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maxsolomon

(33,400 posts)
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 02:22 PM Jul 2013

Morsi: Do I have this sequence right?

Mubarak was overthrown by the protestors, some of whom were the Muslim Brotherhood, but not most.

There were democratic elections, Morsi won, the Muslim Brotherhood won control of the Legislature.

The US supported the results of the election, as did the rest of the world, even though we knew that the Muslim Brotherhood is a bunch of Islamist douchbags.

The MB rammed through a new Constitution, started to impose an Islamist state, and started oppressing the more Liberal opposition.

Protests begin anew, at unprecedented size. Counter-protests start, the MB deploys thugs to beat/rape/kill protestors, their HQ is ransacked.

The Army, AKA the "Deep State", demands compromise, and is ready to depose a democratically-elected leader, and hit the reset button.

Despite my loathing for monotheist conservatives and their penchant for imposing their stone age morality on everyone else, I worry that deposing a legitimately elected president is a bad precedent.

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Morsi: Do I have this sequence right? (Original Post) maxsolomon Jul 2013 OP
There are some questions on the legitimacy of that election. morningfog Jul 2013 #1
Certainly a learning curve for the Egyptian people not used to 'real' voting railsback Jul 2013 #2
the military was involved much earlier underminding democracy Pretzel_Warrior Jul 2013 #3
 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
1. There are some questions on the legitimacy of that election.
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 02:26 PM
Jul 2013

Also, it was the first nearly legitimate election in decades. When things went sour, the people weren't primed to sit a take it like we are in the US. Our elections function as superficial pressure releases. We know that in less than four years time, we can get a new president. We have changed party of presidents often.

Egypt doesn't have the same history or complacency.

 

railsback

(1,881 posts)
2. Certainly a learning curve for the Egyptian people not used to 'real' voting
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 03:16 PM
Jul 2013

Elections have consequences. Let's see if they learned anything.

 

Pretzel_Warrior

(8,361 posts)
3. the military was involved much earlier underminding democracy
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 03:19 PM
Jul 2013

remember how after Mubarak was deposed the military was running things for awhile and the people ran out onto the streets to say "no way"?

well, the military relented as the world watched, but they also kept working on how best to retain their power and most of this tragic post revolution drama has been mostly about power struggles between strong military and islamists. same as it ever was. And then the regular people on the street are not getting anything close to what they had hoped for when they protested and demanded democracy.

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