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flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
Thu Jul 4, 2013, 01:35 AM Jul 2013

Glenn Greenwald: New bombshell coming

Go ahead Glenn and lay it on us! What better day that the FOURTH OF JULY.

Another big National Security Agency scoop is coming soon, Glenn Greenwald said on Tuesday.

“Just wait a little bit, you’ll have it,” The Guardian journalist who broke the NSA surveillance story said on “Fox & Friends.”





http://www.politico.com/story/2013/07/glenn-greenwald-nsa-leak-edward-snowden-93648.html

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Glenn Greenwald: New bombshell coming (Original Post) flamingdem Jul 2013 OP
"said on Fox & Friends" Summer Hathaway Jul 2013 #1
If you missed it he was pushing the latest meme about Obama intimidating "whistleblowers" flamingdem Jul 2013 #3
So ... Summer Hathaway Jul 2013 #14
How inconvenient! GG shows his true colors: red, white and greenwald flamingdem Jul 2013 #28
And the fact that he thinks that ax Summer Hathaway Jul 2013 #32
hmmmm now we have connections to the story with Hong Kong, Moscow, Bolivia ...and now Faux News... VanillaRhapsody Jul 2013 #43
Seems like the obvious next station Summer Hathaway Jul 2013 #45
Duzy! VanillaRhapsody Jul 2013 #46
LMAO! Bobbie Jo Jul 2013 #57
So much for his "reporter" hat. Playing the tease is hardly the way to be taken seriously. MADem Jul 2013 #34
Yeah right. bravenak Jul 2013 #2
His bombshells are a bit of a flamingdem Jul 2013 #6
didn't he say this weeks ago ? why not just reveal it JI7 Jul 2013 #4
For whatever reason he said the other day that there wasn't much else to reveal flamingdem Jul 2013 #7
i don't think GG is happy with how wikileaks/assange got involved JI7 Jul 2013 #10
You mean that Assange grabbed the spotlight or flamingdem Jul 2013 #11
the spotlight mostly , but also the bad advice JI7 Jul 2013 #18
Good point. Greenwald might have realized just how the optics would hurt him flamingdem Jul 2013 #22
There's also the question, since he knew Moscow Eddie BEFORE he took the BHA job, MADem Jul 2013 #35
That's where I have to wonder if he had hacker friends flamingdem Jul 2013 #36
We will, eventually, get the full story. MADem Jul 2013 #41
thanks for the visual! VanillaRhapsody Jul 2013 #47
Yeah GG got mad that Snowden didn't want to dance with the date that brought him to the prom! VanillaRhapsody Jul 2013 #44
That's not what he said. He said he is not getting anything more from Snowden. morningfog Jul 2013 #52
Here's the link to that - 2 days ago he said this flamingdem Jul 2013 #8
GOLDSTEIN!!! frylock Jul 2013 #5
c'mom pwease weck my thwead flamingdem Jul 2013 #9
happy INDEPENDENCE day to you and yours! frylock Jul 2013 #15
The same to you and yours! flamingdem Jul 2013 #19
Let 'em have this thread. It's kind of like a BOG field trip DisgustipatedinCA Jul 2013 #62
You can't expect him to go on any of the other networks davidpdx Jul 2013 #12
Separate but connected: Snowden gave an interview to the flamingdem Jul 2013 #16
Fox & Friends? ellie Jul 2013 #13
Get your red hot tickets right here! G's got Ass-ange and Snowden all lined up ready to Cha Jul 2013 #17
Oh yay, the cartoonists are getting into it! flamingdem Jul 2013 #20
Happy Fourth of July, flamingdem.. it's going to be a Cha Jul 2013 #21
You too Cha! flamingdem Jul 2013 #23
Yeah, baby.. Malia will be 15 tomorrow~ Cha Jul 2013 #25
I do believe that we have entered~~~ sheshe2 Jul 2013 #24
Happy 4th sheshe2 flamingdem Jul 2013 #26
Okay! sheshe2 Jul 2013 #37
LOL, she! I waited on Rod Serling at an Italian Restaurant Cha Jul 2013 #29
good story. thanks! Whisp Jul 2013 #56
Well, Cha sheshe2 Jul 2013 #80
He was a cutie, she. I told him I didn't know who he was but the owner would Cha Jul 2013 #82
I LOVE your sense of humor flamingdem Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #27
It's Red, White and Greenwald for the Libertarian 4th of July! flamingdem Jul 2013 #30
Post removed Post removed Jul 2013 #31
He's certainly doing their work flamingdem Jul 2013 #38
It would be most interesting, indeed. BlueCaliDem Jul 2013 #39
Hmm. Just remembered that there is an extradiction treaty between Brazil flamingdem Jul 2013 #54
Oooh . . . GeeGee is going to need some serious traveling money should Snowden begin singing BlueCaliDem Jul 2013 #55
ASKING YOU AGAIN Skittles Jul 2013 #61
That shit just got hidden above. The Link Jul 2013 #64
HELL YES Skittles Jul 2013 #68
Great Caesar's Ghost! A post hidden for saying something about GREENWALD??! Number23 Jul 2013 #72
I just saw that hidden post Summer Hathaway Jul 2013 #73
Wow, so now it's gay to call him GeeGee, I can see Gigi but not flamingdem Jul 2013 #75
Is THAT what this is about? Summer Hathaway Jul 2013 #76
I can't find it.. ? nt flamingdem Jul 2013 #74
This site is looking increasingly like it should be renamed Jamaal510 Jul 2013 #77
I'm just curious Skittles Jul 2013 #48
Homophobe. And he's getting away with it over and over again. Luminous Animal Jul 2013 #50
thanks for the tip!!! Skittles Jul 2013 #60
Original instance was hidden. The Link Jul 2013 #65
These Greenwald threads are like Sunday Morning at Westboror Baptist Bluenorthwest Jul 2013 #79
At least they've been consistent. noamnety Jul 2013 #58
WTF - a DUer said that???? Skittles Jul 2013 #59
Some things are beyond predictable. noamnety Jul 2013 #67
Years of this, here is the quote and a link Bluenorthwest Jul 2013 #78
so - gay folk can get on the bus, as long as they sit in the back Skittles Jul 2013 #81
K & R SunSeeker Jul 2013 #33
Oh, and K&R, flamingdem. BlueCaliDem Jul 2013 #40
Well obviously anything said on Fox and Friends must be true! AnnieK401 Jul 2013 #42
Oh, let's hope! Oilwellian Jul 2013 #53
If it's a danger to civil liberties, why the wait? CakeGrrl Jul 2013 #49
Excellent point! Whisp Jul 2013 #63
Excellent damn point, Cake. Could it be Cha Jul 2013 #70
Julian has some of those, too treestar Jul 2013 #51
Didn't Assange claim to have the goods on BoA and Rupert Murdoch? Scurrilous Jul 2013 #71
He's beginning to sound like BecKKK, always with the something-coming-I-can't-tell-you-yet!1 n/t UTUSN Jul 2013 #66
Fux??? L0oniX Jul 2013 #69

Summer Hathaway

(2,770 posts)
1. "said on Fox & Friends"
Thu Jul 4, 2013, 01:50 AM
Jul 2013

Gee, I wonder why GG thought he'd find a more receptive audience on the Republican propaganda network?

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
3. If you missed it he was pushing the latest meme about Obama intimidating "whistleblowers"
Thu Jul 4, 2013, 01:55 AM
Jul 2013

Glenn Greenwald rips Obama on ‘Fox & Friends’ for trying to ‘intimidate’ whistleblowers

The Guardian columnist who broke the story of Edward Snowden’s National Security Agency leaks told Fox & Friends on Tuesday that President Barack Obama was pursuing the leaker to “intimidate future whistleblowers.”

Glenn Greenwald explained to Fox News host Eric Bolling that more NSA leaks were coming soon and that there were “vast programs of both domestic and international spying that the world will be shocked to learn about that the NSA is engaged in without democratic accountability.”

Bolling wondered if the Obama administration even wanted Snowden to return to the U.S. “or is that going to look bad for them to have him in a U.S. court?”


“I think what the Obama administration wants and has been trying to establish for almost five years now with the unprecedented war on whistleblowers that it is waging is to make it so that everybody is petrified of coming forward with information about what our political officials are doing in the dark that is deceitful, illegal or corrupt,” Greenwald said. “They don’t care about Edward Snowden at this point. He can no longer do anything that that he hasn’t already done.”

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/07/02/glenn-greenwald-rips-obama-on-fox-friends-for-trying-to-intimidate-whistleblowers/

Summer Hathaway

(2,770 posts)
14. So ...
Thu Jul 4, 2013, 02:10 AM
Jul 2013

GG is saying that more NSA leaks were coming soon and that ... the world will be shocked to learn about.", at the same time he's saying "They don’t care about Edward Snowden at this point. He can no longer do anything that that he hasn’t already done.”

I think the contradiction is obvious.

But what I find truly intriguing is that GG, extolled by many here as the voice who speaks truth-to-power, is hawking his wares on a 'news' outlet known to be the propaganda arm of the Republican party.




flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
28. How inconvenient! GG shows his true colors: red, white and greenwald
Thu Jul 4, 2013, 03:03 AM
Jul 2013

I'm not sure I can accuse him of being after the Greenback, I think it's some kind of attention, and that's more insidious! He's got an ax to grind bigger than the Green Giant!

Summer Hathaway

(2,770 posts)
32. And the fact that he thinks that ax
Thu Jul 4, 2013, 03:13 AM
Jul 2013

can be better honed on a Republican stronghold of a "news outlet" speaks volumes.

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
43. hmmmm now we have connections to the story with Hong Kong, Moscow, Bolivia ...and now Faux News...
Thu Jul 4, 2013, 04:12 AM
Jul 2013

Next stop Alex Jones's underground bunker/lair?

Summer Hathaway

(2,770 posts)
45. Seems like the obvious next station
Thu Jul 4, 2013, 04:17 AM
Jul 2013

on the Crazytown Express, right after Paranoiaville and Persecution Complex City.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
34. So much for his "reporter" hat. Playing the tease is hardly the way to be taken seriously.
Thu Jul 4, 2013, 03:22 AM
Jul 2013

Then again, it is "Fox and Friends."

Glenn Greenwald of the CATO Institute shows us he knows what side his bread is buttered on, and who is doing the buttering.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
2. Yeah right.
Thu Jul 4, 2013, 01:54 AM
Jul 2013

He sho do like some attenshun! I agree with him sometimes but he's making it hard to take him seriously. Besides I love Obama, he hates Obama, I just don't think it will work out between us. I've been waiting for him to say something I didn't already know.

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
7. For whatever reason he said the other day that there wasn't much else to reveal
Thu Jul 4, 2013, 02:00 AM
Jul 2013

at the same time he made this statement.

Poor Eddie Snowden is of course counting on the fact that he's still got some value! Fine friend he has with GG

JI7

(89,250 posts)
18. the spotlight mostly , but also the bad advice
Thu Jul 4, 2013, 02:12 AM
Jul 2013

just because he has to deal with answering it now.

i don't think he wanted snowden to reveal the stuff about us spying on others, e specially places like china and give that info to china.

i think GG mostly wanted to make it about how Obama is spying on americans . but now he has to deal with these other things which makes one seem kind of stupid and hypocritical.

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
22. Good point. Greenwald might have realized just how the optics would hurt him
Thu Jul 4, 2013, 02:17 AM
Jul 2013

I posted this below, your post made me think of this at first. The set up in Hong Kong was different than what we have now. Assange was seemingly distant. I suspect Snowden had his own connections with hackers there.


Then Snowden gave an interview to the South China Morning Post, owned by Rupert Murdoch's News Corp. -- kind of a connection to what we see Greenwald doing with Fox -- but what has never been clear are the terms of the admission of hacking by the USA. If that was his exit from China strategy or what. Greenwald at the time said he had to ingratiate himself with the Chinese (maybe in order to stay). But I can see that Greenwald knew it was a strategic error

MADem

(135,425 posts)
35. There's also the question, since he knew Moscow Eddie BEFORE he took the BHA job,
Thu Jul 4, 2013, 03:27 AM
Jul 2013

if he had any role in goading/baiting the guy into doing what he did. From looking at Snowden's previous online conversations, he doesn't have self-esteem issues, and he does affect that "smartest guy in the room" attitude. So...did he just jump...or was he pushed?

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
36. That's where I have to wonder if he had hacker friends
Thu Jul 4, 2013, 03:32 AM
Jul 2013

who were helping or encouraging him.. and of course Greenwald who smelled a bigger story via BHA.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
41. We will, eventually, get the full story.
Thu Jul 4, 2013, 03:58 AM
Jul 2013

Assuming he doesn't try to drown himself in an airport crapper, or attack someone in the airport in order to be jailed in Russia...! Of course, in the latter eventuality, they'd probably just deport the guy.

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
44. Yeah GG got mad that Snowden didn't want to dance with the date that brought him to the prom!
Thu Jul 4, 2013, 04:15 AM
Jul 2013

Instead when he got there he fell for that "dreamy" Assange guy </snark>

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
52. That's not what he said. He said he is not getting anything more from Snowden.
Thu Jul 4, 2013, 08:37 AM
Jul 2013

He has info from SNowden that he has not released though.

 

DisgustipatedinCA

(12,530 posts)
62. Let 'em have this thread. It's kind of like a BOG field trip
Thu Jul 4, 2013, 01:06 PM
Jul 2013

And it lets them practice their talking points. The two minutes of hate is no fun at all when contradictory viewpoints are introduced.

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
16. Separate but connected: Snowden gave an interview to the
Thu Jul 4, 2013, 02:11 AM
Jul 2013

The South China Morning Post, owned by Rupert Murdoch's News Corp. and I wonder about those connections to Greenwald. That was when he revealed information about US hacking in Hong Kong and China.

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
20. Oh yay, the cartoonists are getting into it!
Thu Jul 4, 2013, 02:14 AM
Jul 2013

Granlund has Assange down, in all aspects! Happy 4th!

Cha

(297,275 posts)
21. Happy Fourth of July, flamingdem.. it's going to be a
Thu Jul 4, 2013, 02:17 AM
Jul 2013

beautiful day! Part of it is me being grateful we have Obama as POTUS!

sheshe2

(83,785 posts)
37. Okay!
Thu Jul 4, 2013, 03:34 AM
Jul 2013

I was trying to go to sleep...but couldn't. I logged back on. and here I am

Thanks I so needed that!

Happy 4th~flamingdem!

Cha

(297,275 posts)
29. LOL, she! I waited on Rod Serling at an Italian Restaurant
Thu Jul 4, 2013, 03:05 AM
Jul 2013

in Gainseville, Florida one evening back in the day. He brought students in from the University. I asked for his autograph on a menu. Good fun!

He called the restaurant later that night and asked if I could join him for a drink with his friends. Alas I had to say no because I was married!

I might know I was that close to the Twilight Zone. roflmao!

she

sheshe2

(83,785 posts)
80. Well, Cha
Fri Jul 5, 2013, 10:47 AM
Jul 2013

you must have made quite the impression on Rod Serling. Handsome man, was he not~

Just think, you could have become Mrs Cha Serling. Living your life in the Twilight Zone and opening doors with the key to your imagination! Living in a whole new dimension, wow how surreal is that!

A simple twist of fate sigh, you were married~~~~~

Cha

(297,275 posts)
82. He was a cutie, she. I told him I didn't know who he was but the owner would
Fri Jul 5, 2013, 05:34 PM
Jul 2013

like his autograph.. he got a kick out of that.

We were living in California home two years later and I learned he had passed on from a heart attack in 1975. I was shocked!

I looked him up just now to find out that date(and really where I was living at the time) and saw where he was married, too! So, it would have been just a friendly little get together.

Turns out he was quite the activist.. and he was only 4 years younger than my Mom.

I always think of him though when I'm having one of my own personal little Twilight Zones.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rod_Serling






 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
27. I LOVE your sense of humor flamingdem
Thu Jul 4, 2013, 03:01 AM
Jul 2013

This should be fun

Lay it on us, Glenn.

I'll be waiting patiently

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
30. It's Red, White and Greenwald for the Libertarian 4th of July!
Thu Jul 4, 2013, 03:08 AM
Jul 2013

Wonder if he'll think of his buddie over there in the Moscow pod hotel when the fireworks are a blazin'! If Snowball isn't homesick by now..

Response to flamingdem (Original post)

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
38. He's certainly doing their work
Thu Jul 4, 2013, 03:34 AM
Jul 2013

and we can only hope the Snowden situation snowballs into his work being examined and especially his role regarding knowing what was up before Snowball took the job at BAH

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
39. It would be most interesting, indeed.
Thu Jul 4, 2013, 03:48 AM
Jul 2013

Maybe that's the reason why GeeGee is now openly courting Murdoch's propaganda channel as well? Hoping to keep friends in high places purely out of self-preservation just in case s**t hits the fan - and even a mediocre lawyer like himself knows that the noose is slowly tightening around his neck. I know, pure speculation on my part {maybe even wishful thinking}, but it's not a far-fetched scenario considering how important Republicans and TeaBaggers believe themselves to be, first and foremost and above and beyond everything and everyone else.

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
54. Hmm. Just remembered that there is an extradiction treaty between Brazil
Thu Jul 4, 2013, 11:33 AM
Jul 2013

and the USA. Greenwald may end up in Russia too!

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
55. Oooh . . . GeeGee is going to need some serious traveling money should Snowden begin singing
Thu Jul 4, 2013, 11:58 AM
Jul 2013

like a canary and it turns out that GeeGee is more involved with Snowden's espionage than first thought.

Murdoch just might provide him with the much-needed moolah for those long, long trips and extended stays at airports.

Number23

(24,544 posts)
72. Great Caesar's Ghost! A post hidden for saying something about GREENWALD??!
Thu Jul 4, 2013, 07:40 PM
Jul 2013

Where's the rubbing my eyes in shock smiley?

Oh my God, people can infer that the Democratically elected president is an affirmative action placement who also happens to be a Nazi, is an "empty vessel" that's a slave to the 1% and is trying to kill old people but voicing displeasure with GLEN GREENWALD is the one that gets a hidden post??!!

WHAT the...

Summer Hathaway

(2,770 posts)
73. I just saw that hidden post
Thu Jul 4, 2013, 09:03 PM
Jul 2013

and had exactly the same reaction.

Looks like the jury system is "fair and balanced", too.

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
75. Wow, so now it's gay to call him GeeGee, I can see Gigi but not
Thu Jul 4, 2013, 09:14 PM
Jul 2013

GeeGee. That's ridiculous, someone was tres bored last night!

Summer Hathaway

(2,770 posts)
76. Is THAT what this is about?
Thu Jul 4, 2013, 09:25 PM
Jul 2013

Seriously?

When did referring to someone by spelling out their initials as words become a homophobic slur??

And now the ultimate question: What did the BeeGees know, and when did they know it?



Skittles

(153,164 posts)
48. I'm just curious
Thu Jul 4, 2013, 04:43 AM
Jul 2013

but why "GeeGee"? Why not simply spell his name out or say GG? Or are you a homophobe?

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
79. These Greenwald threads are like Sunday Morning at Westboror Baptist
Thu Jul 4, 2013, 10:30 PM
Jul 2013

Except for all the emoticons they use....

 

noamnety

(20,234 posts)
58. At least they've been consistent.
Thu Jul 4, 2013, 12:15 PM
Jul 2013

"Gay marriage is for me unthinkable"

They aren't homophobic, as I'm sure they'll let you know. They just don't think gays are, you know, equal to everyone else.

 

noamnety

(20,234 posts)
67. Some things are beyond predictable.
Thu Jul 4, 2013, 01:31 PM
Jul 2013

I knew from the nonstop repetition of greenwald's name as a feminine name that they'd have something to say against gay marriage. They were okay with civil unions, just not marriage because it's against the bible.

Sort of like Paula Deen with the N word - you know it's not just a word, there's a whole pattern there, but she can't see it because she has a black friend.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
78. Years of this, here is the quote and a link
Thu Jul 4, 2013, 10:25 PM
Jul 2013

BlueCaliDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 03:14 PM
"Gay marriage is for me unthinkable, but Civil Unions have my 100% vote. I believe that marriage is something done in churches, and the Bible does speak negatively about homosexuality.
However, allowed to be "married" by a Mayor, or a power-invested civil servant for gays, and lesbians, is right, and good.?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1352110

Skittles

(153,164 posts)
81. so - gay folk can get on the bus, as long as they sit in the back
Fri Jul 5, 2013, 01:08 PM
Jul 2013

niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice

yup - that's those self-congratulating kind of homophobes who think they're being simply SWELL by allowing civil unions while thumping the Bible!!!

 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
63. Excellent point!
Thu Jul 4, 2013, 01:08 PM
Jul 2013

So much for his saving the world.

Yeh, I'll save the world, but I have to get my milk first!

what a putz.
what a sleazy creep.

Cha

(297,275 posts)
70. Excellent damn point, Cake. Could it be
Thu Jul 4, 2013, 05:20 PM
Jul 2013

because Snowden needs a bargaining chip for a future country?

But, we're so in Danger, Danger!

treestar

(82,383 posts)
51. Julian has some of those, too
Thu Jul 4, 2013, 08:33 AM
Jul 2013

He's been holding onto these exciting revelations for at least a year.

It's SOP for these types.

Yet they never reveal it, just keep dangling it, because it gets them attention.

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