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cali

(114,904 posts)
Sun Jul 7, 2013, 07:14 AM Jul 2013

In Secret, Court Vastly Broadens Powers of N.S.A.

I know: It's no big deal. It's legal. It's to keep us safe You have less privacy from big corporations. ya da ya da ya da.

In more than a dozen classified rulings, the nation’s surveillance court has created a secret body of law giving the National Security Agency the power to amass vast collections of data on Americans while pursuing not only terrorism suspects, but also people possibly involved in nuclear proliferation, espionage and cyberattacks, officials say.

The rulings, some nearly 100 pages long, reveal that the court has taken on a much more expansive role by regularly assessing broad constitutional questions and establishing important judicial precedents, with almost no public scrutiny, according to current and former officials familiar with the court’s classified decisions.

The 11-member Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, known as the FISA court, was once mostly focused on approving case-by-case wiretapping orders. But since major changes in legislation and greater judicial oversight of intelligence operations were instituted six years ago, it has quietly become almost a parallel Supreme Court, serving as the ultimate arbiter on surveillance issues and delivering opinions that will most likely shape intelligence practices for years to come, the officials said.

Last month, a former National Security Agency contractor, Edward J. Snowden, leaked a classified order from the FISA court, which authorized the collection of all phone-tracing data from Verizon business customers. But the court’s still-secret decisions go far beyond any single surveillance order, the officials said.

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http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/07/us/in-secret-court-vastly-broadens-powers-of-nsa.html?pagewanted=2&_r=1&hpw

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In Secret, Court Vastly Broadens Powers of N.S.A. (Original Post) cali Jul 2013 OP
Thank you! sibelian Jul 2013 #1
It's a very good piece cali Jul 2013 #3
In Context: the Wyden-Udall letters on government secrecy MNBrewer Jul 2013 #2
But somehow... kentuck Jul 2013 #4
So the only nongovernmental organizations in front of FISA Pholus Jul 2013 #5
can't believe this is sinking... sibelian Jul 2013 #6
Secret courts, secret trials, secret renditions, secret torture. secret wars, do not democracy make. Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2013 #7
K and R nt Mojorabbit Jul 2013 #8
this was a really good article. Learned a lot from it. Still digesting it. KittyWampus Jul 2013 #9
K&R liberal_at_heart Jul 2013 #10
 

cali

(114,904 posts)
3. It's a very good piece
Sun Jul 7, 2013, 07:29 AM
Jul 2013

It makes clear that what's been going on is just massive. And the secrecy should concern everyone.

MNBrewer

(8,462 posts)
2. In Context: the Wyden-Udall letters on government secrecy
Sun Jul 7, 2013, 07:26 AM
Jul 2013
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2013/jun/06/context-wyden-udall-letters-government-secrecy/

"Are the phone records of millions of Americans being compiled in a secret government database? A court order disclosed by the British newspaper The Guardian newspaper on June 5 seems to point in that direction.

The order, signed by Judge Roger Vinson of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court in April, directs Verizon to turn over phone records daily to the National Security Agency. (Vinson is a Florida federal court judge who ruled the health care law unconstitutional in 2011.)

The basis for the order: section 215 of the Patriot Act, the law that gave the government new powers after the terrorist attacks of 9/11.

News reports on the disclosure so far show President Barack Obama’s administration isn’t disputing the existence of the order. Civil libertarians have long warned the government was likely gathering phone records of Americans for a massive database, including under the administration of President George W. Bush."

kentuck

(111,110 posts)
4. But somehow...
Sun Jul 7, 2013, 08:17 AM
Jul 2013

They cannot find where the billionaires are hiding trillions of dollars in offshore accounts? Or they just don't want to?

Pholus

(4,062 posts)
5. So the only nongovernmental organizations in front of FISA
Sun Jul 7, 2013, 08:25 AM
Jul 2013

Are companies concerned at too much data collection.

Wow. It is wacky world here. Corporations defending me from my government.

I would try to plead the for my rights myself....but I am not allowed to do so. It is a secret court you see.

What madness causes my party go along with this?

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
7. Secret courts, secret trials, secret renditions, secret torture. secret wars, do not democracy make.
Sun Jul 7, 2013, 04:27 PM
Jul 2013
"Whenever the people are well informed, they can be trusted with their own government; that whenever things get so far wrong as to attract their notice, they may be relied on to set them to rights."

Thomas Jefferson to Richard Price, January 8, 1789
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