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Cleita

(75,480 posts)
Thu Jul 4, 2013, 05:42 PM Jul 2013

Snowden makes Norway asylum application.

http://www.icenews.is/2013/07/04/snowden-makes-norway-asylum-application/

Posted on 04 July 2013.

NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden has applied for asylum in Norway, according to the country’s foreign minister. Norway foreign ministry spokesperson Frode Andersen confirmed that they received a faxed asylum application at their Moscow embassy on Monday afternoon. He added that it’s most likely from Mr Snowden and the signature is allegedly his, but they cannot be 100 per cent sure of that.

The spokesman gave no details about the letter’s content or from where the asylum application was faxed from.
more at link

So he's still trying to find a country to take him. I wonder what the Norwegians are going to do? Also in Iceland, we already know that their government is deciding whether to grant him Icelandic citizenship. I'm thinking some socialist country will give him refugee status on the grounds that he will not be treated well if returned to this country. Norway could be a good bet.
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Snowden makes Norway asylum application. (Original Post) Cleita Jul 2013 OP
what about some non-nato, non-eu country BOG PERSON Jul 2013 #1
He hasn't tried the Kingdom of Tonga yet flamingdem Jul 2013 #2
Has he petitioned Narnia, Shangri-La, El Dorado, or Middle-Earth yet? Liberal Veteran Jul 2013 #3
Is Vatican City on his list yet? struggle4progress Jul 2013 #4
Do they have an extradition treaty with us?n/t Cleita Jul 2013 #5
They're not on the list at 18 USC 3181. But Norway is. struggle4progress Jul 2013 #7
It might be a good bet then. I understand the papal apartments are vacant. n/t Cleita Jul 2013 #10
Norway Press Freedom Index #1 of 179 countries carolinayellowdog Jul 2013 #6
I think you have to be physically in the country to apply for asylum. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2013 #8
That's what Iceland and a few other countries have said. I don't know Cleita Jul 2013 #11
Has he tried Mars? Life Long Dem Jul 2013 #9
Lol, Snowden! You IDIOT! itsrobert Jul 2013 #12
Snowden’s asylum request rejected ProSense Jul 2013 #13
I guess his goose is cooked there. n/t Cleita Jul 2013 #14
Well, if Norway won't take him, maybe they'll take me magellan Jul 2013 #15
Ditto! truebluegreen Jul 2013 #16
When's the next flight back to the US? HipChick Jul 2013 #17
If they can't touch him in that transit section, maybe not, unless he tries to Cleita Jul 2013 #18
He's staying in a hotel..that he had to take a shuttle bus to..it is the only way to and from.. HipChick Jul 2013 #23
I believe he applied to Iceland Aerows Jul 2013 #19
There's a post floating around that the Iceland government is considering giving him Cleita Jul 2013 #21
They eat dried fish and puffins. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2013 #22
I've met a few Icelanders. They are very educated people and have Cleita Jul 2013 #24
I have, too. One of them advised me to visit in the summer The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2013 #25
I visited and they know how to party HipChick Jul 2013 #26
Actually, most of the Scandanavians do. Cleita Jul 2013 #28
I hung out with the IcelandAir flight crew for a while.. HipChick Jul 2013 #31
Norway: Snowden’s asylum request REJECTED Tx4obama Jul 2013 #20
Turned down. No way through this for him. longship Jul 2013 #27
Giovanni "Johnny" Henriksen a.k.a. Frank the Fixer had a hand in this, you just know it Brother Buzz Jul 2013 #32
Some here may see it that way, but I don't think this was a difficult decision for them. longship Jul 2013 #33
Norway would be my choice over Iceland newfie11 Jul 2013 #29
They rejected him so that's that. n/t Cleita Jul 2013 #30

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,719 posts)
8. I think you have to be physically in the country to apply for asylum.
Thu Jul 4, 2013, 05:57 PM
Jul 2013

If that's the case he'll have to figure out how to get out of the Moscow airport.

 

Life Long Dem

(8,582 posts)
9. Has he tried Mars?
Thu Jul 4, 2013, 05:58 PM
Jul 2013

He could start the terraforming of Mars. Maybe sign up for the flight to Mars.

Thousands want to take one-way trip to Mars, but will you pay their way?

http://www.nbcnews.com/science/thousands-want-take-one-way-trip-mars-will-you-pay-6C9552007


Maybe we could start a collection for him.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
13. Snowden’s asylum request rejected
Thu Jul 4, 2013, 06:07 PM
Jul 2013
Snowden’s asylum request rejected

Justice Minister Grete Faremo has halted attempts to get the Norwegian government to reconsider an asylum request from Edward Snowden, the young American who has revealed massive surveillance and spying by the US government. Even though some view Snowden as a hero and political refugee, Norway clearly won’t jeopardize its relationship with the US by granting him safe haven.

Norway has been among the many countries where Snowden sought asylum, but his request was quickly turned down on a technicality by immigration agency UDI. The immigration authorities contended that asylum seekers must be physically present in Norway when they apply, while Snowden reportedly remains stuck in a transit zone at the Moscow airport after the US cancelled his passport. That meant he didn’t meet Norway’s formal application requirements.

A Norwegian organization that advocates freedom of expression, Norsk PEN, then took the initiative to bring Snowden to Norway as a sort of “transfer refugee.” UDI then responded that Snowden didn’t qualify for that status, either. Faremo now seems to have brought further attempts at aiding Snowden to an end.

In a press release issued by the justice ministry on Thursday, Faremo noted that the US wants Snowden extradited to face criminal charges regarding his release of secret documents. He thus has no right to asylum, she wrote, because he’s a fugitive from a democratic country with a criminal justice system like that found in the US.

- more -

http://www.newsinenglish.no/2013/07/04/snowdens-asylum-request-rejected/

Why Won’t Anyone Take Edward Snowden?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023162351

magellan

(13,257 posts)
15. Well, if Norway won't take him, maybe they'll take me
Thu Jul 4, 2013, 06:09 PM
Jul 2013

I'd love to live in a democratic socialist country like Norway. Crumbling empires suck.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
18. If they can't touch him in that transit section, maybe not, unless he tries to
Thu Jul 4, 2013, 06:17 PM
Jul 2013

flee the airport. Then they can grab him and deport him since he no longer has a passport.

HipChick

(25,485 posts)
23. He's staying in a hotel..that he had to take a shuttle bus to..it is the only way to and from..
Thu Jul 4, 2013, 06:30 PM
Jul 2013

unless Wikileaks can support him indefinitely there...300 per night both him and his companion =$600 per night

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
19. I believe he applied to Iceland
Thu Jul 4, 2013, 06:20 PM
Jul 2013

They don't take any shit from anyone and imprisoned bankers. That's where I would go. Except it's cold as hell and they eat weird food.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
21. There's a post floating around that the Iceland government is considering giving him
Thu Jul 4, 2013, 06:23 PM
Jul 2013

citizenship. That way he could get a passport. Otherwise he has to go to Iceland first before they grant him asylum. He's really in a bind and in a no man's land right now. Beside the cold and food, what about all that volcanic activity there? I would find that a bit scary.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,719 posts)
22. They eat dried fish and puffins.
Thu Jul 4, 2013, 06:28 PM
Jul 2013

And their language hasn't changed in a thousand years. And there are only 300,000 people and they are all related to each other. And they have volcanoes.

Nevertheless, it sounds like a really interesting place. I'd like to visit someday.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
24. I've met a few Icelanders. They are very educated people and have
Thu Jul 4, 2013, 06:30 PM
Jul 2013

figured out how to have a quality life for all their citizens in a rather inhospitable place.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,719 posts)
25. I have, too. One of them advised me to visit in the summer
Thu Jul 4, 2013, 06:33 PM
Jul 2013

because the weather is nice and there are a lot of interesting places to visit. He said not to go in the winter because the weather is terrible and everybody just stays inside and drinks. I have been reading some great crime novels by Arnauldur Indridason, typical dark Scandinavian stuff, but really good reads.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
28. Actually, most of the Scandanavians do.
Thu Jul 4, 2013, 06:39 PM
Jul 2013

I knew a bunch of Danish girls from work and they were always ready to party, and there were Swedes in my apartment building. The Swedes got me to drink Aquavit like they do belting it down in one gulp. Needless to say they got me pretty drunk.

HipChick

(25,485 posts)
31. I hung out with the IcelandAir flight crew for a while..
Thu Jul 4, 2013, 06:46 PM
Jul 2013

They would stay at my hotel..for layovers...man they could drink...they drank me under the table several nights..

longship

(40,416 posts)
27. Turned down. No way through this for him.
Thu Jul 4, 2013, 06:35 PM
Jul 2013

And Iceland isn't going to work out for him either.

Nobody wants him, so far.

longship

(40,416 posts)
33. Some here may see it that way, but I don't think this was a difficult decision for them.
Thu Jul 4, 2013, 06:54 PM
Jul 2013

Pretty straightforward. "Nope! We will not grant Snowden amnesty." It happened quickly as these things go.

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