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liberal N proud

(60,339 posts)
Mon Jul 8, 2013, 06:50 AM Jul 2013

What the media wants you to believe about the San Francisco air disaster

If you have been listening to various reports about the crash landing of the Asiana flight in San Francisco, you have been hearing them repeat over and over one common theme.

"Plane crashes are survivable"

This for some reason is the primary propaganda the media is pushing in this incident so far.

Yes, some plane crashes are survivable, but do we need to have that beaten into us?

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What the media wants you to believe about the San Francisco air disaster (Original Post) liberal N proud Jul 2013 OP
And now a word from our sponsor, Disney vacations and cruise lines Kolesar Jul 2013 #1
Yes, Disney still own ABC liberal N proud Jul 2013 #4
My Cleveland NBC affiliate assured me that more people get hurt on escalators Kolesar Jul 2013 #6
They dont want the airline industry to suffer davidn3600 Jul 2013 #2
Why would "the media" give a shit one way or another about "the airline industry"? Nye Bevan Jul 2013 #12
So are car crashes. So are motorcycle crashes. Atman Jul 2013 #3
Between Sully's flight and this, shows safety and wellness. Shows fed government regulations good!nt graham4anything Jul 2013 #5
"wellness" cherokeeprogressive Jul 2013 #13
Is the only proper, unpropagandized, eyes-open reaction is to be terrified of everything? Silent3 Jul 2013 #7
Yes air travel is safe, I fly all the time, just pointing out the common theme in the propaganda liberal N proud Jul 2013 #9
Air travel is safe Mz Pip Jul 2013 #11
ffs conspiracy on top of conspiracy theory NT sigmasix Jul 2013 #8
Pointing out a common theme in the propaganda suggest conspiracy? liberal N proud Jul 2013 #10
I quickly watched all channels this morning, this is the only issue being talked about, why? Because graham4anything Jul 2013 #14
But empirical evidence is on their side malaise Jul 2013 #15
Hmm... ananda Jul 2013 #16
so are justin beiber concerts, yet people still go to them. Javaman Jul 2013 #17
Because 20 years ago everybody on that plane would be dead. Recursion Jul 2013 #18
1989 crash 285 passengers on DC-10 185 people survived liberal N proud Jul 2013 #19

Kolesar

(31,182 posts)
1. And now a word from our sponsor, Disney vacations and cruise lines
Mon Jul 8, 2013, 06:55 AM
Jul 2013

IIRC, Disney owned ABC network, or they did a decade ago.

Kolesar

(31,182 posts)
6. My Cleveland NBC affiliate assured me that more people get hurt on escalators
Mon Jul 8, 2013, 07:08 AM
Jul 2013

...than in airplane crashes. Escalators don't carry a thousand pounds of kerosene in their bellies, though.

 

davidn3600

(6,342 posts)
2. They dont want the airline industry to suffer
Mon Jul 8, 2013, 06:55 AM
Jul 2013

Funny how so many people are afraid of flying yet have no problem getting in their car to go to work every day. The chances of you dying in a car crash is extremely higher than dying in a plane crash.

Its got to be a control thing. Maybe you feel like you have more control when you are on the ground than in the air.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
12. Why would "the media" give a shit one way or another about "the airline industry"?
Mon Jul 8, 2013, 08:13 AM
Jul 2013

A media executive wants people to watch his channel as opposed to his competitor's. What's his incentive to sugarcoat anything?

Atman

(31,464 posts)
3. So are car crashes. So are motorcycle crashes.
Mon Jul 8, 2013, 06:56 AM
Jul 2013

If you crash just right. But had the Asiana flight crashed nose-first into that sea wall, instead of clipping it with its tail, something tells me we wouldn't have seen quite so many people walking away.

Silent3

(15,256 posts)
7. Is the only proper, unpropagandized, eyes-open reaction is to be terrified of everything?
Mon Jul 8, 2013, 07:35 AM
Jul 2013

To treat risk as binary safe/not-safe thing instead of realizing that air travel actually is pretty damn safe?

To be sure that everything is an organized plot to keep selling you stuff that hurts you?

liberal N proud

(60,339 posts)
9. Yes air travel is safe, I fly all the time, just pointing out the common theme in the propaganda
Mon Jul 8, 2013, 07:46 AM
Jul 2013

They seem to think they have to tell us this for some reason. It stood out to me as odd that they want to push this piece of information.

Mz Pip

(27,452 posts)
11. Air travel is safe
Mon Jul 8, 2013, 07:56 AM
Jul 2013

I don't think there is some secret plot to convince travelers of that fact.

I doubt there is any significant drop in air travel after a major air disaster. I fly back to SFO to tomorrow and haven't thought once about canceling.

 

graham4anything

(11,464 posts)
14. I quickly watched all channels this morning, this is the only issue being talked about, why? Because
Mon Jul 8, 2013, 08:20 AM
Jul 2013

because people are happy that so many survived and only 2 have died and are on edge about the injured.

Because people care about people and people need people.

And it reminds one, how it was Ronald Reagan that ruined the airline industry in the first place
and why anyone ever voted for him over Jimmy Carter in 1980, I have no idea.

ananda

(28,873 posts)
16. Hmm...
Mon Jul 8, 2013, 08:28 AM
Jul 2013

It all depends on the crash.

In this particular crash in SF, some survived and some did not.
Some came out relatively well, some did not.

In the Alaska crash the next day, nobody survived.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
18. Because 20 years ago everybody on that plane would be dead.
Mon Jul 8, 2013, 09:31 AM
Jul 2013

There's been a lot of improvements in safety technology since then, and this was pretty amazing.

liberal N proud

(60,339 posts)
19. 1989 crash 285 passengers on DC-10 185 people survived
Mon Jul 8, 2013, 09:56 AM
Jul 2013

It was a much more sever crash where the plane cartwheeled and exploded on impact. It was miraculous that anyone survived that crash.

http://www.airdisaster.com/special/special-ua232.shtml

It is the crew that makes the difference more than technology, the seats in a plane are the same seats, the restraints have not changed. Some newer materials that are more flame resistant maybe. But it is crew training that makes the difference today. You just hope that if it ever happens on a flight you are on, the crew is well trained and that the people do not panic.



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