugula Latte Feb 2012 #3
He's terrible! FarLeftFist Feb 2012 #4
# 11: A vote for Obama in 2012 is a vote against a needless war with Iran flexnor Feb 2012 #5
I was always amazed they hired him in the first place. Kurmudgeon Feb 2012 #6
#8: Argued Poland and the UK "had it coming" in World War II. Bruce Wayne Feb 2012 #7
Holy Hell... Number23 Feb 2012 #8
 

Larkspur

(12,804 posts)
1. About time!
Fri Feb 17, 2012, 04:57 PM
Feb 2012

When liberal guests or pundits commit faux pas not as bad as Robertson's bigotry, they are canned quickly. Robertson should have been booted out a long time ago.

 

flexnor

(392 posts)
5. # 11: A vote for Obama in 2012 is a vote against a needless war with Iran
Fri Feb 17, 2012, 06:12 PM
Feb 2012

yup, he really said it

articlle exerpts below

"Year 2012 is thus shaping up as a war-or-peace election, with Republicans the war party and Democrats the peace-and-diplomacy party."


"Why have the Iranians not followed through on their threat to close the Strait of Hormuz and begun to dial it back?

War with the United States would be a disaster. Though the Tehran regime might survive -- as Saddam Hussein's survived Desert Storm -- Iran's navy, most of its armor, anti-aircraft and anti-ship defenses, and its strategic missile force would be destroyed, as would much of the country's infrastructure. Iran would be set back years.

Who, then, wants war with Iran?

All those who would like to see exactly that happen to Iran.

And who are they? The Netanyahu government and its echo chamber in U.S. politics and media, the neoconservatives, members of Congress, Newt Gingrich and Rick Santorum. (my note MSNBC = MS-NBC, ever thought about who owns NBC? -> GE, a military industrial complex titan)

And as the Obama administration is the major force in U.S. politics opposed to war with Iran, its defeat in November would increase, to near certitude, the probability of a U.S. war with Iran in 2013.
Yet if the Pentagon and U.S. intelligence community are correct -- Iran does not have a bomb and has not decided to build a bomb -- why should we go to war with Iran?

Answer: Iran represents "an existential threat" to Israel.

But Israel has 200 atomic bombs and three ways to deliver them, while Iran has never built, tested or weaponized a nuclear device. Who is the existential threat to whom here?

And though a U.S. war on Iran would be calamitous for Iran, it would be no cakewalk for Americans, who could become terrorist targets for years in the Gulf, Afghanistan, Baghdad's Green Zone, Lebanon and even here in the USA.

Year 2012 is thus shaping up as a war-or-peace election, with Republicans the war party and Democrats the peace-and-diplomacy party."

Read it yourself - From

http://townhall.com/columnists/patbuchanan/2012/02/07/who_wants_war_with_iran/page/full/

Bruce Wayne

(692 posts)
7. #8: Argued Poland and the UK "had it coming" in World War II.
Fri Feb 17, 2012, 07:51 PM
Feb 2012
8. Argued that Poland and the United Kingdom had it coming in World War II. Buchanan seems to suggest in a 2009 column that World War II—and all the atrocities that accompanied it—was really the fault of Poland and Britain, for refusing to engage in diplomacy with Germany. “Why did Warsaw not negotiate with Berlin, which was hinting at an offer of compensatory territory in Slovakia? Because the Poles had a war guarantee from Britain that, should Germany attack, Britain and her empire would come to Poland’s rescue.”


My eyes hurt from rolling back too far. Is he really not aware of the diplomacy that took place in Munich in 1938, less than a year before Poland? Hitler told Britain, France, and Italy(!) that he only wanted a bit of Czechoslovakia--the Sudetenland. Six months later, his tanks were rolling through Prague. But of course his demand for a little bit of Poland were perfectly innocent and would never be followed by a full on invasion--despite the fact that Hitler already had a secret treaty with Stalin to divvy up Poland between them.

Pat Buchannan has crossed the line from historical revisionism to historically stupid.

Number23

(24,544 posts)
8. Holy Hell...
Fri Feb 17, 2012, 08:42 PM
Feb 2012
7. Penned “The Affirmative Action Nobel.” That’s the title of Buchanan’s October 13, 2009 column on Townhall.com in which he claims that President Obama’s Nobel Prize was simply the result of affirmative action. And the column only got worse from there: “They have reinforced the impression that Obama is someone who is forever being given prizes — Ivy League scholarships, law review editorships, prime-time speaking slots at national conventions — he did not earn.”


This has been Pat's MO for decades regarding any type of black achievement. No real surprises but astonishing nonetheless...
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