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HipChick

(25,485 posts)
Thu Jul 4, 2013, 06:44 PM Jul 2013

Iceland Vote 6-63 AGAINST granting Snowden Citizenship..



Iceland proposal would grant Snowden citizenship

Some Icelandic lawmakers have introduced a proposal in Parliament to grant citizenship to National Security Agency leaker Edward Snowden, who admits to revealing key details of U.S. surveillance activities.

But the idea has received minimal support.

Snowden is believed to be stuck in a Moscow airport transit area, seeking asylum from more than a dozen countries. But to apply for asylum in Iceland, Snowden would have to reach the nation's soil.

Granting Snowden citizenship would circumvent that issue.

However, the bill to grant Snowden citizenship received limited support Thursday. Six members of minority parties were in favor out of Parliament's 63 members.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2013/07/04/snowden/2490501/
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Iceland Vote 6-63 AGAINST granting Snowden Citizenship.. (Original Post) HipChick Jul 2013 OP
Not many countries want a traitor among them itsrobert Jul 2013 #1
I think he would be accepted by Iran or North Korea. AlinPA Jul 2013 #26
One man's traitor is another man's patroit.. movonne Jul 2013 #59
Patriot? itsrobert Jul 2013 #63
Agreed he's a slimeball and a criminal. atreides1 Jul 2013 #61
So, you're saying I've got a chance. Major Hogwash Jul 2013 #2
Wolf is about to run this story on CNN flamingdem Jul 2013 #3
his goose is kinda cooked.. HipChick Jul 2013 #5
Yes, it must be terrifying to be in his position flamingdem Jul 2013 #6
yep...that is what I am thinking.. HipChick Jul 2013 #11
I really do wonder about that. If so, this would be the second time Wikileaks suckered some poor sap Hekate Jul 2013 #20
Wolf must be desperate BumRushDaShow Jul 2013 #8
I was thinking the same thing! flamingdem Jul 2013 #10
LOL BumRushDaShow Jul 2013 #15
lol - okay so now it's AC 360 about Trayvon flamingdem Jul 2013 #19
Must be because soaps normally run during the day BumRushDaShow Jul 2013 #29
Rofl JackN415 Jul 2013 #40
Applying for Asylum in Europe without being on site is almost hopeless. nt Democracyinkind Jul 2013 #4
A list of more countries that have said 'no' on the link below Tx4obama Jul 2013 #7
Ouch...score one for the "totalitarians" alcibiades_mystery Jul 2013 #9
Let's face it flamingdem Jul 2013 #12
30 years old isn't a kid alcibiades_mystery Jul 2013 #17
Oh for gods sake this was what he wanted to do. dkf Jul 2013 #22
Oh yaaaah alcibiades_mystery Jul 2013 #25
Typical childish response esp. copying Sid's emoticon. nm rhett o rick Jul 2013 #43
We the sheeple flamingdem Jul 2013 #48
Please. I had a 55 year old uncle who was as clueless as a 14 year old. randome Jul 2013 #32
It took a loopy person to create total chaos in the world flamingdem Jul 2013 #50
Actually, he's an adult who bought his ticket and is now running to avoid taking the ride. nt bike man Jul 2013 #45
His choices are narrowed to going broke at the Novotel Pod Hotel semi Prison flamingdem Jul 2013 #47
He's an adult who took the job with intent to steal. CakeGrrl Jul 2013 #53
He's even got his dad telling him to come back flamingdem Jul 2013 #54
Those VOTING totalitarians!1 nt UTUSN Jul 2013 #13
They've been intimidated flamingdem Jul 2013 #16
Always an easy answer. May be they just don't want Snowden in THEIR country. bluestate10 Jul 2013 #62
Nobody in debtor recovery is going to go against their banker. Downwinder Jul 2013 #14
I thought Iceland was our anti-bankster hero paradise alcibiades_mystery Jul 2013 #18
That's right Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #21
They're as free as a bird now alcibiades_mystery Jul 2013 #23
Chalk it up to the long, long arm of Dear Leader, Darth Obama. CakeGrrl Jul 2013 #58
Where the banker = China? BumRushDaShow Jul 2013 #24
It's getting to the point where Snowden could be thinking about turning himself in Life Long Dem Jul 2013 #27
I think this is the position they want him to be in HipChick Jul 2013 #34
There's still China .. flamingdem Jul 2013 #49
Snowden betrayed his own country Life Long Dem Jul 2013 #60
Snowden can have progressive lion lawyers travel to Moscow and escort him back home, bluestate10 Jul 2013 #65
Your caption is deceptive and WRONG! mazzarro Jul 2013 #28
Save it.. HipChick Jul 2013 #33
The article you linked to didn't have that headline burnodo Jul 2013 #35
The article was changed Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #36
You'll need to provide evidence of your shaky claim, else we need to count on your word DisgustipatedinCA Jul 2013 #56
Earth: 40. Snowden: Love. randome Jul 2013 #30
Man, that's cold. Scurrilous Jul 2013 #31
Actually, Greenland is colder than Iceland and Iceland is warmer than Greenland. randome Jul 2013 #41
I blame Aquavit. Scurrilous Jul 2013 #42
I think Aquavit is pulling all the strings flamingdem Jul 2013 #55
That's 6-57, not 6-63 if all they have is 63 members. Still, too close to call per Wolf JackN415 Jul 2013 #37
He just had to tantalize with the "small country that could save Snowden" flamingdem Jul 2013 #38
There may be an Inuit tribe or two in the Arctic who will take him in. randome Jul 2013 #39
Perfect! Finally a harbor in the storm.. nt flamingdem Jul 2013 #51
they know Obama would send in the drones.nt boilerbabe Jul 2013 #44
- BumRushDaShow Jul 2013 #52
I am not surprised! It is not worth pissing of the US government over this guy. hrmjustin Jul 2013 #46
Another gawd damn thing Iliyah Jul 2013 #57
Conditions at the transit hotel are said to be rapidly deteriorating. randome Jul 2013 #64
Bullshit subject line. There's been NO VOTE, just a bill introduced. scarletwoman Jul 2013 #66
Reading is fundamental.. HipChick Jul 2013 #67
Yes, that's what's the article said. It did not say there was a VOTE. scarletwoman Jul 2013 #68

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
3. Wolf is about to run this story on CNN
Thu Jul 4, 2013, 06:49 PM
Jul 2013

I think he's trying to say that some Iceland lawmaker might help him escape his fate, too late Wolfie!

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
6. Yes, it must be terrifying to be in his position
Thu Jul 4, 2013, 06:53 PM
Jul 2013

He really does seem to have been used by Greenwald and Wikileaks, lead astray, and who knows who else pushed him into it.

Hekate

(90,690 posts)
20. I really do wonder about that. If so, this would be the second time Wikileaks suckered some poor sap
Thu Jul 4, 2013, 07:05 PM
Jul 2013

And yeah, terrifying.

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
19. lol - okay so now it's AC 360 about Trayvon
Thu Jul 4, 2013, 07:03 PM
Jul 2013

why can't it be about Hong Kong Eddie!

I want a 24/7 channel devoted to Eddie and his exploits with correspondents in La Paz, Vienna, Moscow, and Beijing!

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
12. Let's face it
Thu Jul 4, 2013, 06:59 PM
Jul 2013

Snowball isn't much of a match for the US apparatus, regardless it is somehow satisfying to see his options running out.

Okay, I feel a teensy bit sorry for him, mostly because he's a clueless kid who had GG baiting him and Assange deciding his life from his closet

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
17. 30 years old isn't a kid
Thu Jul 4, 2013, 07:02 PM
Jul 2013

Which makes it all the more painful that he was so badly manipulated by Assange and Greenwald and the rest.

 

dkf

(37,305 posts)
22. Oh for gods sake this was what he wanted to do.
Thu Jul 4, 2013, 07:08 PM
Jul 2013

Because he believed that we the people value our rights. He didn't realize we are a bunch of sheep who want to surrender it all.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
32. Please. I had a 55 year old uncle who was as clueless as a 14 year old.
Thu Jul 4, 2013, 08:04 PM
Jul 2013

Some people never grow up. Something is not right with Snowden.

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flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
47. His choices are narrowed to going broke at the Novotel Pod Hotel semi Prison
Thu Jul 4, 2013, 09:03 PM
Jul 2013

and returning to the USA to be a semi hero in prison, well until people forget about him.

A bit grim.

Who is paying his hotel costs? Anyone know?

CakeGrrl

(10,611 posts)
53. He's an adult who took the job with intent to steal.
Thu Jul 4, 2013, 09:14 PM
Jul 2013

He just doesn't want to deal with the downside of the theft.

I'm not sorry for him at all, or his martyr complex. His biggest fear is being called to account and be responsible for what he's done.

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
54. He's even got his dad telling him to come back
Thu Jul 4, 2013, 09:16 PM
Jul 2013

Maybe he'd do 10-15 years and he'd still be young when he gets out.

bluestate10

(10,942 posts)
62. Always an easy answer. May be they just don't want Snowden in THEIR country.
Thu Jul 4, 2013, 09:34 PM
Jul 2013

Your ilk is for other country's rights until their choices don't fit your visions.

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
21. That's right
Thu Jul 4, 2013, 07:07 PM
Jul 2013

I thought I read numerous articles here about how Iceland has freed themselves fron the banksters.

CakeGrrl

(10,611 posts)
58. Chalk it up to the long, long arm of Dear Leader, Darth Obama.
Thu Jul 4, 2013, 09:21 PM
Jul 2013

Surely he turned Iceland against poor Snowden.

 

Life Long Dem

(8,582 posts)
27. It's getting to the point where Snowden could be thinking about turning himself in
Thu Jul 4, 2013, 07:19 PM
Jul 2013

There are still other countries he is waiting on, but they all seem to be saying the same thing. Russia wants him to leave. Where would that leave him? Out in the open for the US to pick him up?

 

Life Long Dem

(8,582 posts)
60. Snowden betrayed his own country
Thu Jul 4, 2013, 09:25 PM
Jul 2013

What country would put this spy to work - he could be a plant spying on them.

bluestate10

(10,942 posts)
65. Snowden can have progressive lion lawyers travel to Moscow and escort him back home,
Thu Jul 4, 2013, 09:47 PM
Jul 2013

then come back to fight it out with the government while lawyered up. But Snowden won't come back under his own terms because he is a coward and a traitor. Snowden will be dragged back, used, abandoned and sniveling.

mazzarro

(3,450 posts)
28. Your caption is deceptive and WRONG!
Thu Jul 4, 2013, 07:56 PM
Jul 2013

When you state that a vote of 6-63 AGAINST granting citizenship - that is false. The support of six members for the bill to grant citizenship does not necessarily translate to the final vote if the bill is voted on. The article did not say anything about the bill having been voted on!

Besides, the total number of members is 63 and if 6 of them are in favor, then only 57 may be against. So get your arithmetic correct and quit telegraphing your propaganda.

HipChick

(25,485 posts)
33. Save it..
Thu Jul 4, 2013, 08:09 PM
Jul 2013

Save the faux outrage for the journalist that wrote the article...is says AGAINST..however you want to spin it..

 

DisgustipatedinCA

(12,530 posts)
56. You'll need to provide evidence of your shaky claim, else we need to count on your word
Thu Jul 4, 2013, 09:20 PM
Jul 2013

There's no value in that. Got a picture?

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
30. Earth: 40. Snowden: Love.
Thu Jul 4, 2013, 08:02 PM
Jul 2013

Looks like the poor boy's backhand is giving him problems.

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randome

(34,845 posts)
41. Actually, Greenland is colder than Iceland and Iceland is warmer than Greenland.
Thu Jul 4, 2013, 08:22 PM
Jul 2013

Crazy-ass vikings!

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flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
55. I think Aquavit is pulling all the strings
Thu Jul 4, 2013, 09:17 PM
Jul 2013

Exactly how can I pray to Aquavit? I need some favors done.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
39. There may be an Inuit tribe or two in the Arctic who will take him in.
Thu Jul 4, 2013, 08:18 PM
Jul 2013

With all the different words they have for 'snow', they might welcome someone named Snowden.

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hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
46. I am not surprised! It is not worth pissing of the US government over this guy.
Thu Jul 4, 2013, 09:01 PM
Jul 2013

I think someone will take him.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
64. Conditions at the transit hotel are said to be rapidly deteriorating.
Thu Jul 4, 2013, 09:45 PM
Jul 2013


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scarletwoman

(31,893 posts)
66. Bullshit subject line. There's been NO VOTE, just a bill introduced.
Thu Jul 4, 2013, 10:45 PM
Jul 2013

The proposal has the support of 6 OUT of 63 Parliament members, meaning 57 don't support it. You can't even manage to get the math right.

Why are you making shit up?

scarletwoman

(31,893 posts)
68. Yes, that's what's the article said. It did not say there was a VOTE.
Thu Jul 4, 2013, 11:56 PM
Jul 2013

WTH is wrong with you? You post a false headline, and you imply that a vote that hasn't happened was 6 to 63. The article in your link clearly states that out of 63 members of the Icelandic Parliament, only 6 members supported the proposal to grant Snowden citizenship. Which means that there are 57 members of the Icelandic Parliament who did not support it, not 63 as your headline implies.

I am merely pointing out that your OP has the facts wrong, nothing more. Why you should find that an occasion for hilarity is beyond me.

That you would be delighted that the proposal for granting Snowden Icelandic citizenship has little support is not surprising. That you would feel the need to baldly mis-state the bare facts of the matter is something else.

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