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ProSense

(116,464 posts)
Sun Jun 30, 2013, 10:20 PM Jun 2013

Who should Edward Snowden be compared to?



















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Who should Edward Snowden be compared to? (Original Post) ProSense Jun 2013 OP
Put me down as not giving a shit. Gravitycollapse Jun 2013 #1
Well if it's true that he's an opportunist, I'd say whatchamacallit Jun 2013 #2
Lulz. Gravitycollapse Jun 2013 #3
He's your hero. ProSense Jun 2013 #4
Nope, I'm indifferent to him whatchamacallit Jun 2013 #8
Yeah, you're ProSense Jun 2013 #12
You know I've never called him that whatchamacallit Jun 2013 #16
What's ProSense Jun 2013 #20
Nope, wrong as usual whatchamacallit Jun 2013 #28
Do you ProSense Jun 2013 #29
I have displeasure with obfuscation whatchamacallit Jun 2013 #30
And ProSense Jun 2013 #33
IT'S NOT ABOUT PROSENSE! JaneyVee Jun 2013 #6
LOL! n/t ProSense Jun 2013 #9
Hehe... SidDithers Jun 2013 #34
someone posted on another thread treestar Jun 2013 #5
I'm waiting for Gollum. n/t Whisp Jun 2013 #26
This comes to mind flamingdem Jun 2013 #7
You would get the response you wanted had you listed "Jonathan Pollard". Just saying... eom Purveyor Jun 2013 #10
Jonathan Pollard and James O'Keefe JI7 Jun 2013 #11
He can be *compared* to any of 'em MannyGoldstein Jun 2013 #13
So ProSense Jun 2013 #17
He's most like Daniel Ellsberg, of course. MannyGoldstein Jun 2013 #21
Wait, ProSense Jun 2013 #24
Wait... MannyGoldstein Jun 2013 #27
Trying to hide the real issue yet again? Hey, check out this video from Alan Grayson! Zorra Jun 2013 #14
Thanks for the clip. It's irrelevant to the OP. LOL! n/t ProSense Jun 2013 #18
It's totally relevant. It is the information you are trying hide behind your silly strawman. nt Zorra Jun 2013 #23
No, that's your opinion, and I completely disagree. ProSense Jun 2013 #25
I don't think comparing him to anybody means anything, particularly... sibelian Jun 2013 #15
I'm thinking more along the lines of Captain Ahab... SidDithers Jun 2013 #19
Obama? Arctic Dave Jun 2013 #22
Pee Wee Herman Crabby Appleton Jun 2013 #31
Sarah Palin. bravenak Jun 2013 #32
These people... cherokeeprogressive Jun 2013 #35
No, ProSense Jun 2013 #37
So you listed people Snowden has been compared to... cherokeeprogressive Jun 2013 #38
That's ProSense Jun 2013 #39
Edward Snowden is a modern day Paul Revere with a thumb drive full of the news that Tyranny is comin usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jun 2013 #36
Paul Revere was arrested in Lincoln, MA, and spent the night in British custody Recursion Jul 2013 #54
I love that picture and photo and the sentiment - although Daniel Ellsberg who strongly supports him Douglas Carpenter Jul 2013 #55
Boo Radley. AtomicKitten Jun 2013 #40
Edward Snowden. nt LaydeeBug Jun 2013 #41
I once worked with a guy who stole our company's customer contact database. baldguy Jun 2013 #42
+1 krawhitham Jun 2013 #44
James O'Keefe krawhitham Jun 2013 #43
Ouch! Number23 Jun 2013 #46
Alfred E. Neuman -- the idiot kid Major Hogwash Jun 2013 #45
Harvey. blue neen Jul 2013 #47
Aldrich Ames Narkos Jul 2013 #48
The guy standing in front of the 800 LB Gorilla in the room NoOneMan Jul 2013 #49
Daniel Ellsberg, who supports him and his efforts. Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2013 #50
Indeed! A video that EVERYONE should watch: MannyGoldstein Jul 2013 #51
Robert Hanssen. Also ..... Lil Missy Jul 2013 #52
Disneys Goofy Character. rsmith6621 Jul 2013 #53
you forgot abe lincoln galileoreloaded Jul 2013 #56
Didn't see Benedict Arnold vdogg Jul 2013 #57
Garry Trudeau's Red Rascal jmowreader Jul 2013 #58
Either the Rosenburgs or that Shakur lady who had to flee to Cuba to avoid the police. craigmatic Jul 2013 #59
Jesus, take a day off. /nt Marr Jul 2013 #60
+1 n/t Earth_First Jul 2013 #61

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
12. Yeah, you're
Sun Jun 30, 2013, 10:27 PM
Jun 2013

"Nope, I'm indifferent to him"

...just upset at the people who don't characterize him as a hero, right?

"Others have an unhealthy fixation, right Pro?"

Is that why you seek out every thread I post, whatchamacallit? (<<<LOL)




ProSense

(116,464 posts)
20. What's
Sun Jun 30, 2013, 10:36 PM
Jun 2013

"You know I've never called him that but false characterization is your forte."

...your "forte": http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=3137715

I mean, you seem offended by the fact that anyone dare to criticize Snowden, but you're apparently afraid to own up to that.

whatchamacallit

(15,558 posts)
28. Nope, wrong as usual
Sun Jun 30, 2013, 10:46 PM
Jun 2013

I don't have a fully formed opinion of Snowden's character. Your protozoan brain has you conflating not wanting to make it about him with hero worship.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
29. Do you
Sun Jun 30, 2013, 10:48 PM
Jun 2013

"I don't have a fully formed opinion of Snowden's character. Your protozoan brain has you conflating not wanting to make it about him with hero worship. "

...realize the insults are only masking the obvious displeasure you have with criticism of Snowden?

whatchamacallit

(15,558 posts)
30. I have displeasure with obfuscation
Sun Jun 30, 2013, 10:52 PM
Jun 2013

This may be too nuanced for you, so carry on swinging that wrecking ball.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
17. So
Sun Jun 30, 2013, 10:32 PM
Jun 2013

"He can be *compared* to any of 'em

Did you mean to ask who he's most similar to?"

...you're saying "All of the above"? No, I asked what I meant to ask.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
32. Sarah Palin.
Sun Jun 30, 2013, 10:53 PM
Jun 2013

I don't know why but he reminds me of her. The hero worship, the press going gaga, the inevitable questions about competence and now the fall.
I wonder if he needs an exorcism and when will his Fox News gig start. I bet he will be joining the freedum party wih her.

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
35. These people...
Sun Jun 30, 2013, 10:56 PM
Jun 2013

Peter Buxtun
Daniel Ellsberg
Ryszard Jerzy Kukliński
W. Mark Felt
Karen Silkwood
Stanley Adams
A. Ernest Fitzgerald
Gregory C. Minor, Richard B. Hubbard, and Dale G. Bridenbaugh
John Michael Gravitt
Duncan Edmonds
Mordechai Vanunu
Roland Gibeault
Douglas D. Keeth
William Schumer
Myron Mehlman
Mark Whitacre
Frederic Whitehurst
Jeffrey Wigand
Allan Cutler
Gary Webb
Alasdair Roberts
Norman Matloff
Shiv Chopra
Paul van Buitenen
Rita Pal
Marc Hodler
Harry Markopolos
Marsha Coleman-Adebayo
Pascal Diethelm, Jean-Charles Rielle
Jesselyn Radack
Kathryn Bolkovac
Cynthia Cooper
Sherron Watkins
Coleen Rowley
Marta Andreasen
Glenn Walp
Steven L. Doran
Diane Urquhart
Katharine Gun
Robert MacLean
Babak Pasdar
Vijay Bahadur Singh
Joseph Wilson
Richard Convertino
Joe Darby
Hans-Peter Martin
Brad Birkenfeld
Shawn Carpenter
Gary J. Aguirre
Justin Hopson
Robert J. McCarthy
Wendell Potter
Michael Paul
Ingvar Bratt
Gerald W. Brown
Walter DeNino
Satyendra Dubey
Sibel Edmonds
Marlene Garcia Esperat
David Franklin...

and many others. Oh wait... you were just being sarcastic in a misguided and unneeded attempt to defend President Obama.

Never mind.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
37. No,
Sun Jun 30, 2013, 11:01 PM
Jun 2013

"Oh wait... you were just being sarcastic in a misguided and unneeded attempt to defend President Obama. "

...I was listing people who Snowden has been compared to. You obviously disagree with the list in the OP, but that doesn't mean the comparisons haven't been made.

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
38. So you listed people Snowden has been compared to...
Sun Jun 30, 2013, 11:02 PM
Jun 2013

in a misguided and unneeded attempt to defend President Obama.

 

usGovOwesUs3Trillion

(2,022 posts)
36. Edward Snowden is a modern day Paul Revere with a thumb drive full of the news that Tyranny is comin
Sun Jun 30, 2013, 11:00 PM
Jun 2013

Edward Snowden is a modern day Paul Revere with a thumb drive full of the news that Tyranny is coming!

Douglas Carpenter

(20,226 posts)
55. I love that picture and photo and the sentiment - although Daniel Ellsberg who strongly supports him
Mon Jul 1, 2013, 01:49 AM
Jul 2013

and says that Snowden's revelations are even far more important than his revelations of the Pentagon Papers might be more comparable. But then again Ellsberg revealed something that had happened in the past - Mr. Snowden like the traditional story of Paul Revere has set off the alarms that unless things are stopped tyranny is on its way. I cannot imagine any scenario where any state anywhere could set up such a massive network of surveillance without it turning in time into an authoritarian instrument of control. It boggles my mind that people cannot see something so patently obvious.

 

baldguy

(36,649 posts)
42. I once worked with a guy who stole our company's customer contact database.
Sun Jun 30, 2013, 11:17 PM
Jun 2013

Then he tried to start his own business by highjacking our customers.

It was a pain in the ass for about a year and a half. There were a few clients that jumped ship, but they were the small fry. All of our best & most lucrative customers remained loyal.

The owners of our company sued the guy & won big. He lost his business, all his money, most of his friends. Even his wife divorced him. You know there's that cliche: "You'll never work in this town again!"? Well, he never did.

That's who Snowden reminds me of.

Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
45. Alfred E. Neuman -- the idiot kid
Sun Jun 30, 2013, 11:46 PM
Jun 2013

He's oblivious to how much trouble he has caused the entire world.

"What, me worry?"

jmowreader

(50,559 posts)
58. Garry Trudeau's Red Rascal
Mon Jul 1, 2013, 05:31 AM
Jul 2013

That's if he's telling the truth about his motivation. At this point, tho, he's proving to be as full of shit as a Christmas Goose, so the American Flag and Apple Pie routine is probably as fallacious as his claim he could tap any phone in the world. Liars tend to lie about everything.

If this is a blackmail case, compare him to Clayton Lonetree, the Marine security guard who let Soviet agents into the Moscow Embassy cipher room to conceal the fact he was fucking KGB officers.

If it was money, let's compare him to James Hall, the Army warrant officer who sold the complete National SIGINT Requirements List (a document that's five feet thick) to the Soviets, and God only knows how he got it.

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