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babylonsister

(171,090 posts)
Sun Jul 7, 2013, 05:55 PM Jul 2013

So, This is Their Plan?

http://www.boomantribune.com/story/2013/7/7/113040/3096

So, This is Their Plan?

by BooMan
Sun Jul 7th, 2013 at 11:30:40 AM EST


The House Republicans are hilarious. To avoid taking the blame for another debt ceiling fiasco, they have devised a plan that avoids the all-or-nothing feel of prior negotiations. The president can select from a menu and order a small, medium or large.

The large includes implementing Paul Ryan's Medicare voucherization plan.

The medium includes taking the food out of poor children's mouths by slashing the SNAP, block-granting Medicaid, and implementing Chained CPI.

The small would means-test Social Security and raise the retirement age, while getting rid of some agricultural subsidies.


If the president chooses the large, the House Republicans will authorize enough debt payment to cover the remainder of Obama's presidency. If he chooses the small, they'll authorize a few more months of debt spending.

The president says he won't negotiate on debt payments since the debt results from spending authorized by Congress.

If the House wants to spend the rest of the year demanding that Obama privatize Medicare, block-grant Medicaid, raise the Social Security retirement age, and starve poor children, I don't think the Democrats will object. "Please proceed, congressmen."
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So, This is Their Plan? (Original Post) babylonsister Jul 2013 OP
he should tell the house to go fuck itself. spanone Jul 2013 #1
They authorized the spending nobodyspecial Jul 2013 #2
People need to start paying attention to stuff like this, Benton D Struckcheon Jul 2013 #3
And the dems should start MAKING people pay attention Doctor_J Jul 2013 #8
The same old war against the poor... awoke_in_2003 Jul 2013 #4
Yes, please proceed assholes. Cha Jul 2013 #5
K&R! sheshe2 Jul 2013 #6
I agree with spanone northoftheborder Jul 2013 #7
Good writing! I hope this bites them in the ass. KittyWampus Jul 2013 #9
No negotiation with terrorists. Jasana Jul 2013 #10
Wow, you turned this around quickly. babylonsister Jul 2013 #11
+1 truebluegreen Jul 2013 #12
Pardon my error but I am just one pissed off liberal right now... Jasana Jul 2013 #13
Hmmm hootinholler Jul 2013 #14
Well, I definitely know I'm pissed off... Jasana Jul 2013 #15

nobodyspecial

(2,286 posts)
2. They authorized the spending
Sun Jul 7, 2013, 06:03 PM
Jul 2013

Now it's time to pay the bills, deadbeats! If they wanted these changes, they needed to negotiate *before* authorizing spending. Instead, they are holding the American people and the programs that help them hostage. I hope Obama and Dems frame this better so even political novices and the clueless see what's going on. There is no hope for the Foxbots.

And, no, Obama should not negotiate political terrorists.

Benton D Struckcheon

(2,347 posts)
3. People need to start paying attention to stuff like this,
Sun Jul 7, 2013, 06:24 PM
Jul 2013

which is actually important, rather than over the stuff that's being obsessed over around here.
This, and the gutting of the Voting Rights Act. Between the two we're facing some serious battles in the next year and a half before the Congressional elections.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
8. And the dems should start MAKING people pay attention
Sun Jul 7, 2013, 08:35 PM
Jul 2013
don't negotiate with these terrorists. The Dem caucus in the House needs to call this bluff before it gets to the president's desk.

Jasana

(490 posts)
10. No negotiation with terrorists.
Sun Jul 7, 2013, 08:45 PM
Jul 2013

If the Dems haven't got this message by now then they're idiots.

As far as I'm concerned I've done my job by now helping to elect Warren and Markey to the Senate. The Dems get no more free votes from me if they don't walk the talk. End of discussion.

Jasana

(490 posts)
13. Pardon my error but I am just one pissed off liberal right now...
Sun Jul 7, 2013, 09:56 PM
Jul 2013

At least I think I am. The repubs have twisted the word so much that I'm not sure what it means anymore.

Jasana

(490 posts)
15. Well, I definitely know I'm pissed off...
Sun Jul 7, 2013, 10:26 PM
Jul 2013

I'm pretty sure I'm a liberal. I dislike repubs. I hate teabaggers and wish somebody would just rapture them from this earth.

And I really can't stand Dems with no spine. I've done my best on the Federal level by helping Warren and Markey get to the Senate. Hopefully they will be Dems with spines. There's nothing more I can do right now but focus on local problems and make sure no more Scott Browns happen. Jesus, when you lose a state like Massachusetts to a Scott Brown, you should start to realize your party is in trouble.

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