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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums"No one buys Iran's claim that it's nuclear program is for peaceful purposes"
Would that be in the same manner that no one bought Saddam Hussein's claim that he'd gotten rid of his WMD programs, Erin?
The bleat goes on.....
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)They know exactly what would happen if they attacked us. But they may react if someone attacks them first.
FrodosPet
(5,169 posts)I'm trying to find a tolerant, peaceful description, but there seems to be as much doom and gloom and death to everyone who doesn't believe their fairy tale as there is in xtian fundyism.
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)They all have the same attitudes towards women, they feel that god is on their side so nothing they do to unbelievers is wrong in the eyes of their particular god.
Puzzledtraveller
(5,937 posts)If that is what it ends up being, if not by name? War with Iran? Are sanctions not preemptive in nature? Just asking.
naragdaban
(30 posts)While we're on the subject, I highly doubt that Iran was behind the Bangkok bombing either. Israel seems very quick to point the finger, and it is known that they, of all the countries in the region, want war a war with Iran more than anyone else. I would not be surprised to hear that the Mossad is trying to frame Iran in order to get foreign support in a war against Iran.
There is actually a precedent for this type of action. During the Lavon Affair a group of Egyptian Jews were recruited to bomb American targets with the intention to frame the Egyptians. These operations of course were to fool the British the British government to retain its occupying troops in Egypt's Suez Canal zone on Israel's behalf.
Redstate Bluegirl
(213 posts)Don't you think?
BuroshKozorg
(21 posts)Look up the Wikipedia article. The Lavon affair is a well-documented event. As was the USS Liberty Incident, when Israeli planes shot an at American ship, clearly displaying the American flag, in international waters, with the hope that Egypt could be blamed for it.
By the way it should be said that a lot of countries are engaged in "false flag" operations as a reason to go to war. The Mukden incident in 1931 involved Japanese officers fabricating a pretext for annexing Manchuria by blowing up a section of railway. Six years later in 1937 they falsely claimed the kidnapping of one of their soldiers in the Marco Polo Bridge Incident as an excuse to invade China proper. The 1953 coup d'etat against Iran was conducted in a similar way, and as a pretext for installing the Shah (Operation Ajax) And of course, who can forget that America went to Iraq in part because of the lie that Saddam had links to Al-Qaeda!
nanabugg
(2,198 posts)They need to be educated.
madokie
(51,076 posts)Iran better hurry up and get a bomb or they're going to be invaded like Iraqistan was. Kinda like with north korea if you got the bomb people have a tendency to take a more gentle stance and walk a little wider arc around you and hope like hell they don't piss you off enough to say fuck it and use the damn thing. What I'm saying is I think that Iran needs to arm themselves if they expect to be able to self govern much longer. I don't agree with what they do but thats me and I'm only one person and its really not for me to say anyway. I feel that our governments cia involvement in that whole region since before ww2 warrants they're hatred of us.
quinnox
(20,600 posts)Yes Erin, we all are shaking in our boots about the imminent threat from Iran!
izquierdista
(11,689 posts)These are the same people that didn't think twice when the Shah wanted to send some 3 dozen engineering students here to get trained in nuclear engineering. So now, 35 years later, it's a surprise Iran wants a nuclear energy program? It has to be for nefarious purposes?
sinkingfeeling
(51,478 posts)on somebody else!
malaise
(269,200 posts)ReTHUGS would love an attack on America before the election.
They must view that as their only fugging chance of winning.
I hope the administration is being vigilant because I know they are desperate.
spanone
(135,891 posts)Redstate Bluegirl
(213 posts)JackRiddler
(24,979 posts)Redstate Bluegirl
(213 posts)JackRiddler
(24,979 posts)Same deal as now, except now is even worse.
The agencies may have exaggerated possibilities or asked ridiculous questions (that Iraq's capabilities were destroyed in the early 1990s was well-known, since US officers supervised the process). But it was the politicals pushing for war who made up the narrative counter to what was known to be a nothing WMD capability. Now as well, the agencies know Iran doesn't have a program, and the politicals are spinning that into its opposite.
Blue in Red State
(18 posts)I made the Recommended list 3 times & served on 4 juries in 10 days and now I'm trash?????
bvar22
(39,909 posts)I can.
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You CAN fool most Americans
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magical thyme
(14,881 posts)Because oil is a limitless, self-renewing resource which they are, naturally, obligated to sell to us on demand, paid for in the manner most beneficial to us, into eternity or until they run out, which of course will never happen because it is limitless and self-renewing.
Besides which, who the hell do they think they are to be able to defend themselves. It's not like anybody is threatening them...oh, wait...never mind.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)Watch it take off. No one loves them a war better than the MSM.