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JI7

(89,252 posts)
Fri Jun 28, 2013, 02:34 AM Jun 2013

why was Trayvon Martin Screaming for Help ?

what do you think happened in those moments before the gun went off which suddenly shut off the cries for help ? did zimmerman have the gun pointed at him ?

does zimmerman want us to believe that Trayvon was beating him and smashing his dead on the ground while Trayvon was screaming for help ?

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Recursion

(56,582 posts)
1. Which one was screaming for help is one of the crucial questions here
Fri Jun 28, 2013, 02:35 AM
Jun 2013

And the anecdotal evidence I'm seeing is that most people have decided one way or the other, and have all sorts of questionable arguments about why they have decided that.

applegrove

(118,691 posts)
2. Yup. He saw the gun and it was then
Fri Jun 28, 2013, 03:02 AM
Jun 2013

not a fight. It was about the gun. Trayvon needed any kind of witness or intervention at that point. So he called out to a third party. Poor kid.

 

mr_liberal

(1,017 posts)
4. The sound of the voice makes it seem like it could be either one, but
Fri Jun 28, 2013, 03:06 AM
Jun 2013

since its Zimmerman that had grass on his back, a swollen nose, and cuts on the back of his head, it seems likely it was him. While all that was happening is probably when and why he was screaming.

Thats my impression for now, maybe that will change as the trial goes on.

 

quinnox

(20,600 posts)
6. that's odd. Why would he be calling for help when he has a gun handy to defend himself?
Fri Jun 28, 2013, 03:22 AM
Jun 2013

You would think instead of screaming for help if he felt that need, he would instead grab his gun and use that. Oh wait, he did use his gun, didn't he. So that seems very strange indeed, that he would cry for help in those circumstances. It is hard to buy that.

 

Pelican

(1,156 posts)
8. Why do you think they have to be mutually exclusive?
Fri Jun 28, 2013, 03:38 AM
Jun 2013

You can either yell or you can use a weapon?

 

mr_liberal

(1,017 posts)
9. Why would he have those injuries when he
Fri Jun 28, 2013, 03:41 AM
Jun 2013

had a gun? Because he didn't pull it until after he was attacked. It was during the attack that he screamed, then pulled his gun as a last resort.

 

quinnox

(20,600 posts)
10. so if it was Martin who was calling for help, would that radically change your
Fri Jun 28, 2013, 03:55 AM
Jun 2013

version of events? There was a lady who was in the neighborhood, who stated she thought it was Martin who screamed for help. Let's say she was correct, (she was there and heard the struggle) does that make a scenario of Zimmerman being guilty or what?

 

mr_liberal

(1,017 posts)
11. Yes, that would change it because that would likely mean
Fri Jun 28, 2013, 04:08 AM
Jun 2013

that Trayvon had stopped the attack and Zimmerman wouldnt have had reason to shoot.

It was just that womans opinion though, I think based on her knowing that TM was shot and killed.

Remember, this is just the prosecutions witnesses, there will be defense witnesses that say the screaming was from Zimmerman too. I dont think we will ever know for sure which one it was.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
13. Do you think Martin had a reason to punch the armed bigot stalking/chasing/confronting him?
Fri Jun 28, 2013, 05:46 AM
Jun 2013

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I sure do.

HipChick

(25,485 posts)
5. If I saw a michelin guy waving a gun...
Fri Jun 28, 2013, 03:15 AM
Jun 2013

and I was armed with skittles and an soda..yeah..I'd be screaming too..

arely staircase

(12,482 posts)
7. they fought
Fri Jun 28, 2013, 03:23 AM
Jun 2013

then weirdo/stalker pulled out his substitute dick

Martin screamed for help, just long enough for weirdo/stalker to form legal pre-meditation. then weirdo/stalker's substitute dick ejaculated, eventually sending him to prison for years.

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