A Direct Timeline of Glenn Greenwald, His Front Group and the Fugitive Edward Snowden

[flamingdem]

* Thanks to LukeFL for this website find from his earlier post
* I don't endorse but think it's valid to question the origins of the Snowdenerama

http://www.thepeoplesview.net/2013/07/a-direct-timeline-of-glenn-greenwald.html?m=1

After Snowden fled to Hong Kong, he was interviewed by Greenwald and Laura Poitras. Poitras, described by the pro-Snowden outlets as simply a "documentary filmmaker," has another title. Not only did she admit to being in contact with Snowden in the same time period as Greenwald, she is a close friend and confidant of Glenn Greenwald's.

Greenwald and Poitras sit on the board of a group together - a fact they do not disclose during their on-camera interview of Snowden, or its write-up in the Guardian. This all-white Board of Directors head an organization, "Freedom of the Press Foundation," launched in December of 2012 that seem to be devoted entirely to Glenn Greenwald's pet causes and issues. In other words, it seems to be a front group from Greenwald and his radical libertarian agenda rather than having anything to do with any actual freedom of the press.

Go to their front page right now, and they have a fundraiser to fund a stenographer for Bradley Manning's trial. Go to their blog and pretty much every single entry has to do with how the NSA is coming to get you, or the "heroism" of one of Greenwald's pet causes: Bradley Manning, Edward Snowden, Wikileaks, and the biggest hero of them all, Greenwald himself. And the blog entries that do not directly address the "heroism" of leaking national security information for our enemies to see do their best to gin up paranoia about how the gubmint is coming to get you.

But I digress. This Greenwald front-group's connection to Snowden doesn't end with Greenwald and Poitras. It extends to the group that is now acting as a legal shield for Snowden, providing him with a lawyer, as well as submitting asylum applications on his behalf: Wikileaks. Wikileaks is listed as the top organization receiving support from the Freedom of the Press Foundation.

So let's quickly put it in a summary timeline and see if it makes any sense: - MORE AT LINK

[DeSwiss]

1. ....

[burnodo]

10. +1000

[tishaLA]

2. LOL "all-white Board of Directors"

it's good when shamelessness is that bold.

[Cha]

3. "..the biggest hero of them all,

Greenwald himself." The biggest Obamaphobe of them all. lol Snowden's #2.

[flamingdem]

17. Twitter conversation is deconstructing Greenwald's disinformation campaign + wikileaks pre hong kong

journalists discussing:
https://twitter.com/PierreOnTW/status/353830364722118656

?@PierreOnTW
@20committee @WillardFoxton GG is running his own info warfare / disinformation campaign - exactly what he accuses the states of doing

[Cha]

23. I'm thinking

"sociopath'.

thank you for the link, flamindem

[Demit]

4. Daniel Ellsberg co-founded the organization you are calling a front group.

You’re going to have to find a way to denigrate Ellsberg, and the Truthout organization, and even John Cusack now. They are all proud to be affiliated with, and work for, the Freedom of the Press Foundation.

John Cusack:
"When we launched Freedom of the Press Foundation -- a new organization dedicated to supporting the 1st Amendment and journalism that focuses on transparency and accountability in government -- a little over six weeks ago, we knew the need was there. President Obama had come into office promising to "create an unprecedented level of openness in Government," "establish a system of transparency," and most famously, become "the most transparent administration in history."
But now at the start of his second term, government secrecy is at an all time high, and officials who leak information to the press are routinely being intimidated, and whistleblowers are being prosecuted at a record rate. In fact, the current administration has prosecuted more whistleblowers than the rest of the Presidents combined. These facts speak for themselves --it was more important than ever to stand up for this country's long tradition of a free press. ..."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/john-cusack/why-im-donating-to-fund-t_b_2632389.html

[flamingdem]

5. I wrote "I don't endorse it"

because I don't know much about that group.

[Demit]

7. Google is your friend. Especially when you are linking to the people's view.

That site will not allow any, and I mean any, dissent from their point of view. They will instantly ban you as a commenter if you disagree in the slightest with anything they post. It is not a site for debate. It is a site for one point of view only.

[DeSwiss]

13. Here ya go....

- You can use my old ''Wake-up Glasses'' since I don't need them anymore. When you're done with 'em, please give them to someone else in need......

[flamingdem]

14. Is that a tin foil hat tightening device?

[DeSwiss]

18. Well it is obvious that you know as much about.....

...tin foil hats as you do about what constitutes a ''front group.''

- Really, you should try on the glasses. You have absolutely nothing to lose but your tunnel-vision and your incredulity. I promise.....

[flamingdem]

19. I don't trust Glenn Greenwald at all as a starter nt

[DeSwiss]

21. The ''truth'' comes in many forms and from a lot of different places.

And it's not the places that we've been ''trained to look'' for it either. Often we can't see the truth because we're so busy looking at the outer wrappings instead of what's inside. Maybe we should concentrate a little more on the message and a lot less on the messenger?

- Not concentrating on the message itself, and being dazzled or turned-off by the messenger is how we got into this shit in the first place.

[randome]

27. Evidence is something that stands on its own. Everything else is opinion.

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[Mojorabbit]

40. Then why in the world would you post it without

researching it first?

[KittyWampus]

43. the timeline still applies.

[Mojorabbit]

48. If the poster has no idea if the site is legit

then the timeline is also in question.

[KittyWampus]

50. I could reproduce it with sources… maybe next week. It's too bad whoever wrote it went overboard

doing the "front" route because that's why readers dismiss the timeline (which is accurate).

[pinboy3niner]

6. That 'front group' claim is the weakest one I've seen

It's like cotton candy--all air. I wouldn't even give whoever's writing that site a "nice try." There's no there there.

[VanillaRhapsody]

51. A group that demands conformity to their narrative that President Obama is the worst thing ever!

Kinda makes me think that now we know where some of these folks flocking here all of a sudden have come from.

[randome]

8. Very interesting timeline.

Is it a coincidence that the Freedom of the Press Foundation was set up a mere month before Snowden suddenly appears on the screen and begins contacting its Board members for a scoop? Is it a coincidence that Snowden then gets a job in order specifically to obtain documents he would need to drop the story? Is it a coincidence that Wikileaks established a positive relationship with the Freedom of the Press Foundation before it took on the cause of Ed Snowden?

Maybe. Maybe it's all a coincidence. One hell of a coincidence.

It is, admittedly, all supposition but still...interesting. Greenwald's club has had it in for the NSA at its start and then along comes Snowden.

And even Ellsberg. His uncritical support of Snowden combined with being a founding member of a group seemingly dedicated to bring down the NSA.

Not one of these people have disclosed their affiliation with an NSA-hating group at the same time they are trying to damage the NSA.

Interesting.

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[flamingdem]

9. Check out this news about Snowden working with Wikileaks Hacktivist pre Hong Kong

* Brings into question issues of journalism etc
* I always suspected he had hacker contacts that helped him, possibly technically, also in Hong Kong

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023190022

[randome]

11. David Gregory is an ass. I would still enjoy seeing him ask Greenwald about this.

I think it would give another meaning to the term 'green screen'.



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[flamingdem]

12. He surely is, but someone has got to dig deeper on this

Wikileaks and Greenwald, more to the story that's for sure and more players to emerge like Appelbaum. This is going to push their WL movement one way or another.

[VanillaRhapsody]

52. How do we know if Snowden was not already a part of Anon?

[randome]

15. They still have not reached their goal of $100,000 for a stenographer.

But I don't see any indication that the organization has a stenographer present at Manning's trial. It seems there are already stenographers there so I'm uncertain what the point is of adding another one.

Unless the money raised so far is actually paying for one now and they simply want more money to see it through.

But the site is unclear on that.

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[flamingdem]

16. On Huffington they've reached 200,000 w/board member John Cusack

He has a blog, this link was posted here by someone just a bit ago

[Luminous Animal]

30. Ahem...

https://pressfreedomfoundation.org/bradley-manning-transcripts

[randome]

34. Okay, then.

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[boilerbabe]

20. oh, it's "the people's view YET AGAIN. must be a staffer. nt

[cali]

22. bwahahaha. The real saga Robert Ford and the fugitive Jesse James

the effort being put into making these two the evilest on planet earth is just funny at this point.

[quinnox]

24. somehow, I doubt “The peoples view“ will be winning any journalism awards

or blogger awards, either. Its clearly written by some Obama hard core fan club member.

[randome]

25. It's just as clear that the timeline is accurate.

It may not be 'proof' of anything but it's an interesting overview.

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[KittyWampus]

46. Very true. It's too bad about the "front" crap.

[Thinkingabout]

26. This is a spy and lie bunch, they are not hero makers.

[flamingdem]

28. Greenwald and Poitras?

They are the spy and lie bunch?

[Thinkingabout]

29. And Snowden and maybe more

[DisgustipatedinCA]

31. You should have added "shadowy" to "front group". It sounds more sinister.

This one of the more ridiculous posts I've seen regarding NSA spying. When you find yourself trying to make something sinister out of a public group whose mission is to defend journalism, you have lost your way.

[Mojorabbit]

49. + a gazillion. nt

[animato]

32. k and r

[Scurrilous]

33. Kick

[frylock]

35. this is hilarious!

kicking!

[flamingdem]

37. I feel all good inside

when you support my threads :loveyah:

[frylock]

38. it's like you don't even care that the majority of posters on this board are laughing at you!

that is so spunky!

[flamingdem]

39. I have plenty of fans

The ones who laugh are of the low IQ variety

[CakeGrrl]

41. Some people have enough strength of character NOT to care about stuff like that.

Going against the clique? As with middle and high school, that's a brave thing to do.

That dynamic seems to be close at hand.

[KittyWampus]

45. And yet that link leads to an accurate time line.

[frylock]

54. full of hyperbolic bullshit..

front group? plz.

[TransitJohn]

36. So full of fail, IMOHO.

Supporting the 4th Estate's right to question government is a 'front'?

[KittyWampus]

44. there's still the timeline. Shame whoever wrote it decided to do the "front" thing.

[Bluenorthwest]

56. The entire lexicon of the piece is dripping with insinuation and vile tactics it is not just did

'the front thing' although that alone is about as McCarthyite as you can get.
Some poisonous crap.

[joshcryer]

42. Wow @ that Arstechnica chat log.

[Waiting For Everyman]

47. What a colossal nitwit. And DUers are reposting this trash.

Yep, I'm sure the ACLU will be the next expose... because "some blogger" is such a credible source on credibility. Holy Conspiracy Theory, Batman!

To the trash bin, which is getting a workout.

[Democracyinkind]

53. Conspiracy Theory Bullshit.

I know, this one is OK with DU...

[Bluenorthwest]

55. This is some shamefully vile McCarthyite crap that has no place among thinking people.

Fucking unreal. New depths daily.

[usGovOwesUs3Trillion]

57. I'm much more concerned about the suspicionless spying

Then the journalist, or whistleblower's politics.

This sounds like a lot of distraction from the more important story.