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Hissyspit

(45,788 posts)
Mon Jul 1, 2013, 05:20 PM Jul 2013

AP PHOTO: A Procession of the Vehicles Carrying Bodies of the Firefighters Who Died in AZ



A procession carrying the bodies of the firefighters who died Sunday fighting the Yarnell Hill Fire heads down Grand Ave. toward the Maricopa County Medical Examiner's office on Monday, July 1, 2013. Nineteen firefighters have died in the Yarnell Hill Fire that has ripped through half of the town and sent residents to Prescott for safety. (AP Photo/The Arizona Republic, Mark Henle)

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/files/photos/B/bea077e8-87f9-41aa-aae5-b2bc6e8a777c.html
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AP PHOTO: A Procession of the Vehicles Carrying Bodies of the Firefighters Who Died in AZ (Original Post) Hissyspit Jul 2013 OP
Heavens.. how sad is that... hlthe2b Jul 2013 #1
we had a fire in milw in the 80's. i think about 17 died, mostly children. pansypoo53219 Jul 2013 #55
. Skittles Jul 2013 #2
.. nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #3
Very nice nadin, thank you. Rebellious Republican Jul 2013 #15
This one VA_Jill Jul 2013 #59
Too sad malaise Jul 2013 #4
Indeed. n/t Tansy_Gold Jul 2013 #5
So tragic. dipsydoodle Jul 2013 #6
So very sad~ sheshe2 Jul 2013 #7
It;s a dirty, dangerous job and the pay is pathetic. mountain grammy Jul 2013 #8
Devastating. oldandhappy Jul 2013 #9
. myrna minx Jul 2013 #10
Damn. KittyWampus Jul 2013 #11
Very sad. kentuck Jul 2013 #12
... Whisp Jul 2013 #13
Portable shelters couldn't save 19 firefighters RC Jul 2013 #14
We call them shake and bake tents.... Rebellious Republican Jul 2013 #19
Raise a glass or light a candle to the memory of these brave gentlemen. LongTomH Jul 2013 #16
I hope this isn't innappropriate. secondvariety Jul 2013 #17
secondvariety, I am as macho as they come... Rebellious Republican Jul 2013 #18
that video must be getting a lot of play today--I started typing "cold mi" and it came up niyad Jul 2013 #22
NOW that I have had a chance to compose myself.... Rebellious Republican Jul 2013 #23
It was the first thing I thought of. lapislzi Jul 2013 #26
I have read it, and the Mann Gulch blowup is taught to this day. Rebellious Republican Jul 2013 #28
Interestingly enough, Hissyspit Jul 2013 #46
Also check out John McLean's (son of Norman) "Fire On the Mountain" truebluegreen Jul 2013 #53
my heart goes out to their loved ones and friends. what a blow to this community to lose such niyad Jul 2013 #20
Heroes, every one. JDPriestly Jul 2013 #21
Cause we are at the cause of them nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #27
Thanks Nadin, Rebellious Republican Jul 2013 #39
JD, please this is not the time or place. Rebellious Republican Jul 2013 #32
You win! Rebellious Republican Jul 2013 #40
Must be BOTS, because anything human has a heart! Rebellious Republican Jul 2013 #44
So I guess you have gone to bed for the night. Rebellious Republican Jul 2013 #42
WTF does the NSA have to do with it? Rebellious Republican Jul 2013 #41
We are spending millions on funding NSA wild goose chases JDPriestly Jul 2013 #47
"They seem to get worse each year" OnlinePoker Jul 2013 #50
The year isn't over, truebluegreen Jul 2013 #54
Thanks. JDPriestly Jul 2013 #56
Hmm fail, not according to Cal Fire nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #60
Do you have a link? OnlinePoker Jul 2013 #61
Yup nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #62
I went on the Cal Fire Site OnlinePoker Jul 2013 #63
When you get a chance to slither around this way, I will be waiting! Rebellious Republican Jul 2013 #43
this week also marks the 19th anniversary of the storm king mountain fire, where 14 firefighters niyad Jul 2013 #24
sweet Jesus ZRT2209 Jul 2013 #25
so sad Liberal_in_LA Jul 2013 #29
Public servants risk their lives to help their communities. Corporate employees don't. kestrel91316 Jul 2013 #30
How much does a 1 percenter think it is worth paying firefighters? Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2013 #31
+1 shireen Jul 2013 #57
What a sad procession. Beacool Jul 2013 #33
Firefighters Memorial ThoughtCriminal Jul 2013 #34
That is a wild land firefighter memorial. Rebellious Republican Jul 2013 #38
OMG! so terribly, terribly sad... chillfactor Jul 2013 #35
No words ReRe Jul 2013 #36
Words fail me. ChazInAz Jul 2013 #37
Very Sad! burrowowl Jul 2013 #45
RIP dear ones :( Fire Walk With Me Jul 2013 #48
No words can convey bluedeathray Jul 2013 #49
May those noble souls stand in the light. sarge43 Jul 2013 #51
This is especially sad for me.... blueamy66 Jul 2013 #52
K&R midnight Jul 2013 #58

hlthe2b

(102,292 posts)
1. Heavens.. how sad is that...
Mon Jul 1, 2013, 05:22 PM
Jul 2013


May there be a place of peace awaiting these heroic and selfless people.

pansypoo53219

(20,981 posts)
55. we had a fire in milw in the 80's. i think about 17 died, mostly children.
Tue Jul 2, 2013, 02:08 PM
Jul 2013

i was waiting for the bus when the funeral hearses were on the way to the cemetery. you'd be in tears if you saw it in AZ.

mountain grammy

(26,623 posts)
8. It;s a dirty, dangerous job and the pay is pathetic.
Mon Jul 1, 2013, 06:17 PM
Jul 2013

These firefighter have my undying gratitude and utmost respect.

 

RC

(25,592 posts)
14. Portable shelters couldn't save 19 firefighters
Mon Jul 1, 2013, 06:27 PM
Jul 2013
By FELICIA FONSECA and HANNAH DREIER
Associated Press

PRESCOTT, Ariz. (AP) -- Trapped by a wildfire that exploded tenfold in a matter of hours, a crack team of firefighting "Hotshots" broke out their portable emergency shelters and rushed to climb into the foil-lined, heat-resistant bags before the flames swept over them.

By the time the blaze had passed, 19 men lay dead in the nation's biggest loss of firefighters in a wildfire in 80 years.

The tragedy Sunday evening all but wiped out the 20-member Granite Mountain Hotshots, a unit based at Prescott, authorities said Monday as the last of the bodies were retrieved from the mountain in the town of Yarnell. Only one member survived, and that was because he was moving the unit's truck at the time.

The deaths plunged the two small towns into mourning as the wildfire continued to threaten one of them, Yarnell. Arizona's governor called it "as dark a day as I can remember" and ordered flags flown at half-staff. In a heartbreaking sight, a line of white vans carried the bodies to Phoenix for autopsies.

More at: http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_FIREFIGHTERS_KILLED?SITE=AZCAS&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2013-07-01-18-18-33
 

Rebellious Republican

(5,029 posts)
18. secondvariety, I am as macho as they come...
Mon Jul 1, 2013, 07:13 PM
Jul 2013

I would like to post an intelligent reply, but it is kinda hard to see the keyboard through the tears that you caused. Very poignant!!!Very apropos!!!

Very nice, thank you.

On third edit: I wasn't kidding about the tears!

 

Rebellious Republican

(5,029 posts)
23. NOW that I have had a chance to compose myself....
Mon Jul 1, 2013, 07:38 PM
Jul 2013

You don't know how many times I pulled out of my drive in my F150 with my wife looking on in support, yet wondering.
It shows a structural firefighter in the video, but we are all brothers and sisters defending our community.



lapislzi

(5,762 posts)
26. It was the first thing I thought of.
Mon Jul 1, 2013, 07:49 PM
Jul 2013

If you can get hold of a copy of Norman McLean's "Young Men and Fire," read it. It is a fascinating and horrifying look at what firefighters in the wilderness face.

When the details come out, I wonder how similar conditions were to those that caused the Mann Gulch blowup.

Peace and healing to the families of the fallen.

Hissyspit

(45,788 posts)
46. Interestingly enough,
Tue Jul 2, 2013, 03:20 AM
Jul 2013

despite the fact that I have no connection personally to smokejumpers/wild land firefighters, I have read the book, too.

 

truebluegreen

(9,033 posts)
53. Also check out John McLean's (son of Norman) "Fire On the Mountain"
Tue Jul 2, 2013, 11:12 AM
Jul 2013

about the Storm King fire in Colorado in 1994?. The lessons of Mann Gulch are not always remembered.

niyad

(113,342 posts)
20. my heart goes out to their loved ones and friends. what a blow to this community to lose such
Mon Jul 1, 2013, 07:28 PM
Jul 2013

brave and courageous people.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
21. Heroes, every one.
Mon Jul 1, 2013, 07:29 PM
Jul 2013

Why isn't NSA doing more to prevent these fires, using its resources to prevent these killer, devastating fires instead of creating a database of our metadata.

Seems to me that preventing these fires would make us more secure than that crazy database.

 

Rebellious Republican

(5,029 posts)
32. JD, please this is not the time or place.
Mon Jul 1, 2013, 08:13 PM
Jul 2013

You have little knowledge about what is happening with wildfires out west and why, I could quote volumes about the subject, I am a professional. You are grandstanding in the WRONG FUCKING place. Just go away, you are a very callous POS coming to this post with that BS. You want to start a FLAME WAR then start with me. Yes I am alerting your post to the mods, asshole!

 

Rebellious Republican

(5,029 posts)
40. You win!
Mon Jul 1, 2013, 10:13 PM
Jul 2013

Guess it does not matter that this was off topic or insensitive to a memorial post about 19 fallen firefighters and their families. I will probably get tombstoned for this, but wtf do I care at this point.

At Mon Jul 1, 2013, 08:23 PM you sent an alert on the following post:

Heroes, every one.
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Thank you.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
47. We are spending millions on funding NSA wild goose chases
Tue Jul 2, 2013, 03:48 AM
Jul 2013

when we should be dealing with the infrastructure, social, growth, environmental and safety issues that lead to these fires.

I live in Los Angeles. I do understand these fires.

In my view these fires are a national security issue of first importance. They seem to get worse each year.

That is why I posted this. I think we should spend our money on the professionals that fight these fires -- on their equipment, on their safety, rather than some of the other boondoggles that are sold to us as vital to our national security.

OnlinePoker

(5,722 posts)
50. "They seem to get worse each year"
Tue Jul 2, 2013, 10:30 AM
Jul 2013

This year is the lowest number of fires in 10 years and the second lowest acreage burned in 10 years.

http://www.nifc.gov/fireInfo/nfn.htm

 

truebluegreen

(9,033 posts)
54. The year isn't over,
Tue Jul 2, 2013, 11:18 AM
Jul 2013

even though we are getting a slower start so far.

I've been driving through / camping / etc in a lot of Colorado and New Mexico in the last few years and believe me, they are tinderboxes ready to go up...and it is only the beginning of July.

If big fires start in those areas now they will probably burn until the snow flies.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
56. Thanks.
Tue Jul 2, 2013, 02:26 PM
Jul 2013

I will tell you that in LA, we clear our lots and watch for fires.

Maybe the reduction in the numbers of fires is due to the fact that so much of the forest near our homes has already burned. I live in the city, not in a fire-prone area.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
62. Yup
Tue Jul 2, 2013, 11:14 PM
Jul 2013
http://calfire.ca.gov/communications/downloads/newsreleases/2013/DryWinter2013.pdf

You can also follow the Cal Fire Report on twitter...

I also cover these suckers for a local paper, and I have been told this by Fire Officials as well.

Off the record, it is the same in Baja California Norte, where response is up.

OnlinePoker

(5,722 posts)
63. I went on the Cal Fire Site
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 09:32 AM
Jul 2013

Currently there is only one active fire in the whole state which is 95% contained. California has had 62 fires this year with a total acreage burned of 89809 acres. Of the 62 fires, 2 were reported as 60 small fires due to light strikes (0 acres burned) and 28 small fires from one tree to 4 acres between 10 and 14 June. Is it hot and dry? You bet it is, but to date there haven't been an overabundance of fires as a result. The season is still early, though, with people making their way into the wilds for summer vacation.

 

Rebellious Republican

(5,029 posts)
43. When you get a chance to slither around this way, I will be waiting!
Mon Jul 1, 2013, 11:31 PM
Jul 2013

Admin decided that this is a good thing, I will look forward to your heartfelt posts where ever they may show up.

RR

niyad

(113,342 posts)
24. this week also marks the 19th anniversary of the storm king mountain fire, where 14 firefighters
Mon Jul 1, 2013, 07:40 PM
Jul 2013

lost their lives:



Those who died:
Prineville Hotshots: Kathi Beck, Tamera Bickett, Scott Blecha, Levi Brinkley, Douglas Dunbar, Terri Hagen, Bonnie Holtby, Rob Johnson, Jon Kelso.
Missoula Smokejumper: Don Mackey
McCall Smokejumpers: Roger Roth, Jim Thrash.
Helitack: Robert Browning, Jr., Richard Tyler.

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
30. Public servants risk their lives to help their communities. Corporate employees don't.
Mon Jul 1, 2013, 08:05 PM
Jul 2013

I'll take the evil soshalists any day of the week.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,007 posts)
31. How much does a 1 percenter think it is worth paying firefighters?
Mon Jul 1, 2013, 08:07 PM
Jul 2013

Firefighter somewhere: minimum wage

Firefighter protecting one of their several homes: priceless.

shireen

(8,333 posts)
57. +1
Tue Jul 2, 2013, 02:36 PM
Jul 2013

the contrast between those two types of human beings makes me sick. One group genuinely cares about people, the other looks for every opportunity to squeeze every penny out of people.

Heartbroken.

Beacool

(30,250 posts)
33. What a sad procession.
Mon Jul 1, 2013, 08:18 PM
Jul 2013

Terrible end for these brave people. My condolences to their loved ones.

Rest in peace.

 

Rebellious Republican

(5,029 posts)
38. That is a wild land firefighter memorial.
Mon Jul 1, 2013, 08:32 PM
Jul 2013

The statue is not wearing bunker gear.
Thanks for recognizing the difference.

ChazInAz

(2,569 posts)
37. Words fail me.
Mon Jul 1, 2013, 08:32 PM
Jul 2013

I was just up in that area in May and saw how dry it was, and worried then that we'd have another devastating fire.
These men and women are true heroes.

burrowowl

(17,641 posts)
45. Very Sad!
Mon Jul 1, 2013, 11:38 PM
Jul 2013

They had just helped in a NM fire ... these people deserve health care and other benefits that they don't get ...
Call Congress!
Condolences to their families

bluedeathray

(511 posts)
49. No words can convey
Tue Jul 2, 2013, 06:27 AM
Jul 2013

The sense of thanks. The sense of sacrifice. The sense of love. RIP brave ones. Heartfelt condolences to those left behind.

 

blueamy66

(6,795 posts)
52. This is especially sad for me....
Tue Jul 2, 2013, 11:01 AM
Jul 2013

We had a cabin in Prescott and spent a lot time in Congress, Yarnell and Skull Valley as well.

My nieces still remember the summers up at the cabin.

They are both talking about going up to the funerals of a few of the heroes.

tearing up as I type.....

This week is rodeo week up in Prescott. It's just not going to be the same, NOT AT ALL. I wonder if they will cancel all of the events.....

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