Seriously, can ANYONE here post one redeeming value of any of the GOP candidates

[LynneSin]

I can't even think of one!

[Lizzie Poppet]

1. Comic relief?

Of course, if one of those cretins actually manages to win, the joke's on us.

[edhopper]

2. Romney

believes in everyone being insured. Insurance paid birth control. Civil Unions (if not gay marriage).
At least he did as Governor of MA.

[HopeHoops]

3. Wait. Give me a minute. I'll think of one.

GOT IT - None of them has a chance of winning in November! That's a good thing!

[madrchsod]

4. no.....

[w8liftinglady]

5. seriously, I googled

santorum
http://spreadingsantorum.com/

romney
http://spreadingromney.com/

gingrich
http://www.realchange.org/gingrich.htm

paul
http://motherjones.com/politics/2012/01/ron-paul-newsletter-iowa-caucus-republican


There are so many positives to choose from
(sarcasm)

[tfrey1225]

6. Well...

I do like Ron Paul on civil liberties, the war on drugs, and his foreign policy is close to mine. I'll admit it, through much of the summer and fall I greatly considered voting for Ron Paul because of those issues. I'm also moderately fiscally conservative. But Ron Paul takes it too far economically. I want a basic safety net, universal health care, social security, and strong unions. Ron Paul spells the end to all of that.

[Scuba]

15. Ron Paul makes sense if you listen to him for two minutes...

... unfortunately, if you listen longer, he's a whack-job ready to destroy America.

[wood snake sadge]

23. Maybe for one mudderfudding second

you could avoid the insulting language? Is that even possible?

Oh yeah, it should be a gas the next four years... We already have NDAA, they floated the trial balloon of Internets censorship, drones flying above...

But dreamboat is dreamy. Film at 11....

[RockaFowler]

34. What's insulting about Whack-Job??

It's what Ron Paul is . . . Are you one of those Paulbots???

[Jazzgirl]

47. Ron Paul is a whack job.

There. I said it.

[woo me with science]

29. Yep, it's good that he is still in the debate.

Report: US may be forced to "militarize" Syria crisis.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002288483

Congress Passes Bill to Proliferate Drone Use in US Airspace (FAA says up to 30,000 by 2020)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002287989

So Iran is our new “Enemy.” Are we going to fall for this crap again?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002288384

Top US counterterrorism official: drone critics are Al Qaeda enablers
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002279862

War with Iran! Are you kidding me? says Dennis Kucinichhttp://www.democraticunderground.com/11066


The "What If" Speech

“Madame Speaker, I have a few questions for my colleagues. What if our foreign policy of the past century is deeply flawed and has not served our national security interests? What if we wake up one day and realize that the terrorist threat is a predictable consequence of our meddling in the affairs of others and has nothing to do with us being free and prosperous?

What if propping up oppressive regimes in the Middle East endangers both the United States and Israel? What if occupying countries like Iraq and Afghanistan and bombing Pakistan is directly related to the hatred directed toward us? What if some day it dawns on us that losing over 5,000 American military personnel in the Middle East since 9/11 is not a fair trade off for the loss of nearly 3,000 American citizens no matter how many Iraqi, Pakistani, or Afghan people are killed or displaced?

What if we finally decide that torture even if called “enhanced interrogation technique” is self destructive and produces no useful information and that contracting it out to a third world nation is just as evil?

What if it is finally realized that war and military spending is always destructive to the economy? What if all war time spending is paid for through the deceitful and evil process of inflating and borrowing? What if we finally see that war time conditions always undermine personal liberty?

What if conservatives who preach small government wake up and realize that our interventionist foreign policy provides the greatest incentive to expand the government? What if conservatives understood once again that their only logical position is to reject military intervention and managing an empire throughout the world?

What if the American people woke up and understood that the official reasons for going to war are almost always based on lies and promoted by war propaganda in order to serve special interests? What if we as a nation came to realize that the quest for empire eventually destroys all great nations? What if Obama has no intention of leaving Iraq? What if a military draft is being planned for, for the wars that will spread if our foreign policy is not changed?

What if the American people learn the truth that our foreign policy has nothing to do with national security and that it never changes from one administration to the next? What if war and preparation for war is a racket serving the special interests? What if president Obama is completely wrong about Afghanistan and it turns out worse than Iraq and Vietnam - put together? What if Christianity actually teaches peace and not preventive wars of aggression? What if diplomacy is found to be superior to bombs and bribes in protecting America?

What happens if my concerns are completely unfounded? Nothing. But what happens if my concerns are justified and ignored? Nothing good.”

And I yield back the balance of my time.”


This was spoken by Ron Paul in front of the House of Representatives in February 2009. Dennis Kucinich would endorse this, and probably a few other Democrats, as well....but not the Democrats in the spotlight...the Democrats we need to be saying things like this.

This is why I am glad Ron Paul is still in the race. And, no, this is not an endorsement for voting for him. But why is it that the only politician in the national spotlight we hear speaking these truths, actually using the word "warmongering" during a debate and talking about corporate benefit from these atrocities, is an extreme libertarian who would also rip away our safety nets and abolish critical government functions and safeguards?

We desperately need a national conversation about these things. We should have had a DEMOCRATIC candidate saying these things.

The only way things will change is to get the money out of politics. We must take back our party from the corporate interests who have purchased it and our media, and who are guiding the national conversation.

Support OWS

[JustAnotherGen]

7. Ron Paul is 76

He'll be 77 in August. . . this means (don't mean to be awful) that is years on this earth are near the end.

But - that's offset by that spawn of his from Tennessee.

[newspeak]

37. oh yeah, ron paul looks great

until you see his brand of libertarianism is against womens' choices. Or that he believes in the corporate free market tooth fairy. He wants to do away with any federal regulating department that's supposed to protect the people. And, all of those global corporations, if they cause the deaths of thousands of people, contaminate your water supply or destroy your livelihood, like BP; well that corporation will just die--NOT!!!!

Oh, and it's up to corporations, you know, the goodness of their little hearts, to give you a decent wage and safe working conditions.

To me, even though he's for drug legalization and curbing the wars, he's one scary fellow.

[JustAnotherGen]

42. I can't tell tone

Did you just read the subject line?

Offline my friends and I laugh about "Just die quickly please" in regards to Ron Paul.


Did you read what I wrote or just the subject line? Or your approving of my death wish of him and his ilk.

You forgot why really think he's too wet to step on and too low to kick. Can I say it outside of the African American forum? He's a racist. He is a high rolling sunofabitch racist and I hope he chokes on his food.

That's why I wouldn't piss on him if I was on fire.

[Glorfindel]

8. A very feeble one: Ron Paul's position on marijuana legalization

From Wikipedia: "During June 2011, Paul co-sponsored a bill with U.S. Representative Barney Frank that is intended to end the federal prohibition of marijuana."

[think]

25. Repealing the patriot act & cutting military spending

as well as ending the war on drugs are Democratic positions I believe in strongly.

We waste too much money on military weaponry and non ending wars, prisons, the DHS, the CIA, the NSA, the DEA, the ATF, and a bunch of other 3 letter acronyms.

The Department of Homeland Security which didn't exist before 9/11 is asking for $57 billion for this year alone!

Without reform in these areas there will never be money for the rest of things we want to accomplish that HELP people instead of killing or incarcerating them!

[HughBeaumont]

9. I can't get past their economic Darwinism. That stops everything with me.

I don't take anyone who peddles and/or pseudo-intellectually (or otherwise) tries to justify failure seriously. All the Republican candidates are not only hyper-Friedmanites, but anti-choice, sexist, classist, borderline to outright racist and play to the fundamentalpatients. It's a clown car that makes America look like more of a laughingstock than it already is.

[LonePirate]

10. I think Santorum and Romney are both faithful husbands but that's all I can say positively.

[LynneSin]

12. That's about it

Except they want to take what they perceive are their stellar 'family values' and force it on the rest of us, especially Santorum.



I'm happy that Rick wants to have this perfect family and 6 kids and live the happy straight hetero lifestyle - but that's his choice and it should not be forced upon everyone else.

[bowens43]

11. Mitt Romney has good hair.

[madamesilverspurs]

13. They're not twins.

Other than that . . . nope.

[agentS]

14. I've tried- I can't find anything

I can probably realistically say that none of the GOP candidates are against people owning kittens.

BUT I WON'T... wait 2 weeks, and watch as one of them comes out against kittens BECAUSE the president says something nice about kittens.
I swear... just wait and they'll be attacking kittens.

3 weeks ago, I never would have thought they would be attacking condoms, but LO AND BEHOLD, HERE WE ARE!

[Happyhippychick]

16. I think Santorum doesn't strap his dog to the roof on cartrips.

But I'm not sure.

[FSogol]

17. Their 15 minutes of fame is almost up?

That's all I got.

[sufrommich]

18. Mitt Romney would make a great leisure suit model

for the Sears catalog.

[struggle4progress]

19. None of the GOP POTUS candidates seem to live in my state

That's a big bonus for me

YMMV

[Lugnut]

20. I got nothing.

Comic relief is the only thing I can come up with. They're all a big joke.

[Ikonoklast]

26. I wish MIRT had let this one go on just a bit longer.

This one was so all over the place it was actually faintly amusing, but, alas! the MIRT has done their solemn duty and dispatched the recently departed, but not missed member back to the basement of Mom's house from whence it came, post-haste.

[joeybee12]

22. Easy...they're all doing their best to help Dems hold onto the Senate...

Any one of them would be death for those on the same ticket.

[Dokkie]

24. i HATE posts like this

Every human being had a redeeming quality even Hitler.This demonetization of the opposition is damaging this country and the rate it is going, we will soon hit a point of no return. Cant we just assume that some people have philosophical differences with our pov? wht do we have to paint that as evil people?

I wish I can give it 1000b unrecs

[Ikonoklast]

28. You make the assumption that they are NOT actually evil.

When you as politician espouse domestic policies that impoverish millions, keep them from health care, deny them the right to vote, deny them basic civil rights, enact policies that would let people starve in the streets with no home, no job, and no future and then just say that it is just a philosophical difference, start foreign wars in order to enrich your political benefactors, all the while letting the 1% loot the wealth of this nation, you would be wrong, and yes, evil.

I don't fucking care if you like puppies and babies, you are an evil slice of crap and should be described as such.

[SaintPete]

32. Hitler had a redeeming quality? Really? I mean...literally redeeming?

he could have shat gold bricks, or really, really, really loved puppies...would that have redeemed him?

[Dokkie]

51. Read the OP again

he asked if these candidates had ANY redeeming qualities? qualifying wordd being any Not if they were in totality good people. Yes Hitler loved fine art, he wrote poems himself and was anti smoking advocate. But you miss the point, post like these are made to dehumanize the opposition like they are so bad that one cant even find something good about them. With that kind of thought process, why would anyone on u=our side reach out to right wingers? after all, they support candidates with 0 redeeming qualities

[SaintPete]

54. I appreciate your reply, but ...

my comments weren't regarding the GOP candidates, they were in regards to Hitler's supposed "redeeming" qualities.

I don't card how many good personality traits Hitler had, whether he supported the arts, didn't smoke, walked Granny across the street, always left the seat down, and only bought union.

None of those, separately or in conjunction, redeemed him as a person. Nothing Hitler did could have redeemed him as a person. From where Hitler went, you just don't come back.

[libtodeath]

27. They are good for a laugh

once in a while.

[RC]

30. I can think of an excellent example.

The GOP are their own best examples of how not to do things. Fpr proof, look at the mess this country is in after getting their way for just 10 years.

[SaintPete]

31. Yes, not a damn one of them

is electable.

When those doofs decide to run idiots, bigots, and lunatics, they really go all out. Thank goodness for small favors.

[yellowcanine]

33. My Grandma would say that Mitt Romney looks nice in a suit.

If she couldn't think of anything nice to say about someone that was her fall back line.

[Incitatus]

35. I know one.

Of crap, I just forgot it.

[chrisa]

36. I'm sure there's some, but their other views offset this.

Ron Paul wants to end the wars and bring the troops home, for instance, but spews Libertarian nonsense (and is a world-class racist).

[jwirr]

37. They're alive?

[hifiguy]

39. They'd make a great feast for

hungry, flesh-eating ogres?

[surfdog]

40. Romney hasn't rejected Mormonism yet

And it seems to be a big problem for him I'll give him credit for that

[FBaggins]

41. Yes. Ron Paul...

... has a name that's much easier to pronounce/spell/remember than the current WH occupant.

Other than that?

[IDemo]

43. They're bringing us all together

Those who don't love the idea of a clown car driver running the country over a cliff side, that is.

[Warren DeMontague]

44. Most of them are reasonably fit.

You'll note I said "Most"

[Motown_Johnny]

45. Snappy dressers ?

[WhoIsNumberNone]

48. None of them are Daniel Carver

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Carver

[WhoIsNumberNone]

49. They are biodegradable

[WhoIsNumberNone]

50. They will do everything they can to make sure we get to be with Jesus

[DisgustipatedinCA]

52. I think Santorum probably loves his kids.

However, that most emphatically does not extend to other people's kids, as he demonstrates on a daily basis. I've got nothing.

[arthritisR_US]

53. Yes, I can...

they all eventually retire.

[snooper2]

55. Santorum makes things smoother?