'So proud of our Wikileaks daughter' ¿Dónde está Sarah amiga de Assange?

[flamingdem]

* While the world waits to learn about whether Edward Snowden will pick Venezuela as his future home, there's one person who already knows the answer. Sarah Harrison has accompanied Snowden through the Moscow drama. Now, since no one has heard from Snowden, and we know he's with her, ¿Dónde está Sarah?

London - They are the kind of quietly decent, middle-class people universally recognised as the backbone of England.
Now retired, Ian Harrison used to be an executive with clothes retailer Burtons, while his wife Jennifer has devoted her life to developing methods of helping children with learning difficulties to read.

Not the kind of family to be involved with the story of an international spy fleeing from justice - unless they were watching a blockbuster film. But all this week at their cosy farmhouse in East Sussex, they have thought of little else.

For their beautiful, privately schooled daughter Sarah, 31, is the “mystery” long-haired girl who has been shepherding former CIA technician Edward Snowden in the glare of the world’s media as he makes a diplomatic dash to escape the wrath of the White House.

Sarah, who has been the lover of charismatic WikiLeaks leader Julian Assange, 41, and has become a pivotal figure in his organisation, has been holed up most of this week with whistleblower Snowden in a hotel in the transit area of Moscow’s Sheremetyevo airport.

http://www.iol.co.za/news/world/so-proud-of-our-wikileaks-daughter-1.1540255#.UdnPuVPZfn4

[KittyWampus]

1. link goes to a photo, just so you know. And it does seem to be clear- Snowden is a Wikileaks project

[flamingdem]

2. whoops, thanks will update

Someone was speculating that Snowden could be in a Russian jail. The fact that Sarah is with him makes that seem less likely. Maybe!

[Maximumnegro]

3. It's Julian's show.

Snowden is just a sad little pawn.

[think]

4. That's odd. I thought it was The Carlyle Group's show....

[flamingdem]

8. Where's the connect?

I read something about the Spanish guy who supposedly offered coffee to Morales being an ex-Carlye, if I am not mistaken

[think]

12. It was a subtle jab at a cabal that is most certainly hard at work on damage control

And my jab was probably ill placed so I do apologize for that. But I do like to remind people who's really running the show once in awhile...

[flamingdem]

15. I know what you mean, Wikileaks can't quite compete

but they're giving it a go.

[think]

20. Wikileaks is a mere blip on radar in comparison but I understand you have concerns

at least I think, if those concerns are with Wikileaks having a strong bias and allowing it to show in their efforts to expose war crimes and criminal activity within the US govt and other govts.

But I've watched the video many times and even in the unedited version with the people with guns it just looks like a disghusting slaughter of human life that could have been avoided. The two men in the van with the children in it died for trying to help a dying man.

I understand war is hell and that Rumsfeld secretly changed the law so that those killings were covered and technically legal. But what transpired in those videos is vile and despicable and the American people should see it. However 99.9% of Americans probably don't even know that video exists...

But all of that is now "history". And today many of the other whistle blowers are corroborating Snowden's claims so Wikileaks appears rather irrelevant. In the bigger picture of the NSA private contractor entanglements that include violations of even revised laws I think congress having many former whistle blowers testify will be of more importance than any concerns with Assange and Wikileaks.

JMO. End rant....

[flamingdem]

21. I agree and saw the video, my gripe is about the Libertarian values of Snowden and Greenwald

and how Snowden may have had help to steal documents, sure it was easy if he had helpers. I just don't think we have the whole story.

Then as far as the leaks, Wikileaks earlier leaks had merit, but Snowden leaking about China, especially when he self rightgeously released info that the USA spies on Beijing University, well okay but he just ruined the intell that was for disarmament talks.

I am not ready to believe China is worth informing in that way.

[think]

22. I know Snowden told the South China Morning Post that Chinese phone systems had been hacked

and that many other civilian areas were targeted. Is this what you are referring to or did Snowden release actual documents to the Chinese?

I ask only because I am not familiar with any document leaks to China. Just the interview which while somewhat revealing was rather innocuous. I could be wrong but that's my take on it.

[flamingdem]

23. Please read the vanity fair article

snowden china vanity fair will get you a version

[think]

24. OK Found the story about the documents from SCMP

Sorry, but I really don't find these leaks earth shattering but rather just more of an embarrassment to our spy agency. It appear the NSA doesn't just try to spy on serious terrorist and military threats but anything & everything.

Sure this type of blanket spying on everyone can find a stupid wanna be terrorist or two. Or maybe even a real one. But this is a private entanglement of the NSA & private contractors spying on universities businesses, and citizens of China and having access to their private information.

I don't like bush's Prism program and I don't like the same tactics being used around the globe to spy on everyone. To be clear I don't have a problem with the NSA spying on threats and military activities. But blanket spying on ordinary people for unknown purposes doesn't appeal to me.

EXCLUSIVE: Snowden safe in Hong Kong, more US cyberspying details revealed

Snowden is not under police protection but in a "safe place" in Hong Kong

by Lana Lam Saturday, 22 June, 2013

~Snip~

Documents seen by the Post and statements by Snowden show that Washington’s cyber-spying programme carried out:

Extensive hacking of major telecommunication companies in China to access text messages
Sustained attacks on network backbones at Tsinghua University, China’s premier seat of learning.
Hacking of computers at the Hong Kong headquarters of Pacnet, which owns one of the most extensive fibre optic submarine cable networks in the region

Full article:

http://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/article/1266777/exclusive-snowden-safe-hong-kong-more-us-cyberspying-details-revealed?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

[flamingdem]

25. Well we don't know what else he gave them

and Greenwald admitted that he gave info to ingratiate himself in HK / China, note them let him leave with hinkey documents and a cancelled passport.

[think]

26. Just my opinion but I don't think he did or we'd had heard about. True I don't know that

but at this point any talk of what he could have passed on is purely speculative.

I can see though if one doesn't trust the motives of Snowden one would entertain those possibilities more.

But what has been reported as to what he's shared it still seems unimportant as to national security and more important to the people in Hong Kong and in China who have been spied upon.

I wouldn't put it past Booz Allen to sell the spying on the Chinese people back to the Chinese authorities to clamp down on their own protagonists. But that like what other documents Snowden might have released is still nothing more than speculation....

[flamingdem]

27. What I don't like is that Snowden is desperate, and likely to decide based on survival

and he'll do whatever to stay out of prison apparently.

[Luminous Animal]

30. All you have is speculation and insination. Ugh.

[flamingdem]

31. What is insination?

Is that like a sinus problem

[Luminous Animal]

37. My dying 19 year old cat pulled off several of my computer keys while stretching

and moaning in pain. He did not die from a sinus problem.

[think]

33. If he is exposing illegal activities by the NSA why should he go to jail?

And if you saw other whistleblowers being thrown in jail for telling the truth would you be ready to join them?

Seriously.I have a hard time faulting Snowden for not wanting the Bradley Manning treatment. And as Daniel Ellsberg reminded people in a recent interview Snowden could be held under the NDAA which allows the indefinite detainment of Americans.

All the other whistle blowers who followed the rules were still threatened and many cases brought up on charges by trying to follow the chain of command. Then before they tell their tale the DOJ slaps a gag order on them and seals their testimony.

It's kind of like the judge who won't watch a video of a suspect being beaten and using the excuse that the videos can only be used to defend the policeman in question not to prove his guilt.

Everyone knows the truth but through the magic of legal speak it is now against the law to tell the truth that the govt is acting illegally.

So I'm not sure what one would expect Snowden to do if he understood these circumstances....

[flamingdem]

34. I think he's a coward. He's no role model for Americans and he'd be tried as a citizen

with expensive lawyers.

Oh well he'll fade into obscurity in some third world country apparently. His loss.

[think]

36. I think the Carlyle Group and what they are doing trumps anything Snowden has done so far.

JMO

[flamingdem]

41. His role in his mind was "hero" - that was his choice

n/t

[Sheepshank]

40. I don't know enough about Snowden to trust unilateral decisions made by Snowden

He explains he has collected and has lots of damning info...he decides what to give what nation and under what circumstances. Is the info divvied up based on what is good for the citizens of the USA or to save his own hide at this point?

[Luminous Animal]

28. What? Link please.

[flamingdem]

6. Yes, it's looking like a Wikileaks campaign from the beginning

The latest interview released today was with Snowden, Appelbaum, Poitras.

Appelbaum and Poitras work together and Appelbaum is a Wikileaks hacktivist. The interview was done quite a while ago, before anyone knew Snowden's name.

Speculation is that the public would not like the info coming from Wikileaks, thus Greenwald stepped in.

[Luminous Animal]

35. There is no such thing as a Wikileaks hackivist. Wikileaks does not hack.

Snowden has been in touch with Poitras because of her stellar work on the behalf of whistleblowers. Applebaum is a privacy activist. Both have been targeted by the US government, their property seized and inspected (without a warrant) at US border.

The fact that they work together and that Snowden knew about them and reached out to them is no mystery.

[MADem]

7. She's not even a lawyer. Odd choice.

Despite her closeness to Assange, Harrison may seem a strange choice to accompany Snowden, as unlike several people close to WikiLeaks – most notably human rights lawyer Jennifer Robinson – Harrison has no legal qualifications or background.

Julian Assange has made several public statements in support of Edward Snowden and told reporters last week he had been in touch with the whistleblower through intermediaries.

The direct intervention in Snowden's situation marks a departure in practice for WikiLeaks – which has previously stressed its arms-length relationship with sources – but is consistent with the organisation's world view on protecting and supporting whistleblowers.

Snowden's intended destination, his plans once he gets there, and whether WikiLeaks intends to play a longer-term role supporting or working with Snowden are not yet known.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/23/snowden-wikileaks-escort-assange-advisor

It does seem like he's being "managed" in some fashion.

[flamingdem]

11. I imagine they are being paid via Greenwald's foundation

John Cusak is fundraising on Huffpo, they have 200,000 might just be for Manning but they'll start another for Snowden no doubt.

I'm thinking what lawyer would want to be holed up with Snowden without a massive retainer!

Sarah however will do it for the cause.

[MADem]

42. Apparently the woman with Snowden is or was a "lover" of Assange.

Poor thing.

I thought Wikileaks was paying this guy's bills.

Who knows, maybe the PRC is!

[flamingdem]

43. She must be getting tired of that hotel room!

Though there's lots to be gained with the notoriety that will come from her connection.

I could believe the PRC is involved in some way, or Putin, but he was so well accepted over there in Hong Kong, gotta wonder.

[HipChick]

5. I hope Snowden has not succumbed

to Assange's leftovers..

[flamingdem]

9. Do you think that conjugal visits are allowed at the Ecuadoran Embassy

in London? Inquiring minds want to know, well maybe not!

[HipChick]

14. She's an escort though, not a barrister..

I wonder why she would be accompanying him, some of countries he is trying to get to have poor rights for women

[flamingdem]

19. They must be looking for a better option than Venezuela

not sure if that's about rights for women, that seem to be pretty good there, but about the socialist government.

I guess if they are trolling Asia they'll run into the issues of women's rights, everywhere.

[MADem]

45. Rights for women in Venezuela? The right to be barefoot and pregnant!

VZ SUCKS on the issue of choice--SUCKS. Which is why I find it so curious that so many posters with female names here on DU slobber adoringly over that nation. I sometimes wonder if they are generously mustachioed guys in the Propaganda Ministry in Caracas-- I just cannot imagine a woman endorsing such draconian laws. Makes no damn sense to me.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion_in_Venezuela

They also suck--again SUCK--on equality issues. You won't get arrested, but you have no RIGHTS.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_Rights_in_Venezuela

If the same bullshit that VZ pulled on its citizens regarding CHOICE or EQUALITY were the "standard" or "law of the land" in USA, people would be rioting in the streets. However, it's "OK" if it's Hugo, or his successor, "Hugo Lite."

Talk about hypocrisy!

[cali]

10. why on earth would you care at all about Snowden's sex life?

[flamingdem]

13. Perfect comment

I don't hide my interest in all aspects of this story. It's interesting to me that someone is living at an Embassy, the mind wanders to the restrictions implied in that lifestyle.

[HipChick]

17. Didin't he declare his place at the Embassy bugged? And he was all set to reveal a few days ago?

Still waiting....lot of smoke and mirrors with Assange - so I really wonder about the advice he is giving to Snowden...

[HipChick]

16. You are the one that mentioned sex..

she has no legal qualifications, so I wonder where they are actually getting the legal support from

[flamingdem]

18. Michael Ratner from the Center for Constitutional Rights went to Moscow

But I don't know how / if they're using his services.


He's a good guy, if a little over zealous.

[cali]

29. don't be cutesy and coy. YOU did.

I hope Snowden has not succumbed

to Assange's leftovers..


How stupid do you think DUers are?

[HipChick]

38. That's strange..till up to now you are the still the only one to mention it..still e-stalking me?

I see...e-stalking me from thread to thread still?

I mentioned her being an escort and not a legal lawyer, and you are in the gutter?..oh vey..weird..weird..e-stalking indeed

Please use your ignore button if you don't like my posts, but stop projecting and please stop e-stalking me..

[Pale Blue Dot]

32. Glad to see that misogyny is being added to the mix.

What a disgusting article. Rick Perry would love it.

[KittyWampus]

47. there is nothing remotely misogynist in the article. Did you even read it? She is involved in this

story of her own volition.

There is nothing, I repeat nothing, in this article that is misogynist.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

39. Tsk! Tsk! Dear me! Blonde! Hotel! Sex! Gasp!

[flamingdem]

44. Your projection, she has a critical role in the saga nt

[Cha]

49. ...

[MADem]

46. This is the guy who cheered about the hot prostitutes in Switzerland on Ars Technica.

He's the guy who fancied himself a hot "model."

Venezuela is the country that has no CHOICE for women (to say nothing of no EQUALITY for gays).

All aspects of this story are "on the table." By their conduct we shall know them. By their choices we shall know them, too.

[flamingdem]

50. That's something very different

between Venezuela and Cuba. Didn't realize that was the case there.

[MADem]

53. If you are a poor woman, you are better off, in terms of basic needs, in Cuba than Venezuela.

Your access to health care is better, and you have more opportunity for education and meaningful employment. And your right to choose is not abrogated.

[Cha]

48. "Sarah, who has been the lover of charismatic WikiLeaks leader Julian Assange, 41"

Freaking gross. "charismatic"? Yeah, if you like blowhards who are hiding out in an Ecuadorian Embassy because he doesn't want to go back to Sweden to answer the rape charges against him.

Swedish prosecutors announce the courts have approved their request to issue arrest warrants to question Assange, who is now in London. On November 20, the Stockholm Criminal Court issues an international arrest warrant for Assange, stating he is suspected of several counts of rape, sexual molestation and illegal use of force. Interpol later issues a "red notice" upon Sweden's request.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/08/16/world/europe/assange-extradition-timeline

[flamingdem]

51. I'm guessing that Sarah has move on

He's not exactly an alpha male living in a closet!

[Cha]

52. I would imagine.. not impressed with her

choices.

Speaking of Assange.. I didn't know until just awhile ago when I was reading his Timeline that the two girls who accused him were "wikileaks volunteers". I completely missed that. But, I didn't really follow all of his drama.