This is who Rand Paul is: he hires white supremacists to advise him

[geek tragedy]

People sometimes talk about how we should support people like the Pauls when they say stuff we kind of agree with, and that we are too hasty in ruling out working allances with them.

Fuck that noise.

Remember the comments he made about the civil rights act being unconstitutional?

Makes sense now.

http://freebeacon.com/rebel-yell/

A close aide to Sen. Rand Paul (R., Ky.) who co-wrote the senator’s 2011 book spent years working as a pro-secessionist radio pundit and neo-Confederate activist, raising questions about whether Paul will be able to transcend the same fringe-figure associations that dogged his father’s political career.

Paul hired Jack Hunter, 39, to help write his book The Tea Party Goes to Washington during his 2010 Senate run. Hunter joined Paul’s office as his social media director in August 2012.

From 1999 to 2012, Hunter was a South Carolina radio shock jock known as the “Southern Avenger.” He has weighed in on issues such as racial pride and Hispanic immigration, and stated his support for the assassination of President Abraham Lincoln.

This is who Ron Paul is. This is who Rand Paul is. They oppose the power of the federal government because the federal government is necessary to provide equal opportunity for oppressed minorities and those who were not born into fortune.

These guys are seditious, racist, indecent fucks.

[hobbit709]

1. He learned well from his daddy.

[geek tragedy]

3. His daddy made money selling racist hate porn to the extra-chromosome right.

Rand thought he could have it both ways.

“When libertarians and paleoconservatives balked at Paul’s remark last January that “any attack on Israel will be treated as an attack on the United States,” Hunter downplayed the comment as a ‘little rhetorical concession’ and said the senator was ‘play[ing] the game.’



‘For every questionable action—support for Mitt Romney, comments about the U.S.’s relationship with Israel … these things do not diminish the overall record of the most libertarian senator since the Founding era,’ wrote Hunter on the Southern Avenger website. ‘Not making these certain diplomatic statements or gestures on occasion, also makes taking these ideas into the mainstream much, much harder. A little rhetorical concession goes a long way.’



‘Some say Rand is not Ron because he is ‘willing to play them game,’ Hunter continued. ‘That’s exactly right. That’s the point—to play it, influence it, and win it as much as you can. The neoconservatives certainly do, to their advantage.’



Hunter has also said that Rand Paul holds the same foreign policy views as his father, Ron Paul.



‘The philosophy hasn’t substantively changed [from Ron Paul to Rand Paul]. The methods and style most certainly have.’”

[arely staircase]

74. he is the "southern avenger"

[xtraxritical]

115. The Paul's carry on where George Wallace left off.

They won't do any better politically either imo.

[Pretzel_Warrior]

2. Ron Paul is loony. But his son, Rand, is an absolute nutter of the first order

everything he says and does gives me the creeps. Like we haven't seen the full spectrum of who this lunatic is. Something about his eyes and his dickish tone with ANYTHING he says.

And I hate how both act like they are full time lecturing all of their listeners.

Hey, asshats. No, you don't know everything. Shut up and listen every now and then.

[Turborama]

51. I've always been creeped out by his eyes and tone

I knew there was definitely something sinister about him the 1st time I came across this horrid little weasel.

And it's not just him and his ratfink pop who think they know everything, their followers do too.

It's all very disturbing and cult like.

Fuck Ron and Rand Paul.

[allin99]

95. You won't find me wish people cross over too often...

it's usually reserved for torturers of people and animals, but this guy takes the cake and i wouldn't mind if he did so literally take a walk off a very tall cliff.

[HappyMe]

4. k&r

Horrible, nutbar family.

[JustAnotherGen]

5. Thank you

I want to crawl out of my skin when I see accolades being thrown at their ilk at DU for any reason whatsoever.

[geek tragedy]

6. Of course, this little tidbit is probably from another GOoper running for Prez.

Who do we think dropped the dime on this guy?

[JustAnotherGen]

15. Christie

But I'm trapped him NJ and I think he is the lowest of the low and the slimiest of the slimy - so when all else fails? I blame Christie!

[geek tragedy]

43. Two gigantic assholes. They deserve each other nt

[Scuba]

7. Is he the one who stepped on the woman's head? Or was another of Paul's goons?

[geek tragedy]

8. That was a low-level brownshirt.

This guy is more of a Goebbels type.

And, yeah, I'm going there with Rand Paul.

[Progressive dog]

9. Exactly, the Paulite "Libertarians"

are

seditious, racist, indecent fucks

.
They are the RW scum who have figured out that if you pretend to be for civil rights while working to eliminate the ability of government to protect those rights from the powerful, you can still win elections. Fortunately, there aren't too many places where the electorate is this easily fooled.

[geek tragedy]

11. When they say "freedom" they mean

low taxes, lots of guns, and the right to discriminate against women, racial/ethnic minorities, and GLBT Americans.

[HiPointDem]

10. two of rand's top 5 lifetime donors: club for growth (jackson stephens jr) & koch industries.

http://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/summary.php?cycle=Career&type=C&cid=N00030836&newMem=N

[12AngryBorneoWildmen]

33. That's "Hair Club for Growth".

[louis-t]

34. I've always wondered about the logic of the name

"Club for Growth" when their original agenda was to remove all moderates from the party. Shouldn't it be "Club for Shrinking the Party"?

[Erose999]

114. They're "growing" their agenda of right wing radicalism

[louis-t]

118. And they're growing it in a big, stinking pile of

cow manure.

[LanternWaste]

12. nyone who says with seriousness, "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" is an idiot...

In this day and age of millions of different agendas, I'm pretty well convinced by observation of results that anyone who says seriously and without irony , "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" is a nitwit and a sub-literate idiot(at best).

Ron Paul, and his little cabal of idiot, racist followers gets zero respect from... well from me , at least. I imagine a coterie of little nincompoops will either defend him, or try to defend him without appearing to.

[zappaman]

13. Dad is a racist as well!

Fuck Ron and Rand Paul!

[radicalliberal]

14. Why am I not surprised?

As a 63-year-old white Texan, I've been painfully aware of this stuff for decades. I tell you, I'm not surprised at all.

I'm not even surprised there are Republicans today who are filled with a fanatical hatred of Lincoln!

And that jerk had the nerve to speak at Howard University!

[IrishAyes]

22. Were he alive today,

Lincoln would not be for the GOP, that's for sure. Even less for the TP.

[radicalliberal]

30. You're absolutely right!

Some TP guy in Arkansas recently called Abraham Lincoln a Marxist!

What a loon!

[louis-t]

35. They are the "Party of Lincoln" except when

they don't wanna be.

[1StrongBlackMan]

16. So now ...

you're gonna slime Paul with details about his character/associations? I mean really ... first snowden, then Greenwald. It's the message dammit!

I hope this is not necessary, but with DU these days ...

[geek tragedy]

17. I recognized you

as a sane person, so the sarcasm tag was unnecessary.

[1StrongBlackMan]

21. I would like to think ...

that would be the consensus here (about Paul, not about me). But these days ... I am not very confident.

[geek tragedy]

23. It's a consensus, but not unanimous either nt

[Zen Democrat]

18. The Paulbots should know that the old man, Ron, was quite the white supremacist.

I'm from his old district. He put out racist newletters and when questioned about it claimed that he didn't write the stuff. But when you mail it out with your name on it, what's the difference? That is one sad racist bunch, the extended Paul family.

[JHB]

29. I liked that too: "I'm not a racist, that was just me defrauding my subscribers"

It wasn't the " 'Anonymous Yahoo Who Says Anything And The Boss Don't Care 'Cause He Already Has Your Money' Newsletter".

[JustAnotherGen]

123. Eh

He edited it. I had to have that argument with one of those people last summer. Their worship of the Birchers is disgusting.

[Initech]

19. Rand Paul: The KKK's favorite senator.

[Whisp]

20. ''These guys are seditious, racist, indecent fucks. ''

Sing it. That is what they are and anyone who thinks they have any good intention or good ideas are gullible fools.

This is what Hero Eddie believes in - the Paul's way.

Fuck Ron Paul and his Eddie.

[Major Nikon]

24. Anyone who thinks a slavery apologist is a champion of liberty is a nutbag

[Lobo27]

25. Glen Beck's best friend..........

Such horrible people, and yet millions think that they can do no wrong....

[awoke_in_2003]

26. Supporting a Paul when the say something you agree with...

is like buying a broken clock because it tells the right time twice a day.

[Thinkingabout]

27. Remember all the hell raising republicans did Rev Wright and Obama must think everything Rev

Wright ever said. Now they will have their own skeletons to try to put back in the closet. It comes back to them over and over, bitch about something and it returns home to them.

[polichick]

28. Can't wait to see the brawl between Paul and Christie...

during the primaries!

[maindawg]

48. lauel and hardy

it will be high entertainment and horror when Paul gets to stand on the debate stage and spout his lunacy. Christie will sound perfectly sane next to these clowns. His moderate stance will enrage the teabillies. And his grotesque obesity will be his biggest challenge to overcome.

[polichick]

69. They both like to be bullies, so they might really go after each other.

[rdharma]

31. OP nails it..... Randian Libertarians are seditious, racist, indecent fucks.

Many of them jumped on the "occupy" band wagon for their own purposes.

Some of their ideas sound very "progressive"....... but they are crazy tea baggers in sheep's' clothing!

BEWARE!

[KrazyinKS]

32. Thank you-I did not know that!

Although it makes sense. With that bit of information, the pieces of the puzzle fit together quite nicely. It's good to be on DU, I read about things here that I see nowhere else. Thanks.

[War Horse]

36. Thank you

This apparently needs to be pointed out on DU from time to time, sadly.

[bluedigger]

37. Social media advisor is the publicist/gatekeeper.

And 2+2 still equals 4.

Fuck Ron and Rand Paul, sideways!

[Comrade Grumpy]

38. I favor civil liberties, a non-interventionist foreign policy, and drug legalization.

Too bad more people with a "D" behind their names don't, but I'm not voting for Rand Paul. That said, I still like it when he afflicts the comfortable by addressing those issues.

[Comrade Grumpy]

39. Oh, and I absolutely hope he seeks the Republican nomination in 2016.

That should blow up the GOP real good.

[geek tragedy]

40. Paul favors civil liberties only for white taxpaying straight men.

There's a non-coincidental link between anti-government ideologies and white/male supremacism.

[rdharma]

41. How about Rand Paul's other policies?

[SunSeeker]

53. Rand Paul's idea of civil liberties would have women being forced to give birth.

His idea of civil liberty means straight white men can do whatever they want...to women and minorities.

[JI7]

59. those who most often scream about civil liberties usually ignore

rights of minorties and women and don't want to acknowledge things like discrimination they face and how we need the govt sometimes to help in getting these rights.

[Shankapotomus]

42. Government is the problem

Such a lame ass cop out for a real political position too.

Surprised they bought it in the Reagan years when it takes all of two seconds of reflection to dispell that myth.

[SunSeeker]

56. There are a lot on DU who believe it, unfortunately. nt

[Shankapotomus]

57. But in their defense

it's probably because they think there's not enough of it, rather than the Republican assertion of there being too much of it.

[SunSeeker]

62. I wish that were true, but no.

They believe the government is out to get you.

[Lawlbringer]

44. I've always said that Ron Paul is crazy

but Rand is not.

He is even worse than that. Whereas his father seemingly believes his own drivel, I firmly believe that Rand is a panderer of the tallest order. He "plays the game" as any politician could be expected to, but he panders to the worst kinds of people, and knowingly feeds hate and sows distrust in order to further himself.

It's like he's going for GOP Eagle Scout.

[maindawg]

45. Kentucky had an opportunity to elect an intelligent legislator

But they chose Paul. A creepy fake eye doctor. I bigoted dim witted slimey little fuck. So the image of the frontiersman the pioneer the warrior from Kentucky boils down to a klanish little sniveling coward. I would be so embarrassed if I lived there.
These red states are all debtor states. They thumb their noses at the civilized states while they cnnot pay their own way. When will we say enough. If you are a debtor state you loose certan rights. How about a law that states no state can take more than they give the federal govt. Let them learn to run their state responsibly. I am willing to bet , they would elect a different class of legislator.

[Behind the Aegis]

46. But..but..but...sometimes racist, anti-Semitic, homophobes are OK!

You are just attacking the messenger! SCREECH! Broken Clocks RULE!


Just in case:

[BlancheSplanchnik]

47. goddammit, I'm kicking this

Bugged me like crazy when I saw an R. P. bumpersticker yesterday.

I wonder about people who go for him....

[JohnnyLib2]

49. Kicking from KY

[JohnnyLib2]

87. Kicking, with ariticle in the Louisville paper today, Wednesday.

http://www.courier-journal.com/article/20130709/NEWS01/307090055/Rand-Paul-staffer-expressed-support-Abraham-Lincoln-assassin-wore-Confederate-flag-mask?nclick_check=1

[Blue Owl]

50. I'm OK, You're OK -- but Rand is OKKK

n/t

[Android3.14]

52. A person who supports legal marijuana

Isn't necessarily someone you would want to share a bowl with.

[Bluenorthwest]

72. Who says he supports legal marijuana? I hear that sort of thing repeated, I think it is false.

If you assume that because he is a 'libertarian' I would recommend checking your facts.

[Android3.14]

77. Oops. That was his father. Sorry.

I wouldn't even offer him a bowl.

[Peacetrain]

54. Sort of like.. I am a vegetarian (and I am) Hitler was a vegetarian (so some say)

so he was not all bad????

Yep.. got to look at the entire package.. and just because you share one or two things in common, it is most certainly not someone you want to promote to anyone else (the Pauls)..

[Ms. Toad]

121. Except the way it is being applied on DU recently -

is I am a vegetarian, Hitler was a vegetarian, therefore being a vegetarian makes me all the things Hitler was.

I really don't see any significant number of people saying they support Rand Paul.

I do see (over and over again) some of us who happen to oppose certain policies which Rand Paul also opposes being called racists, or libertarian, or right wing (because Rand Paul is). Even a broken analog clock is right twice a day - that doesn't make the functioning clock worthless just because twice a day it agrees with the broken one.

[DirkGently]

55. And yet the NSA scandal is still a valid issue. Craaazy.

[SunSeeker]

60. The OP doesn't even mention the NSA.

[DirkGently]

63. Super. n/t

[geek tragedy]

66. You still Standing With Rand? nt

[DirkGently]

67. You still against the ACLU?

This is very specious, bad-faith stuff, geek.

And you know it.

Seriously, what actual argument do you think you're making, and what good -- for whom -- do you think it represents?

[geek tragedy]

68. I was discussing Rand Paul's psychotic racism when you came in to deflect

that criticism.

[DirkGently]

119. No. I came in to accuse you of a sideways, dishonest attack on the NSA scandal

If that's not what you were doing, by all means, straighten me out and agree that the Paul family's racism does not somehow undermine the very legitimate, very serious, not-going-away-anytime-soon NSA spying disaster due to whatever coincidental support any of them may have thrown at the issue.

[geek tragedy]

120. Rand Paul's racism has nothing to do with the NSA story. Kthxbai. nt

[DirkGently]

122. So glad we were able to clear that up. n/t

[quinnox]

58. it sucks that there is no high profile Democratic politician acting as a counter to

guys like Paul, who get a lot of face time on news shows, interviews, and so on. Where is the Democrat raising hell about civil liberties and spying? I know that Wyden tries, but he is pretty low profile.

[arely staircase]

75. the southern avenger loves liberty

for the white man

[geek tragedy]

82. I know, who else will stand for heterosexual rights and the unborn?

Amazing how Rand Paul's Routine somehow outweighs the actual work done by Wyden.

[SunSeeker]

61. K & R

[alp227]

64. a couple points,

The Washington Free Beacon = right wing blog site. interesting how THAT website dug this info up before mother jones or think progress.

and I wonder if Medea Benjamin, who's Jewish, still STANDS WITH (RACIST) RAND?

[Bluenorthwest]

65. I can't fathom how anyone could be surprised by this. This is 'Water Is Wet' level news.

His freaking father is one of the most extensively documented racists and homphobes this country has known in recent times. The Ron Paul newsletter was frightening material, there was never any question that these guys are bonkers in many unsavory ways.
I also really can't fathom the amount of attention he gets on DU, he's a Senator from Kentucky, one State away he looks and sounds like a character being done by Will Farrell without strong direction. What is that on his head? What's the atavistic decadence theme in the lingo?
What's the largest percentage his Daddy ever got in a Republican Primary? I don't expect much more out of Rand. He can't carry States where parody is not seen as a personality type. He's eccentric on top of the racism, regionalism and whatnot.
And yet he seems to be the great fear of a good deal of DU. And his nature as a right wing retro racist seems less than established as well, which shocks me

[felix_numinous]

70. I never saw one post on DU supporting Rand Paul

Maybe someone an come up with a link. I may have missed it.

This is a very goofy meme to me, like it was manufactured on FOX. Strange days around here.

[whatchamacallit]

71. There's this one banned fool they keep digging up as proof

other than that, zip. I'd venture the ratio of posts alluding to RP support on DU to actual supporters is about 1000:1.

[Bluenorthwest]

73. I have also never once seen any post on DU supporting Rand Paul, who is a racist Republican

so it is not a surprise that he has zero support on DU.

[geek tragedy]

96. There's a Rand/Ron Paul supporter in this thread.

Just because they're not super obvious about it doesn't mean they don't exist.

[reusrename]

76. Me neither.

What I see a lot of is this meme that if the Paulbots support something then you must be against it or else you are not a good Obama supporter.

Something quite different than what is claimed in the OP, but I can understand that this difference is probably completely lost on some of them.

[geek tragedy]

81. See below, people will attack critics of Rand Paul. nt

[David__77]

78. And yet, 95% of the Republican Party is worse than him, by far.

That is the true tragedy.

[DesMoinesDem]

79. This attack is coming from the right. The neocons are terrified of Rand Paul.

[geek tragedy]

80. Odd reaction. nt

[DesMoinesDem]

84. Odd that you posted an article from a neocon website created by a neocon think tank

The Washington Free Beacon, a project of the 501(c)4 Center for American Freedom, is a nonprofit online newspaper that began publication on February 7, 2012. Dedicated to uncovering the stories that the professional left hopes will never see the light of day, the Free Beacon produces in-depth and investigative reporting on a wide range of issues, including public policy, government affairs, international security, and media criticism. Whether it’s exposing cronyism, dissecting the relationship between the progressive movement and the mainstream media, finding out just who is shaping our domestic and foreign policy and why, or highlighting the threats to American security and peace in a dangerous world, the Free Beacon is committed to serving the public interest by reporting news and information that currently is not being fully covered by other news organizations.

[geek tragedy]

86. Funny, you attack the messenger when the message is unflattering to Rand Paul.

Last edited Wed Jul 10, 2013, 07:35 AM - Edit history (4)

You have a similar record of attacking those who dis Ron Paul.

And how you angrily defended the honor of Tea Party groups while pimping the IRS 'scandal.'

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=3193529

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022839564#post1

The exact opposite of your gleeful bashing of Obama.

Fascinating. A person who defends Rand Paul and hates Obama, and poses as a liberal Democrat, while pushing Tea Party talking points. Who never discussed Romney except to defend him.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021578451#post90

And who defended wage cuts for union workers.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=1831320



People said there were no Paulbots at DU. They may want to reconsider. You kept up the facade for a while. But now you are exposed.

[ProSense]

88. Good finds, and

transparency: http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=profile&uid=270145&sub=trans

[geek tragedy]

90. There's tons of Paulhumpitude and Paulogism in that one's history

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=439&topic_id=1753265&mesg_id=1753357

Lets pretend Paul won the presidency and Democrats took control of both houses.
Paul has said the first thing he would do is end the wars and bring the troops home from all our bases. With a Democratic congress he couldn't touch domestic spending unless the Democrats agreed. Sounds pretty good to me. Am I missing something?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=439&topic_id=1753265&mesg_id=1753870

What racist policies does he advocate?
Could any of those pass a Democratic congress? What's more racist than bombing Arabs in the middle east for no reason? Does that make Obama a racist?

People like to just throw out 'he's racist' as if some newsletter from 2 decades ago that he may have written is more important than the lives of tens of thousands of innocent people and hundreds of American. So which one is more important to you: a newsletter or thousands of lives?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022312235#post2

DeMoinesDem agrees with the rw CEO of WHole Foods that Obamacare is fascism:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022201466#post51



Long history of whining about attacks on Ron and Rand Paul:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002184576#post60

Plays the gun nut game of "how dare you mislabel a component of a gun"

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022156388#post220

[JustAnotherGen]

124. Thanks geek

Very telling.

[DesMoinesDem]

89. Funny, I didn't do any of what you accused me of

And your links show that, no matter how much you try to spin it. In this case the first thing I noticed when going to the site was that it was a neocon site, so that's where my comment was directed.

So instead of distracting from the point why don't you answer why you are posting an article from a neocon website? That seems like a strange website to be posted at a progressive forum. Got anything from the weekly standard you want to post?

[geek tragedy]

91. You have never once criticized Ron Paul, or Rand Paul, or Mitt Romney.

Instead, you leap to their defense.

To the point where you got all poutraged because people suggested that Occupy wasn't a welcome place for Paulbots:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002163895#post5

And you have a 100% track record of hating on Obama.

You spout rightwing talking points,

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=1018427

promote and defend rightwing monsters, and have nothing but hatred for the current Democratic President.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=3215455


There's much more reason to think you're a Ron/Rand Paul Republican than that you're a Democrat.

You have for years now aggressively attacked people who criticize your BFFs Ron and Rand Paul. You have never once objected to any criticism of Obama. You have never said a single positive thing about Obama, just as you have never posted negative commentary about any Republican trying to defeat Obama.

Including Ron and Rand Paul.

You are obvious. Your posting history is 100% anti-Democrat and 100% pro Paul family.

[DesMoinesDem]

92. Wow. None of my post have come anywhere close to doing what you describe.

No, I am not an Obama apologist like you. I believe the best way to make the Democratic party better is to criticize it when it strays from principles it purports to have. I'm sorry you have a problem with that. You would rather defend every action of Obama and waste your time posting articles from neocon websites attacking republicans. I don't think people that visit this website need to be told how bad Republicans are. They already know. That to me is a waste of time.

[geek tragedy]

93. You are 100% pro-Ron Paul, 100% pro-Rand Paul. 100% anti-Obama.

You think that your hatred of Obama is some kind of immunization from your pimping the Paul family here.

You cannot point to a single post in your posting history where you criticized Ron or Rand Paul, or even agreed with criticism of them.

Similarly, you cannot point to a single post in your posting history where you praise something done by Obama, or even agreed with praise of him.

You overestimate how clever you have been in hiding your true colors, Paul fan.

For the record: there are some very principled people who support the Pauls. But, lying about it is not honorable.

[DesMoinesDem]

97. Well if you say so it has to be true!

I guess if I was a real Democrat like you I would be posting articles from a Bill Kristol affiliated neocon website.

[geek tragedy]

98. And it has 75 recs, because it factually shows a Republican being a racist.

Of course, you've defended the Pauls against charges of racism in the past, so here you are trying to attack the messenger to defend your heroes.

But, as long as people deny that their are Paul supporters here, you are useful in that you directly disprove that.

Amazing how you have 521 posts on DU3, and not one of them is anti-Republican or pro-Obama. Not a single one.

The closest you get is attacking rivals of the Paul nutters inside the Republican party.

[DesMoinesDem]

99. Well as I explained to you before

attacking Republicans on a Democratic site is a waste of time. No one here will vote for a Republican ever. I would rather try to improve the Democratic party by holding it to principles it purports to have. That involves calling Obama out...a lot. And believe it or not I think that Democrats should work with Republicans on some issues when they share the same progressive beliefs.

You on the other hand are here for the circle jerk which in my view accomplishes nothing and is a total waste of time. "Obama is always right, Republicans suck!" That, or your some neocon troll that is trying to get Democrats to accept drones, spying, assassinations, war, etc.

[geek tragedy]

100. "No one here will vote for a Republican ever."

Your presence disproves that.

Given your climate change "skepticism"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=375573

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=375698

http://betterment.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=439&topic_id=2263187&mesg_id=2263808


and NRA talking points

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php/www.scn.org/www.travelblog.org/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=118x470073#470082

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=340650

and Ron Paul love, it's very clear why you post 100% positive for Republicans and 100% negative for Obama.

You do not stand for democratic ideas---you stand for Republican politicians and against Democratic ones. Moreover, you often push rightwing talking points on the IRS, climate change, guns etc.

If it walks like a Ron Paul Republican, talks like a Ron Paul Republican, and posts like a Ron Paul Republican . . .

[geek tragedy]

103. You said you preferred Ron Paul over Obama

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=3215991

I don't believe you when you say you never voted for a Republican.

There is literally nothing in your entire posting history that would make a rational person think you're a Democrat rather than a ratfucking Ron Paul troll.

[DesMoinesDem]

104. Nope, never voted for a Republican not would I, no matter how much you spin.

As I said, I want a Democratic majority in both houses and someone actually anti-war in the WH.
You on the other hand don't actually have any principles. You may be a Democrat, but you are not a progressive. Go Obama! Circle jerk!

[geek tragedy]

105. Yes, you said you preferred Ron Paul over Obama in the White House.

It's right there in black and white.

You say "it would be good to have a solidly Democratic congress and Ron Paul in the White House" somoene else said "it would be better to have Obama and a solidly Democratic Congress" and then you said "Obama had a solidly Democratic Congress and bad stuff happened, we need 'someone anti-war' in there, an obvious reference to Ron Paul.

You are transparent. Stop lying.

[DesMoinesDem]

106. Sorry, I wouldn't vote for Ron Paul.

[geek tragedy]

107. Your entire posting history at DU says otherwise.

I'll believe your record over your self-serving claim here. You have never once even disagreed with Ron Paul at DU.

[DesMoinesDem]

108. I'm a principled progressive Democrat, not a partisan Democrat apologist.

That you think that makes me a Republican just goes to show the sad state of progressive principles currently in the Democratic Party. The current president supports drones, massive spying, war, attacking whistleblowers, etc. Maybe you should be calling him a Republican.

[geek tragedy]

109. So prinicpled that you deny climate change, push NRA talking points,

have a 100% record of supporting/defending Romney and the Paul family, and have never once expressed support for a single thing done by a Democratic President or passed by a Democratic Congress.

Not fooling anyone.

[DesMoinesDem]

110. If you say so.

[geek tragedy]

111. No, you have said so.

Last word is yours, Paul fan.

[DesMoinesDem]

113. Have fun reading your neocon websites. Looking forward to the next Weekly Standard article.

[geek tragedy]

102. You're also on the record preferring Ron Paul to Obama in the White House

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=340650

Lets pretend Paul won the presidency and Democrats took control of both houses.
Paul has said the first thing he would do is end the wars and bring the troops home from all our bases. With a Democratic congress he couldn't touch domestic spending unless the Democrats agreed. Sounds pretty good to me. Am I missing something?

after someone says that they're prefer Obama with a solidly Democratic Congress:

Obama was elected with a solidly Democratic congress.
He tripled the number of troops in Afghanistan, increased the drone attacks, and started a war in Libya. We need more than just a Democrat in the White House. We need someone that is anti-war.

So, yeah, you would vote Republican if it was Paul vs Obama.

[davidpdx]

132. Six posts hidden in 90 days

Well you are on your way out...

[geek tragedy]

94. P.S. Fuck Rand Paul, fuck Ron Paul, fuck their supporters and apologists and enablers at DU,. nt

[JustAnotherGen]

125. +++++++++

Throw the mic geek tragedy.

[Bobbie Jo]

130. .

Yes, not fooling anyone.

[SidDithers]

131. Nailed it...nt

Sid

[arely staircase]

83. You are right. The GOP establishment is terrified of both Ron and Rand Paul

If their libertarian wing takes over the GOP, the Democrats will be unbeatable for a generation.

[Enthusiast]

85. Rand Paul is a genuine POS.

Just like hundreds of others in the GOP.

[Erose999]

112. Somehow the racists in the Paulbot organization float to positions of authority. Remember Ron Paul's

newsletter editor who was a racist?

I would suspect any rightwinger in politics probably has some racists working in their organization. But with the Pauls these people are not on the fringes, they're at the top of the hierarchy with positions like "social media director" and "newsletter editor". Wheras even Jesse Helms would push a type like the "Southern Avenger" down to some low level position like stuffing envelopes, making copies or something, the Pauls actually choose these racist dooshbags to speak for them.

[KrazyinKS]

116. Remember Ron Paul named his son after Ayn Rand-thus Rand Paul

Her whole philosophy has undertones of elitism , complete lack of empathy for the downtrodden. I think that is a strange philosophy to worship. That is who these guys are, even when we agree with his stance on military intervention and over expansion. Maybe he opposes it for a completely different reason, just because he doesn't care.

[The Wizard]

117. Rand (Kim Jong)Paul

is a bigoted senator who could only get elected in a slave state. But that's not news.

[Pholus]

126. This crap passes for debate?

We have an important issue. Our own government wants to do big data collection and start auto terrorist detection never mind they haven't figured out what a terrorist is yet.

The rah rah crowd thinks we sound like Paulbots for seeing any problem with the issue.

The idiots they then start posting what an assclown the Pauls are.

Like that is a revelation for them? I guess we are supposed to be offended or something.

Note how we don't have to discuss the actual issue anymore.

"MISSION ACCOMPLISHED" (tm)

[geek tragedy]

127. Sorry you're offended by attacks on Rand Paul. Perhaps you're on the wrong board. nt

[Pholus]

128. Aha! The "trap is sprung" right?

AREN'T you just special. The only connection between the Pauls and I is in your head.

Oh by the way. If, as a fellow Democrat, I ever do post something you agree with DO NOT POST IN SUPPORT OF ME. I don't want to be tarred by association with someone who thinks they successfully "outed" me as some kind of Paul supporter with this dreck.

KThxbye.

[geek tragedy]

138. This is a thread calling out a rightwing fucknut for being a racist.

You came in here defending him by attacking the messenger and trying to hijack it into an NSA discussion.

You all can't help yourselves. Someone says bad things about Rand and Ron, and you come barreling in sputtering idiotic outrage.

You called people who criticize Rand Paul "idiots."

So, yeah, you outed yourself.

[Pholus]

139. Oh. We were ACTUALLY playing Simon Says!

Yes. You unearthed my treachery. How clever etc etc.

10 threads (or more. Too bored to do more than one page of inane streetcorner style rants) creating an artificial equivalence between fellow Democrats who disagree with you on a major issue and then a throwaway about how bad Rand Paul is.

Yes I fell for your clever subtle change and didn't realize that you didn't say Simon Says. After all your history is to use libertarian as a throwaway insult when you ran out of useful things to say.

I just figured this time you were out of useful things to say before you started typing.

The only idiots I see are the ones who think calling fellow DUers libertarians over one large issue is a valid tactic.

[geek tragedy]

140. This thread is about Rand Paul being a racist ass, not the NSA.

You came in here trying to deflect the criticism of Rand Paul.

It must really bother you to see him criticized.

[Pholus]

141. Not nearly as much as you imagine.

Paul is certainly a racist. Then again that term has been misused on DU a lot lately.

But I digress. Please tell me more about I really think.

I need the laugh.

[Pholus]

129. Plus you bring the most interesting ads here.

You chanting Paul Paul Paul like some kind of mantra raises the term relevance in ad placement.

It is bad enough to have to suffer through your idiocy and it is even worse to then see a ad plug for Ron Paul come up because of your irrational obsession about him.

Then again that brings Paul money in to DU so carry on with your fantasies. Perhaps you can start insinuating that DU is a front for libertarian money. It has as much truth as the rest of your insights.

[Renew Deal]

134. That person has been here since 2002

And they are not "offended by attacks on Rand Paul." They are complaining about the poor discourse including people telling eachother to go f themselves in this thread.

Distorting an 11 year members comments, suggesting they are a Paulite and telling them to leave is wrong!

[geek tragedy]

136. That person came in here tossing insults

because I criticized Rand Paul.

He called people who criticize Paul 'idiots.'

Phuckem.

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

135. So now all negative talk about Rand/Ron Paul should be suspended?

Because it makes you feel uneasy that it might offend some allies?

There have been several new revelations about who Rand Paul hires as his advisers. Apparently this offends you. My suggestion is don't click on the thread, or don't take it so personally if we are to believe you think Rand Paul is a racist piece of shit. Which he is.

[LeftishBrit]

133. Yes, and the general motto of the likes of the Paul family is 'Fuck the poor!' (and the sick,

elderly, very young, etc.)

[Scurrilous]

137. Thanks.