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uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 08:26 PM Jul 2013

You know what? It's not just Zimmerman.

It is the fact that nothing was done for over a month until public opinion picked up and demanded it. It was the evidence collected being held improperly, getting moldy. It is not doing drug or alcohol testing on the one who shot and killed but only on the one killed. It is the sweeping under the rug-ness of it, whether due to racism, cop-ism, family string, whatever. It is not just Zimmy getting away with it and having absolutely no remorse. It is not just the way the father was FINALLY notified or how long it took.

It is the whole thing. Not just the lies and the lying lier. But the whole unfairness of it all. It is proof again that the system, while better than some, is rigged so badly that you can kill someone based on false assumptions and get by with it. You can do whatever you want, if you live in the right place, with the right people in positions of power.

We have come so far and have so far yet to go.

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You know what? It's not just Zimmerman. (Original Post) uppityperson Jul 2013 OP
You can tell the prosecution is trying to protect the cops from embarassment Bjorn Against Jul 2013 #1
I feel the same way in terms of the outcome davidpdx Jul 2013 #9
As I recall, Brigid Jul 2013 #2
Exactly. And the precedent it sets if GZ walks. MH1 Jul 2013 #3
especially since Voting rights are open to attack DonCoquixote Jul 2013 #7
Excellent and scary point. nt MH1 Jul 2013 #13
or shoot a friend in the face while hunting, hollysmom Jul 2013 #4
The hardest thing for me to watch, besides a kid being dead, was how Rachel Jeantel was treated. reusrename Jul 2013 #5
I agree davidpdx Jul 2013 #8
Yes and no...It was ALEC and their goddamn stand your grounds lasw they are passing rustydog Jul 2013 #6
I just think they wanted the whole thing to just go away Mr.Bill Jul 2013 #10
You're right... it's not just Zimmerman. ReRe Jul 2013 #11
Well said. Your right it's not just Zimmerman..... Little Star Jul 2013 #12
As a kid growing up madokie Jul 2013 #14
Damn skippy alcibiades_mystery Jul 2013 #15
K&R! Very nice post. Enthusiast Jul 2013 #16
Zimmerman is the least of it! hedgehog Jul 2013 #17
THANK YOU Skittles Jul 2013 #18
kick uppityperson Jul 2013 #19
Another kick n/t malaise Jul 2013 #21
Kick & recommended. William769 Jul 2013 #20
k&r HappyMe Jul 2013 #22

Bjorn Against

(12,041 posts)
1. You can tell the prosecution is trying to protect the cops from embarassment
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 08:35 PM
Jul 2013

They should have grilled the cops as to why they went so easy on Zimmerman, instead they allowed them to tell the jury all kinds of nice things about Zimmerman without serious confrontation. The evidence against Zimmerman is overwhelming so this should be an open and shut case, but I worry Zimmerman will walk in large part because the prosecution won't take up any line of questioning that might embarrass the police.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
9. I feel the same way in terms of the outcome
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 11:08 PM
Jul 2013

I've gone a step further and saying I don't think there will be a conviction or acquittal. It's going to end up deadlocked with a mistrial.

Brigid

(17,621 posts)
2. As I recall,
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 08:40 PM
Jul 2013

Reverend All was instrumental in getting this case into the public eye and getting an investigation going.

MH1

(17,600 posts)
3. Exactly. And the precedent it sets if GZ walks.
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 08:42 PM
Jul 2013

Wannabe enforcers will be all over the place ready to shoot someone who looks at them cross-eyed.

I still don't believe that TM started the fight. (Why would he have kept talking on the phone if he was going to start a fight??? Makes no f*cking sense.)

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
7. especially since Voting rights are open to attack
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 11:03 PM
Jul 2013

You think there are not people getting together on how to legally shoot a black voter right in time to scare people away from the polls?

hollysmom

(5,946 posts)
4. or shoot a friend in the face while hunting,
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 09:18 PM
Jul 2013

then refuse to talk to the police for 24 hours. (no drug/alcohol test then)

 

reusrename

(1,716 posts)
5. The hardest thing for me to watch, besides a kid being dead, was how Rachel Jeantel was treated.
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 10:26 PM
Jul 2013

She nailed it.

Why didn't any of the cops speak to her that first night?

They were closing ranks around their pal Zimmerman.

People mock her for noticing the truth.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
8. I agree
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 11:07 PM
Jul 2013

She clearly did not want to be there and who could blame her. Her friend was killed and now she has to testify about it. Very traumatic.

rustydog

(9,186 posts)
6. Yes and no...It was ALEC and their goddamn stand your grounds lasw they are passing
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 10:55 PM
Jul 2013

in state after state. In Texasss, you can shoot a car prowler. In florida, you gotta be skeered of the black, I mean Bad guy. No in fear of your life, just skeered and now want to run away from danger.

Zippie, I mean Zimmie didn't do any of these, he INSTIGATED the contact and ensuing struggle...

Mr.Bill

(24,292 posts)
10. I just think they wanted the whole thing to just go away
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 11:27 PM
Jul 2013

because it would taint their neighborhood wanna be cop watch program.

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
11. You're right... it's not just Zimmerman.
Thu Jul 4, 2013, 12:31 AM
Jul 2013

Had folks not marched around all over this country, there would never have been a trial. The SOB would have walked. Why did the PD NOT take GZ to the hospital? Why did they NOT get a drug test on GZ? His state of mind at the time should have been a big factor in this trial, but sure enough... not an effing word. Why? That should be standard practice all the way around. Hell, why hasn't the PD been on the stand answering that question? That investigator should have been asked these questions! What about all that money GZ took in? And I'm not real crazy about this damn Judge. She seems intimidated by the Defense team. Why did the Judge let the Defense team badger Trayvon's friend who was talking to him when it all went down?

Hell, I'm not even impressed by the Prosecuting team. Seems like they can't make an objection that will stick, if they object at all!

Little Star

(17,055 posts)
12. Well said. Your right it's not just Zimmerman.....
Thu Jul 4, 2013, 06:52 AM
Jul 2013

this whole thing stinks to high heaven. Lets hope the jury can see some of it because so far the prosecution has done a piss poor job of telling the whole story. Hell they don't even object to things almost like their hands are tied behind their backs.

I've never seen anything like it.

madokie

(51,076 posts)
14. As a kid growing up
Thu Jul 4, 2013, 08:12 AM
Jul 2013

I heard that if you wanted to off someone all you had to do is come to this county and do it cause you would get away with it. I heard this a thousand times if I heard it once. I no longer hear talk like this but 50, 60 years ago I did.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
16. K&R! Very nice post.
Thu Jul 4, 2013, 04:56 PM
Jul 2013

The drug testing thing tells us a lot. More than many wish to acknowledge.

The stand your ground law is not workable in a racially charged area. It's an unconstitutional law anywhere.

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
19. kick
Wed Jul 10, 2013, 03:14 PM
Jul 2013

to see if this has gotten into archives or will it show on GD forum page. Yup, still shows. Good. So, self kick

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