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warrprayer

(4,734 posts)
Fri Jun 28, 2013, 03:37 PM Jun 2013

The Self Inflicted Snowden Wound

Saw this great op from NYT - being a spy novel buff myself, I was naturally curious to see what a spy novel author was making of the Snowden affair. IMO he nailed it with 100% accuracy.

"We have treated a whistle-blower like a traitor — and thus made him a traitor. Great job. Did anyone in the White House or the N.S.A or the C.I.A. consider flying to Hong Kong and treating Mr. Snowden like a human being, offering him a chance to testify before Congress and a fair trial? Maybe he would have gone with President Vladimir V. Putin anyway, but at least he would have had another option. The secret keepers would have won too: a Congressional hearing would have been a small price to bring Mr. Snowden and those precious hard drives back to American soil.

It’s hard not to see the last couple of weeks as a tragedy for Mr. Snowden — who seems to have started down this road with decent motives and is now looking at life as an exile or in prison — as well as a huge self-inflicted wound for the American intelligence community. If the masters of the apparatus were really ready to have an honest discussion about their powers, Mr. Snowden might have wound up not in Moscow, but back in Washington, his girl by his side on the Capitol steps, headed for a few years in prison and then a job with the Electronic Frontier Foundation. "

They cut off their nose to spite their face.


http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/25/opinion/snowden-through-the-eyes-of-a-spy-novelist.html?_r=0

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The Self Inflicted Snowden Wound (Original Post) warrprayer Jun 2013 OP
nonsense. He doesn't deserve such treatment. He is nothing but a thief. JackN415 Jun 2013 #1
Thief! warrprayer Jun 2013 #3
Let the scumbag stay where ever, save money wasted on chasing him down, right now he is Thinkingabout Jun 2013 #2
funny how the people warrprayer Jun 2013 #4
"...his girl by his side..." randome Jun 2013 #5
Hombre Secreto! warrprayer Jun 2013 #7
That stupid song (the original) was in my head for years when I was growing up! randome Jun 2013 #9
Valerie Plame says, "In a way, we as U.S. citizens owe Edward Snowden a thank you.... Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2013 #6
point made warrprayer Jun 2013 #8

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
2. Let the scumbag stay where ever, save money wasted on chasing him down, right now he is
Fri Jun 28, 2013, 04:09 PM
Jun 2013

charged so if he was to return to our wonderful nation he would be arrested. It will be Snowden who will not have the privilege of living here and enjoying the life we can live here. Let him live off of those who thinks he has performed a "service", no American funds should be spent on trying to rescue this scumbag from himself.

warrprayer

(4,734 posts)
4. funny how the people
Fri Jun 28, 2013, 04:13 PM
Jun 2013

I have talked to and authors such as this with knowledge of the playing field are not so quick to judge or fling jingoisms around.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
5. "...his girl by his side..."
Fri Jun 28, 2013, 04:17 PM
Jun 2013

He really wasn't thinking of anyone but himself. That's how it was for most of his life, I think. His resume is a lie and he imagined himself to be more important than he truly was.

He made his own choices. The results are on him.

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randome

(34,845 posts)
9. That stupid song (the original) was in my head for years when I was growing up!
Fri Jun 28, 2013, 04:33 PM
Jun 2013

Now it is again thanks to you!

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Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
6. Valerie Plame says, "In a way, we as U.S. citizens owe Edward Snowden a thank you....
Fri Jun 28, 2013, 04:19 PM
Jun 2013
"In a way, we as U.S. citizens owe Edward Snowden a thank you for having brought this issue to the forefront and so that we can begin to have a serious and genuine conversation about these issues."

Plame said she has "great respect" for journalist Glenn Greenwald, who broke the Snowden story, saying "he has written eloquently for years on these issues in a very serious, sustained manner."

She added that she believes the conversation should focus less on Snowden and more on the questions he raised, since "his fate is already foregone."

"He will be abused, he will be punished," Plame said of Snowden. "Perhaps he could have done it in a different way, but that's not the conversation we should be having."


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