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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhy hasn't NSA spying busted offshore $ transfers? Voting machine tampering?
etc.?
Or has it?
Glenn, put up or shut up.
northoftheborder
(7,572 posts)JimDandy
(7,318 posts)Those in the Know are in Control.
mikeypooh
(9 posts)the people who pay them the most?
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)Welcome to DU!
think
(11,641 posts)Unless of course they don't trust them with their share of the cut...
Booz Allen does very well for the Carlyle Group:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/nathanvardi/2013/06/10/the-carlyle-group-has-made-2-billion-off-of-booz-allen/
bemildred
(90,061 posts)Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)I also seem to recall that somebody chickened out & failed to collect on a bunch of short-sells.
think
(11,641 posts)didn't know they failed to show....
bemildred
(90,061 posts)elehhhhna
(32,076 posts)riiiiiiiight.
Progressive dog
(6,904 posts)here [link:http://www.snopes.com/rumors/putcall.asp|
bemildred
(90,061 posts)Progressive dog
(6,904 posts)it's difficult to maintain conspiracy theories without lots of successful coverups. Conspiracy theories fall apart pretty quickly without evidence, so the theorists have to pretend that there is lots of evidence, the conspirators have just covered it up.
bemildred
(90,061 posts)Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)silvershadow
(10,336 posts)djean111
(14,255 posts)It is not like those things would be prosecuted, so why bother having evidence about them. The evidence that the NSA knows and does nothing would be sort of embarrassing, methinks. Well, inconvenient, I don't think the government gives a crap about what we think, really, unless it affects fund-raising, and with corporations able to openly buy politicians, even that is not a compelling thing.
FirstLight
(13,360 posts)I think we have a winner
There are LOTS of questions like that we get to ask now that the cards are on the table. WHY is MY email privvy to the Govt, but they don't investigate themselves? ...well they DO, that has been leaked too...so WHY hasn't the NSA used this info to prosecute the Bankers, et al...?
sibelian
(7,804 posts)magellan
(13,257 posts)HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)who posted on FB, communicated on cell phones, and who the US was pre-warned of by the Russians?
The answer to that ?, and the ones in the OP is quite simple. The surveillence system wasn't designed to catch terrorists, election thieves, or Wall St criminals. It is designed to spy on potential domestic threats....not dangerous ones like KKK, etc. but ones percieved to be politically embarrassing like Occupy, anti- Monsanto activists, Keystone XL protestors. IOW, the threats to the Corporate State.
randome
(34,845 posts)...looking for suspicious people. I think it's more likely that the metadata mostly serves as a way to find contacts after an event like the Boston Bombing.
And if the NSA is spying on all those groups you mention, why haven't they been able to shut them down?
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HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)That pretty much is its reason for existance. If it can do what its claimed to do, then there is no longer a need for it.
As to your second statement....has Occupy been in the headlines lately?
randome
(34,845 posts)Human slavery, international child pornography, organized crime, etc.
As for Occupy, they are free to do whatever they want. Except take over other cities' parks. I think most people were pretty tired of that.
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WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)truebluegreen
(9,033 posts)And what does Greenwald have to do with that?
Sancho
(9,070 posts)US security doesn't matter...only the wealthy!
Pholus
(4,062 posts)Is it okay to allow "mission creep" when pervasive surveillance is justified to keep us safe from terror?
Skittles
(153,160 posts)Chaco Dundee
(334 posts)They know about that and lots of other things;those are the very things they protect and hold in the highest regard.
snagglepuss
(12,704 posts)questionseverything
(9,654 posts)jim march has been long time election transparency advocate that is now connecting the dots on this nsa mess
http://legalschnauzer.blogspot.com/2013/07/was-fiery-death-of-journalist-michael.html
chimpymustgo
(12,774 posts)The tentacles of the octopus are revealed.
Of course, Michael Hastings was murdered.
questionseverything
(9,654 posts)i am fairly new at du and just want to pass on this important info
chimpymustgo
(12,774 posts)Rex
(65,616 posts)So they DON'T get investigated.