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elehhhhna

(32,076 posts)
Sat Jul 6, 2013, 04:38 PM Jul 2013

We've OUTSOURCED intelligence to a for profit co owned by Foreign 1%'ers



Why no stink in the media about this? "Grave damage to our country, blah blah blah...", but nobody's fired and no contracts broken. SNOWDEN SNOWDEN SNOWDEN 24/7, and never a mention of Carlyle Group.




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We've OUTSOURCED intelligence to a for profit co owned by Foreign 1%'ers (Original Post) elehhhhna Jul 2013 OP
Just keep following the trail of money, it will reveal everything. Initech Jul 2013 #1
. blkmusclmachine Jul 2013 #2
Yep, not very patriotic of our government, is it? Cleita Jul 2013 #3
They have always been in bed together siligut Jul 2013 #4
One of the biggest clients of Booze Allen Hamilton (other than the United States) Harmony Blue Jul 2013 #5
Why are we so in bed with the Saudis and how do we kick them out? Cleita Jul 2013 #11
+1 nt Live and Learn Jul 2013 #12
Brown, wealthy, powerful, foreign sulphurdunn Jul 2013 #13
"Why are we so in bed with the Saudis..?" Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2013 #17
This is exactly the issue, not Snowden or Greenwald, not Obama. Scuba Jul 2013 #6
Not being a smart-ass (OK, maybe a little) or pedantic quibbler, but HardTimes99 Jul 2013 #7
What makes it worse is that they're not only violating the Constitution, but .... Scuba Jul 2013 #8
Maybe that had to happen so we nineteen50 Jul 2013 #9
Booze Allen Hamilton, and the Carlyle Group are evil pirate profiteers,. Civilization2 Jul 2013 #18
How could any one imagine that something might go wrong by farming out indepat Jul 2013 #10
this is a key concept in the debate that will certainly be "overlooked" in corporate media nashville_brook Jul 2013 #14
THIS....It's Obvious! KoKo Jul 2013 #15
"President Obama and President Bush "Come Together in Africa" Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2013 #19
The M$M never bites its paymaster's hand. Rex Jul 2013 #16

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
3. Yep, not very patriotic of our government, is it?
Sat Jul 6, 2013, 05:19 PM
Jul 2013

I think they need to tread carefully when they use the word treason as an accusation.

siligut

(12,272 posts)
4. They have always been in bed together
Sat Jul 6, 2013, 05:20 PM
Jul 2013

This is how the 1% stay the 1%. And the media is their propaganda machine.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
11. Why are we so in bed with the Saudis and how do we kick them out?
Sat Jul 6, 2013, 06:17 PM
Jul 2013

I was not aware of this until Michael Moore pointed it out in his movie about the attack of the WTC in his movie "Fahrenheit 911". Most of the terrorists on that terrible day were Saudis, yet soon after there were photos of George Bush tiptoeing through Blue Bonnets on his ranch holding hands and even kissing a Saudi Prince.

Here in California our best real estate is not only owned by out-of-state Republicans like John McCain and Mitt Romney, but members of the Saudi royal family. Why are they here? Can't they get a mansion in Riyadh? Now I'm not prejudiced against any one from the Middle East, but I really don't want them owning half my country and having a finger in our government, which it seems like they do. I also want them paying good taxes for the privilege of living here.

 

sulphurdunn

(6,891 posts)
13. Brown, wealthy, powerful, foreign
Sat Jul 6, 2013, 06:58 PM
Jul 2013

Saudi aristocracy good. Brown, poor, powerless, foreign peasantry bad. Was there anything else?

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
17. "Why are we so in bed with the Saudis..?"
Sat Jul 6, 2013, 07:27 PM
Jul 2013

Easy, they're a single family that runs a right wing dynasty where they claim to derive their power and authority as prophets of God. They even dress like they are holy men. They even had the nerve to rename the country after their own family.

They also love, love, love Wall Street and sink LOTS of their oil money back into playing the market like it's a casino and don't throw a fit if they lose now and then.

Their #1 rival is Iran and they would LOVE to see us change that.

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
6. This is exactly the issue, not Snowden or Greenwald, not Obama.
Sat Jul 6, 2013, 05:38 PM
Jul 2013

The spying is bad enough, a clear violation of the Constitution. The privitization of the spying is even worse.

 

HardTimes99

(2,049 posts)
7. Not being a smart-ass (OK, maybe a little) or pedantic quibbler, but
Sat Jul 6, 2013, 05:42 PM
Jul 2013

what could possibly be 'even worse' than a 'clear violation of the Constitution'?

They're both (spying on citizens and privatization of said spying) equally abhorrent to me.

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
8. What makes it worse is that they're not only violating the Constitution, but ....
Sat Jul 6, 2013, 05:46 PM
Jul 2013

... they are licensing that violation and placing the product of that violation in the hands of a private corporation.

 

Civilization2

(649 posts)
18. Booze Allen Hamilton, and the Carlyle Group are evil pirate profiteers,.
Sat Jul 6, 2013, 07:27 PM
Jul 2013

warmongering, pillaging, destructive pirate scum,. but that is just my opinion, I could be wrong. research them yourself. No really start doing web searches and see just how evil these criminal organizations truly are. Your head will spin!

indepat

(20,899 posts)
10. How could any one imagine that something might go wrong by farming out
Sat Jul 6, 2013, 06:09 PM
Jul 2013

intelligence to foreign-based for-profit companies other than possibly serious/catastrophic breaches of national security? Nothing to see here.

nashville_brook

(20,958 posts)
14. this is a key concept in the debate that will certainly be "overlooked" in corporate media
Sat Jul 6, 2013, 07:04 PM
Jul 2013

i came across this essay today, and while i don't care for the tone, i appreciate the basic claim, which is the marriage of corporate power to intelligence gathering for the state is a nasty mix that's sure to leave nothing good in its wake.

i think the author makes his point best in this paragraph:

http://www.counterpunch.org/2013/07/05/the-nsa-and-that-1970s-show/

The joining of state with corporate power is what makes the argument ‘if you’ve got nothing to hide, you’ve got nothing to worry about’ from domestic spying so intrinsically dangerous. The claim is premised on the classical liberal conceit ‘political’ representatives represent the ‘national’ interest when capitalist plutocracy assures they represent the interests of profit-seeking corporations against their competitors, customers and workforces. As antique Scottish economist Adam Smith had it around the time the U.S. Constitution was inked, the rationale for labor unions was to counter the market power industrialists had over labor—it wasn’t to gain undue advantage. And as the recent decades long efforts by bi-partisan Washington to diminish the power of organized labor illustrate, ‘radical’ theories are not required to come to the conclusion government efforts against organized labor favor capitalists over labor. The corporate-state is not a ‘neutral’ actor as reified economic power in the struggle for profits.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
15. THIS....It's Obvious!
Sat Jul 6, 2013, 07:20 PM
Jul 2013

President Obama and President Bush "Come Together in Africa"

TRANSCRIPT AT LINK


Transcript for Obama, Bush Come Together in Africa


http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023152147

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
16. The M$M never bites its paymaster's hand.
Sat Jul 6, 2013, 07:21 PM
Jul 2013

They love being millionaires. Why would they change the formula?

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