with someone on Face book the other day. Had them agreeing that maybe we should join together and go after the corporations and not the poor. The person did like my comment. They are convinced it is the poor and have a hard time with facts like that, I hope this person did a little digging to see if I was right.

LongTomH

(8,636 posts)

9. Great stuff!

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Mon Jul 1, 2013, 05:47 PM

Jul 2013

I need more info like this to cope with the wingnuts on my Mom's side of the family. Surprisingly, Mom was actually a very tolerant, even liberal person; but, my cousins......OMFG!!!!

mountain grammy

(26,624 posts)

10. Nothing like the old liberal biased truth.

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Mon Jul 1, 2013, 06:10 PM

Jul 2013

Populist_Prole

(5,364 posts)

11. I wish it were that easy. I really really do

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Mon Jul 1, 2013, 06:16 PM

Jul 2013

My mad as hell at everything right wing father wouldn't be intellectually honest enough or humble enough to admit he had it wrong. For every time you get him to begrudgingly concede a point here and there, he will have to use false equivalence to find 10 more that he thinks supports his dogma.

That's fairly moot anyway since trying to articulate a cogent and rational response will be stymied by rude interruptions, yelling, and parsing and questioning the validity of every word you use so as to break your "argumental momentum".

The only way their will be no fighting, hating or screaming required is if one lets him spew his bullshit and says they agree with him.

Next time I think I'll just punch him in the face. At least he'll have a real reason to yell.

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)

12. Here's how you toss in "Socialism"....

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Mon Jul 1, 2013, 06:20 PM

Jul 2013

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These corporations actually factor in TWO kinds of Socialism into their books.

The Corporate Socialism they get in the form of "business incentives" to EXIST and the Public Socialism from underpaying employees so they remain in poverty and are eligible for things like Food Stamps and Medicaid.

On edit: If the idiots defend the Corporate Socialism you need to say, "I don't like the idea of MY TAX DOLLARS going to an already wealthy corporation to make it so small mom and pop stores can't compete. Let them sink or swim on their own!"

firenewt

(298 posts)

13. It's great your brother has a brain - you stand a good chance of enlightening an intelligent person.

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Mon Jul 1, 2013, 06:30 PM

Jul 2013

In the case of my family, all I could do was wait for all of them to die. They did - and the peace and quiet is wonderful. It took many,many years for the relationship to end up where it did.

reusrename

(1,716 posts)

14. My dad thinks that if WalMart workers are paid more then prices will just go up.

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Tue Jul 2, 2013, 01:43 AM

Jul 2013

And everyone will be worse off than they are now.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)

15. K & R. Got a chance of working if they're not Beckerheads. He inoculates his believers from truth.

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Tue Jul 2, 2013, 03:38 AM

Jul 2013

Has a comeback for every fact, point of logic or appeal to reason. Really, it's part of every single diatribe. Unless he's going full tilt spooky on the viewers to get them scared shitless. And they can't shut off his voice in their heads for more than a second or two. It pops back up like a 'earworm' song.

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