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The Straight Story

(48,121 posts)
Mon Jul 1, 2013, 01:29 AM Jul 2013

Teen wants apology after officer pulls gun

Columbus (OH):

Xzavier Brandon went from a 16-year-old honor student to a felony suspect in a matter of minutes during a walk to school last month.

“A gun was pointed at me and handcuffs were put on me, and that’s everything that’s done to a criminal,” Brandon said in an interview last week.

Exempt from final exams because of good test scores at New Albany High School, Brandon was walking his usual route to preseason football practice on May 28 when a resident of Hilltop Trail Drive thought he looked suspicious. A house in the Northeast Side neighborhood had been broken into between 8:30 a.m. and 12:40 p.m., when the homeowner returned and discovered the crime.

About the same time, Mike Eberts, who lives in the neighborhood, saw Brandon walking by and called 911.

“There’s someone walking down the street who might have something to do with this,” he told the Columbus police dispatcher. “It may just be a coincidence that he’s just walking by, but it sure looks suspicious to me.” He told the dispatcher he would follow the youth in his car.

http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2013/06/30/teen-wants-apology-after-officer-pulls-gun.html



http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2013/06/30/teen-wants-apology-after-officer-pulls-gun.html

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Teen wants apology after officer pulls gun (Original Post) The Straight Story Jul 2013 OP
Is an apology too much to ask for handcuffing & pulling a gun on an innocent victim? think Jul 2013 #1
Walking while black. I hope that paranoid 911 caller feels like shit. Gravitycollapse Jul 2013 #2
Sadly, I would Bet He Does Not. lib87 Jul 2013 #9
Incredible. JDPriestly Jul 2013 #18
Brandon is lucky he didn't run into another malaise Jul 2013 #26
Gun happy cops nothing new! Jedi Dale Jul 2013 #3
Welcome to DU, Jedi Dale! Suich Jul 2013 #7
And the defenders of gun happy guns and stupid police action I call "badge sniffers." Nanjing to Seoul Jul 2013 #12
Welcome to DU! reusrename Jul 2013 #34
"but it sure looks suspicious to me" defacto7 Jul 2013 #4
he looks "suspicious" arely staircase Jul 2013 #5
"He looked suspicious" Scootaloo Jul 2013 #6
Too many fucking cops. DeSwiss Jul 2013 #8
Not as many as there used to be. They used to be at intersections directing traffic. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2013 #14
K & R Oldtimeralso Jul 2013 #10
So now being suspected of misusing a freaking tblue37 Jul 2013 #15
His crimes are as follows: Nanjing to Seoul Jul 2013 #11
And if he had been driving through 47of74 Jul 2013 #16
wearing sandals with socks JI7 Jul 2013 #19
no. but i'm sure it was skin color. Nanjing to Seoul Jul 2013 #20
no question it was because he is black JI7 Jul 2013 #21
what bigotry? some of my best friends are black. Nanjing to Seoul Jul 2013 #22
snarf trumad Jul 2013 #23
Substitute "Indian" for "black" in the article and imagine the outrage. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2013 #13
K&R Sherman A1 Jul 2013 #17
It should be a public apology Shankapotomus Jul 2013 #24
Pretty extreme Yo_Mama Jul 2013 #25
Walking while black. TransitJohn Jul 2013 #27
Because in two months most will have forgotten CanonRay Jul 2013 #31
Indeed. I remember once incident I was involved in and I met with IA next morning The Straight Story Jul 2013 #32
There isn't enough evidence to say if it's because the kid is black mythology Jul 2013 #28
Did they draw a gun on you? knitter4democracy Jul 2013 #30
University of virginia female stopped for buying water yeoman6987 Jul 2013 #29
As a white guy, I've never had a cop pull a gun on me while I was walking down the street penultimate Jul 2013 #33

lib87

(535 posts)
9. Sadly, I would Bet He Does Not.
Mon Jul 1, 2013, 03:27 AM
Jul 2013

The neighbor probably thinks he was doing the right thing by calling 911 on a kid who was walking while Black in his Ohio neighborhood.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
18. Incredible.
Mon Jul 1, 2013, 04:17 AM
Jul 2013

In some ways, we have made so much progress with regard to ending discrimination based on race, and then things like this happen and you have to wonder why some just don't get it.

Jedi Dale

(1 post)
3. Gun happy cops nothing new!
Mon Jul 1, 2013, 01:57 AM
Jul 2013

I believe it's an abuse of power! Consider yourself lucky. Had you been in Reno, you probably would have been shot. If not dead, then after being stablized going to jail
I believe ALL law enforcement needs civilian oversight. Without it, "absolute power corrupts absolutely!"

 

Nanjing to Seoul

(2,088 posts)
12. And the defenders of gun happy guns and stupid police action I call "badge sniffers."
Mon Jul 1, 2013, 03:39 AM
Jul 2013

If George Carlin can call today's professional parents "diaper sniffers," I felt I could change it a little.

Welcome to DU.

 

reusrename

(1,716 posts)
34. Welcome to DU!
Tue Jul 2, 2013, 03:19 AM
Jul 2013

He is a big kid, no doubt about it, but if a cop in uniform needs to pull a gun on him then he ought to get into some other line of work.

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
4. "but it sure looks suspicious to me"
Mon Jul 1, 2013, 02:00 AM
Jul 2013

Why? Why did he "look" suspicious? What does suspicious mean to this guy?

Hey cops! 20 real heroes died today because they were incredibly brave and honorable. Put your god damned guns away and get some smarts. Be brave for a change rather than hiding behind weapons and stupidity. Then, maybe then, you will begin to gain some respect again.

Oldtimeralso

(1,937 posts)
10. K & R
Mon Jul 1, 2013, 03:32 AM
Jul 2013

I had a gun pulled by the police when they ran the number on my handicapped parking permit and transposed the number. One officer told me to give him the permit, my drivers license and the registration for the car. I told him that the registration was in the glove box so not to startle him. I retrieved the info and turned to see his partner with his gun drawn crouching behind the opposite side of the squad car.

They ran the number again and found out that I was not violating the law and the permit was valid, not a fake as I was initial accused of when they pulled up behind my car. They did not offer an apology and when I asked why not, they answered that they were only doing their job.

I reported the incident to their captain. Never did hear of any action taken nor an apology!

tblue37

(65,403 posts)
15. So now being suspected of misusing a freaking
Mon Jul 1, 2013, 04:14 AM
Jul 2013

HANDICAPPED permit is justification for cops to escalate to drawing guns on a citizen?

Suppose you really didn't have aright to use the handicap permit. Would even that justiify going to guns?

Cops are freaking crazy these days!

 

Nanjing to Seoul

(2,088 posts)
11. His crimes are as follows:
Mon Jul 1, 2013, 03:36 AM
Jul 2013

1: Being black in a white neighborhood
2: Being black period
3: Walking while black
4: Living while black
5: Being tall, built big and black
6: Being young while black
7: Being black and black

Badge sniffers, ready for your defense of the police officer's actions.

HOAs and busybody neighbors suck.

JI7

(89,252 posts)
19. wearing sandals with socks
Mon Jul 1, 2013, 04:27 AM
Jul 2013

but seriously, i would like to know how the home owner feels or thinks. does he acknowledge why he thought he looked "suspicious" ?

JI7

(89,252 posts)
21. no question it was because he is black
Mon Jul 1, 2013, 04:32 AM
Jul 2013

but i wonder if the owner will recognize it. maybe he does but he will excuse his bigotry.

Shankapotomus

(4,840 posts)
24. It should be a public apology
Mon Jul 1, 2013, 07:27 AM
Jul 2013

with local press there so it is made perfectly clear to everyone the kid is not some criminal and the officer was wrong to do what he did.

Yo_Mama

(8,303 posts)
25. Pretty extreme
Mon Jul 1, 2013, 07:36 AM
Jul 2013

In the old days, the cops just used to stop you and ask questions. That was when I was a teen, which is lo these nearly four decades ago.

But this is new-style law enforcement, in which we are all treated as extremely dangerous.

Teens who are not in school when school is in session used to be questioned by the cops, esp. if they were in neighborhoods in which crimes were being reported. But handcuffed at the point of a gun?

This type of police behavior is making our country more dangerous. This is why I won't call the cops on anyone I think may be suspicious - I'm afraid the cops will be committing crimes against innocent persons! When you can't trust the cops to ask questions, you are in a bad way, but that's the point we have reached.

TransitJohn

(6,932 posts)
27. Walking while black.
Mon Jul 1, 2013, 07:41 AM
Jul 2013

Dangerous behavior.


Oh, and why the fuck would it take months to complete an internal affairs investigation when there's no paperwork, and only two people (officer and this young man) to interview? Smells like bullshit.

CanonRay

(14,104 posts)
31. Because in two months most will have forgotten
Mon Jul 1, 2013, 10:01 AM
Jul 2013

and they will bury this in some bogus report filed on Friday night.

The Straight Story

(48,121 posts)
32. Indeed. I remember once incident I was involved in and I met with IA next morning
Mon Jul 1, 2013, 10:06 AM
Jul 2013

Case was closed by end of day (involved me, another deputy, and an inmate).

Something seems a tad off here.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
28. There isn't enough evidence to say if it's because the kid is black
Mon Jul 1, 2013, 08:33 AM
Jul 2013

I'm white and I was waiting outside to be shown an apartment. The guy who was showing it to me was late and I tend to pace when I'm waiting. After viewing the apartment, I was leaving and two plainclothes cops pull me aside because somebody called the cops on me for lurking and being a possible drug dealer. Some people are just irrationally afraid of strangers.

Is it possible that the person who called the cops did so because he or she is racist? Absolutely. But it's also possible that they would have called the police on somebody who was white or Hispanic. There isn't enough information to say either way.

The cops absolutely owe the kid an apology though.

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
29. University of virginia female stopped for buying water
Mon Jul 1, 2013, 08:59 AM
Jul 2013

Did you guys hear about the ABC police who stopped a woman at the University of Virginia just buying water. They arrested her....She spent a night in jail on FELONY charges. Of course, the charges have been dropped, but I hope she becomes a millionaire. The entire law enforcement needs a reboot.

penultimate

(1,110 posts)
33. As a white guy, I've never had a cop pull a gun on me while I was walking down the street
Mon Jul 1, 2013, 10:53 AM
Jul 2013

This is even when I was a punk looking teenager. Sure I was stopped a few times here and there, but never did I have a gun pulled on me, nor was I ever handcuffed. The closest thing I've ever had was when I was 16 and skipping school, someone called the police because I was hanging out in front of some complex waiting for my mom to leave to work... The cop came up and asked me why I wasn't in class. He then drove me home and told my mom to make sure I get to school. That's really how this should have played out (except in this case he actually had a legitimate reason to not be in class)

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