If acquitted, I think Zimmerman would kill more innocent people due to fear of vigilante justice

[fried eggs]

We're talking about a guy who armed himself just to go to the grocery store... Can you imagine how paranoid he'd be if freed?

[HappyMe]

1. I agree.

His cop wannabe paranoia will just be worse, and he'll figure if he can get away with one murder.....

[fried eggs]

3. Fair enough. He told his family he was going to Target, and instead hung around

the neighborhood and gunned down Trayvon. 2nd degree murder.

[Myrina]

8. Maybe he said "Target Practice" and the last part didn't come out so clear ...

[HappyMe]

5. Shopping can be absolutely

rife with dangers!!11

[John2]

19. Since you asked

that question, which store was Zimmerman going to? According to the diagram, he didn't see Trayvon until he was some distance away from the 711, Trayvon went to on his way going home. In order for him to come into contact with Trayvon, he would have to be traveling towards his own house, instead of traveling away from it, because he indicated he passed Trayvon. So Zimmerman wasn't going towards the 711. It had to be another store. Zimmerman would need to pass that 711 going pass Trayvon and towards the complex. I'm seeing holes in Zimmerman's testimony, the prosecution isn't exploring. THe point is was Zimmerman going or comming towards the complex when he first saw Trayvon??

[arcane1]

20. I always assumed he went out specifically to cruise around looking for "punks"

[John2]

23. Well, according to,

that diagram where Zimmerman forst placed his truch, he would have been traveling towards the conplex when he first saw Trayvon, not away from it. It would also conflict his claims seeing Trayvon looking in houses when he first saw him because it was near the entrance to the complex.

Zimmerman claimed he pass Trayvon when Trayvon was travelling away from the 711, on his way home. So in order for that to happen, Zimmerman would be comming from the store on his way home, not leaving his house. I think Zimmerman is lying about his story.

[EdwardSmith74]

4. Well, only if they have skittles and a bottle of iced tea - oh, and are black.

[hlthe2b]

6. Perhaps... but of more concern are all his like-minded minions--if no repercussions for his actions

results... I could see a cluster of similar killings occurring shortly thereafter by his "law-abiding" gun-obsessive, paranoid and racist fans.

[closeupready]

7. We don't punish people for being fearsome.

[WVU]

9. This is exactly why he can't be let free

With people gunning for him, along with his new "I can get away with anything" persona, he'll kill again.

[hack89]

15. Perhaps the non-gun loving, non-racist vigilantes will shoot him first.

[premium]

17. So even if the jury acquits him

we can't let him go free because of what he MIGHT do? Even if there's no indication of it?
Sorry, but our justice system doesn't work that way, we don't incarcerate people for what they MIGHT do in the future.
This is what you propose.

[alcibiades_mystery]

10. Ridiculous

[ileus]

11. If acquitted would vigilante justice need to be served?

[HappyMe]

14. Oh hell no.

Asshat Zimmy isn't worth 10 seconds of anyone's freedom.

[SolutionisSolidarity]

18. I would expect it, in his position.

He did kill a boy for no good reason. You can argue it was a series of errors in judgement on both sides that lead to the incident, and that might be enough to convince a jury. But whatever the outcome, by his own admission he was an armed adult who stalked an unarmed innocent teenager on the suspicion that he was up to no good mainly because he was black, then killed him when things got hairy. I would live in fear for the rest of my life if I had done that, because I would know that I deserved to die for such a terrible mistake.

[Nuclear Unicorn]

22. And yet, if none of those arguments hold up in court of law

then somehow stalking Zimmerman and killing him over racial issues is somehow understandable (which is just cowardly code-speak for "justified&quot ? People should stop agitating for violence.

[Duckwraps]

24. +1000!!! nt

[Duer 157099]

12. Absolutely agree with this. n/t

[sofa king]

13. I think it's possible.

I'm telling all of you right now, that stupid knock-knock joke was the tell that lays out their entire plan.

They don't care what happens in this trial so long as Martin is out of jail.

They'll keep him out of jail pending appeal, and during appeal, and eventually, after taking long enough for the public to largely forget about him, the appeal will be steered to a judge who owes this guy's father a favor.

That judge will reverse the conviction and dismiss the charges.

Once Zimmerman is free, however, he'll still be a prisoner of his own fears. Fear, and the racism inextricably entwined with it within him, is what brought him to this.

There seems little reason to doubt that he will not do it again if he is frightened--and he will be frightened every moment of the rest of his life.

[avebury]

16. He is someone that I totally would not

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want moving into my neighborhood.

[Neoma]

21. Everyone knows him and he's at risk for being attacked. I agree...

He'll probably be stupid enough to carry a gun again.

[otohara]

25. I Wonder Who Around Me is Packing A Gun

Never used to, but when I'm standing in line at the store or at the Post Office I look around and wonder.

It's scary out there, I'm paranoid.

[WinkyDink]

26. I disagree. But we won't find out.

[louis-t]

27. I'm curious. Anyone know how far the

Skittles and iced tea were found from the body?

[fleur-de-lisa]

31. I think the LE reports suggested that . . .

both were in his pockets when the scuffle started. I believe the skittles were still in his pocket when the police arrived after TM was murdered and the can of tea had fallen out and was lying next to his body.

Have you got a theory? I would be interested to hear it. So much about ZM's story doesn't add up and it doesn't sound like the prosecution is doing a very good job.

[louis-t]

33. "Have you got a theory?"

Not anymore. If he had been holding them in his hands, I would have said he would have dropped them before 'pursuing' Zim. If a person is angry and decides to chase someone down, it would be unusual for them to continue carrying something in their hands (other than a gun) that would slow them down. If they were found 50 feet away, it might mean he actually did chase Zim down.

[fleur-de-lisa]

32. See post #20 in the thread referenced below . . .

Provides a link to some very detailed Law Enforcement and Medical Examiner records:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023133005

[Tippy]

28. Agreed

[Skittles]

29. no, he is a coward

he knows now just how much of a coward he really is - if he walks he'll be cowering the rest of his life

[Skidmore]

30. What strikes me is that he has shown not one bit of remorse

for shooting that young man. That he felt he was entirely justified. Nothing to indicate that he has any regrets for anything he has done that led up to the shooting.