It's 10pm in Moscow, do you know where your Snowden is? Venezuela tweets

[flamingdem]

Embassy of Venezuela ?@VzlaEmbassyUS 57m

Venezuela Awaits Snowden’s Response Regarding Asylum

https://twitter.com/VzlaEmbassyUS

* The Venezuelan government just tweeted the above, looks like they haven't heard anything. The
deadline for Edward Snowden to accept Venezuela's offer is midnight.
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Elías Jaua, Venezuela’s Foreign Minister, declared on Saturday that the country has yet to receive a response from Edward Snowden regarding President Nicolás Maduro’s offer of political asylum. Snowden is accused of espionage for having revealed the world’s biggest internet and telephone surveillance system.

Jaua also said he will be in touch with officials from the Russian Federation to evaluate the situation.

In response to statements from rightwing leaders who criticized the offer of humanitarian asylum for Snowden, the Foreign Minister noted Venezuela’s history of protecting political refugees and explained that asylum would be based on international law.

“Venezuela has a historical tradition of granting asylum to political refugees throughout the world. This is not new—it has deepened during the Bolivarian Revolution, but it is an inherent tradition of our nation. . . . If this young man is persecuted for having revealed systematic espionage … we have the right to evaluate, consider and accept a request for asylum,” Jaua explained.

No sé



http://venezuela-us.org/2013/07/08/venezuela-awaits-snowden%E2%80%99s-response-regarding-asylum/

[longship]

1. This is damned peculiar.

Snowden doesn't have many options, from what I've been reading. I find it strange that he would apply for asylum to multiple countries and then, when it's openly offered, he doesn't jump at the chance.

If he's waiting for a better offer, he may end up waiting for a long time in a USA prison cell. He 's not going to be able to stay at Sheremetyevo forever. I imagine Putin may be tiring of this affair.

This just doesn't make any sense at all. I can't make any logical sense of this.

[flamingdem]

2. He has two hours left to respond. It's already very late to be working on this

so one has to wonder if he's even able to communicate?

Putin knows what's going on I bet!

It's rather a slap in the face if he's not responding because he has a better offer.

He does need to let them know.

My theory is that Cuba is not amenable to having its airport used for a stopover.

Here's that thread again with the Wikileaks tweet pressuring Raul Castro:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=3196256

[Romulus Quirinus]

3. It may be a subtle way for the Asylum Troika to test his ability to freely communicate. nt

[flamingdem]

14. I think this is very possible

Putin may be forcing him to communicate through Russian means, so he knows exactly what's going on.

That also could be what he's giving to the US. Putin might be helping in that regard, keeping the US up to speed.

[randome]

17. Maybe he locked himself in the refrigerator to avoid NSA bugs.

That and his red hood may make communication difficult.

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[font color="blue"][center]The truth doesn’t always set you free.
Sometimes it builds a bigger cage around the one you’re already in.[/center][/font]
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[flamingdem]

18. That makes me think of another possibility: he has epilepsy, maybe he had a break down?

He takes some very strong drug and who knows where he is healthwise, physical and emotional.

Hello Nurse Olga!

[longship]

10. According to an earlier post, Raul Castro is willing to let him stop there.

Saw that this AM here on DU.

So all he needs is to say "yes" and I imagine things would happen fairly quickly.

And I agree, if he does not answer that would be an insult. He cannot afford to do that. Then, who would want to respond to his pleas?

Somebody is fucking up badly here.

[alcibiades_mystery]

4. I find it more strange that they'd put a time limit on the offer

What for?

[flamingdem]

13. Maduros said that he thinks he's being "manipulated" so he gets that it's complicated

and maybe they are concerned that he's a CIA guy or any number of things.

I don't think they're pressuring Putin though, they seem to be on the same page with him.

Perhaps they're pressuring Wikileaks.

The optics for Snowden are poor in Venezuela, lots of spying on phone calls, poor womens rights etc.

[alcibiades_mystery]

15. 24 Business Hours!!!!

[flamingdem]

16. Did they say that? Or that's the excuse if they

don't get an answer!

Oh lo siento no entiendo

[randome]

5. Is it possible he didn't know what six countries he applied for recently?

Wikileaks seems to want to run the show. Maybe they handed him six pages and said "Sign here."

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[font color="blue"][center]The truth doesn’t always set you free.
Sometimes it builds a bigger cage around the one you’re already in.[/center][/font]
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[allin99]

8. He's got 10+ hours until it's no longer Monday in vnzla

[flamingdem]

11. Oh, you're right, they didn't specify Moscow time

So he has a little wiggle room left

[allin99]

6. It's only 1pm in Vnzla though and it's he who is saying until Monday.

[MADem]

7. Very odd. Doesn't this offer have an expiration date...like..today?

Here are the things I think are strange:

NO SNOWDEN--Hasn't been seen since Hong Kong. We have written communiques purportedly written by him, but he's no where to be found.

NO SNOWDEN HELPER(S)--He doesn't even have a spokesperson coming out and speaking to the press.

GREENWALD--Seems like he's been pushed off the story and is back in the pack with the rest of the people who don't know shit.

ASSANGE--The way he stuck his beak in this whole mess, and started making pronouncements (to say nothing of the fact that the pass that got Snowden from Hong Kong to Russia came from the embassy where he is holed up) makes me wonder. Did Assange engineer this whole thing? Did Snowden contact Assange when he was told by personnel that there was a "problem" with his security clearance and he knew his days were numbered?

So where is Snowden? Why isn't he saying "Thanks, Venezuela! I'll take that dandy offer!" or "How gracious of you to offer, but I'm still weighing my options..." It's just rude to say nothing...unless he's being held somewhere where he CAN'T say anything--and Maduro is just an actor on a stage, jerking on a chain at the behest of Putin...?

[allin99]

9. This is what i can't understand.

So where is Snowden? Why isn't he saying "Thanks, Venezuela! I'll take that dandy offer!" or "How gracious of you to offer, but I'm still weighing my options..." It's just rude to say nothing...unless he's being held somewhere where he CAN'T say anything--and Maduro is just an actor on a stage, jerking on a chain at the behest of Putin...?

Something isn't right. Cuz he actually applied to those 2 countries, in writing. so what up??

[flamingdem]

12. It's all very odd. The least complicated idea is that he is still deciding

The most complicated idea is that Putin is getting ready to turn him over to the Yanks!

[railsback]

19. Snowden would have a better chance of survival in the U.S.

At least he'd have protection. The Venezuelan Rightwing has gained a lot of momentum, and with impending sanctions levied on Venezuela if they somehow miraculously get Snowden inside, he'd be the target of a lot of ire. Wouldn't last a week.

[kentuck]

20. Perhaps they have removed his computer?

and his means to communicate?

[HipChick]

21. wifi not working

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