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John Brown | |
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Ghandi | |
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Martin Luther King | |
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Paul Revere | |
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WTF? | |
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(8,155 posts)whatchamacallit
(15,558 posts)ProSense.
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(8,155 posts)ProSense
(116,464 posts)whatchamacallit
(15,558 posts)Others have an unhealthy fixation, right Pro?
ProSense
(116,464 posts)"Nope, I'm indifferent to him"
...just upset at the people who don't characterize him as a hero, right?
"Others have an unhealthy fixation, right Pro?"
Is that why you seek out every thread I post, whatchamacallit? (<<<LOL)
whatchamacallit
(15,558 posts)but false characterization is your forte.
ProSense
(116,464 posts)"You know I've never called him that but false characterization is your forte."
...your "forte": http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=3137715
I mean, you seem offended by the fact that anyone dare to criticize Snowden, but you're apparently afraid to own up to that.
whatchamacallit
(15,558 posts)I don't have a fully formed opinion of Snowden's character. Your protozoan brain has you conflating not wanting to make it about him with hero worship.
ProSense
(116,464 posts)"I don't have a fully formed opinion of Snowden's character. Your protozoan brain has you conflating not wanting to make it about him with hero worship. "
...realize the insults are only masking the obvious displeasure you have with criticism of Snowden?
whatchamacallit
(15,558 posts)This may be too nuanced for you, so carry on swinging that wrecking ball.
ProSense
(116,464 posts)"I have displeasure with obfuscation
This may be too nuanced for you, so carry on swinging that wrecking ball."
...I have no use for hypocrisy: http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=3137715
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)ProSense
(116,464 posts)SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
treestar
(82,383 posts)We are still waiting for the Jesus Christ comparison.
Whisp
(24,096 posts)flamingdem
(39,313 posts)Purveyor
(29,876 posts)JI7
(89,251 posts)MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)Did you mean to ask who he's most similar to?
ProSense
(116,464 posts)"He can be *compared* to any of 'em
Did you mean to ask who he's most similar to?"
...you're saying "All of the above"? No, I asked what I meant to ask.
MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)But he should be compared to Chang and Eng, IMHO.
ProSense
(116,464 posts)"He's most like Daniel Ellsberg, of course."
...not John Brown? http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023124595
Nope, not Ellsberg.
MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)...not John Brown? http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023124595
Nope, not John Brown.
Yep, Ellsberg.
Zorra
(27,670 posts)ProSense
(116,464 posts)Zorra
(27,670 posts)ProSense
(116,464 posts)In fact, your comment is pure obfuscation.
sibelian
(7,804 posts)SidDithers
(44,228 posts)or Don Quixote.
Sid
Arctic Dave
(13,812 posts)They do look a lot alike.
Let's face it, you never see them together.
Crabby Appleton
(5,231 posts)bravenak
(34,648 posts)I don't know why but he reminds me of her. The hero worship, the press going gaga, the inevitable questions about competence and now the fall.
I wonder if he needs an exorcism and when will his Fox News gig start. I bet he will be joining the freedum party wih her.
cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)Peter Buxtun
Daniel Ellsberg
Ryszard Jerzy Kukliński
W. Mark Felt
Karen Silkwood
Stanley Adams
A. Ernest Fitzgerald
Gregory C. Minor, Richard B. Hubbard, and Dale G. Bridenbaugh
John Michael Gravitt
Duncan Edmonds
Mordechai Vanunu
Roland Gibeault
Douglas D. Keeth
William Schumer
Myron Mehlman
Mark Whitacre
Frederic Whitehurst
Jeffrey Wigand
Allan Cutler
Gary Webb
Alasdair Roberts
Norman Matloff
Shiv Chopra
Paul van Buitenen
Rita Pal
Marc Hodler
Harry Markopolos
Marsha Coleman-Adebayo
Pascal Diethelm, Jean-Charles Rielle
Jesselyn Radack
Kathryn Bolkovac
Cynthia Cooper
Sherron Watkins
Coleen Rowley
Marta Andreasen
Glenn Walp
Steven L. Doran
Diane Urquhart
Katharine Gun
Robert MacLean
Babak Pasdar
Vijay Bahadur Singh
Joseph Wilson
Richard Convertino
Joe Darby
Hans-Peter Martin
Brad Birkenfeld
Shawn Carpenter
Gary J. Aguirre
Justin Hopson
Robert J. McCarthy
Wendell Potter
Michael Paul
Ingvar Bratt
Gerald W. Brown
Walter DeNino
Satyendra Dubey
Sibel Edmonds
Marlene Garcia Esperat
David Franklin...
and many others. Oh wait... you were just being sarcastic in a misguided and unneeded attempt to defend President Obama.
Never mind.
ProSense
(116,464 posts)"Oh wait... you were just being sarcastic in a misguided and unneeded attempt to defend President Obama. "
...I was listing people who Snowden has been compared to. You obviously disagree with the list in the OP, but that doesn't mean the comparisons haven't been made.
cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)in a misguided and unneeded attempt to defend President Obama.
ProSense
(116,464 posts)"So you listed people Snowden has been compared to..."
...correct.
usGovOwesUs3Trillion
(2,022 posts)Edward Snowden is a modern day Paul Revere with a thumb drive full of the news that Tyranny is coming!
Recursion
(56,582 posts)So, here's hoping...
Douglas Carpenter
(20,226 posts)and says that Snowden's revelations are even far more important than his revelations of the Pentagon Papers might be more comparable. But then again Ellsberg revealed something that had happened in the past - Mr. Snowden like the traditional story of Paul Revere has set off the alarms that unless things are stopped tyranny is on its way. I cannot imagine any scenario where any state anywhere could set up such a massive network of surveillance without it turning in time into an authoritarian instrument of control. It boggles my mind that people cannot see something so patently obvious.
AtomicKitten
(46,585 posts)LaydeeBug
(10,291 posts)baldguy
(36,649 posts)Then he tried to start his own business by highjacking our customers.
It was a pain in the ass for about a year and a half. There were a few clients that jumped ship, but they were the small fry. All of our best & most lucrative customers remained loyal.
The owners of our company sued the guy & won big. He lost his business, all his money, most of his friends. Even his wife divorced him. You know there's that cliche: "You'll never work in this town again!"? Well, he never did.
That's who Snowden reminds me of.
krawhitham
(4,644 posts)Number23
(24,544 posts)Major Hogwash
(17,656 posts)He's oblivious to how much trouble he has caused the entire world.
"What, me worry?"
blue neen
(12,321 posts)You know, the Pooka.
Glenn Greenwald would be Elwood P. Dowd.
Narkos
(1,185 posts)NoOneMan
(4,795 posts)Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)Lil Missy
(17,865 posts)He should also be compared with someone looking at life in prison.
rsmith6621
(6,942 posts)galileoreloaded
(2,571 posts)herpy derpy NonSense
vdogg
(1,384 posts)So I went with none of the above.
jmowreader
(50,559 posts)That's if he's telling the truth about his motivation. At this point, tho, he's proving to be as full of shit as a Christmas Goose, so the American Flag and Apple Pie routine is probably as fallacious as his claim he could tap any phone in the world. Liars tend to lie about everything.
If this is a blackmail case, compare him to Clayton Lonetree, the Marine security guard who let Soviet agents into the Moscow Embassy cipher room to conceal the fact he was fucking KGB officers.
If it was money, let's compare him to James Hall, the Army warrant officer who sold the complete National SIGINT Requirements List (a document that's five feet thick) to the Soviets, and God only knows how he got it.