kindly look at my response w/links

[pkz]

I made on another board to a Palin lover guy that constantly replies with "hit and run defense of Obama" and "it's gettin' old, why do Obama supporters always blame Bush?"

Talk about a hit and run!
That comment is nothing more that a RW excuse and I do mean excuse for not dealing with some facts. Did you really expect that President Obama could instantly fix eight years of problems? I didn't, I think it will take a generation.
You may not agree with the man's politics but please... did you think he was Superman? Can't cut him any slack at all?

Logic dictates that one would realize the damage Bush-Cheney caused all of us, all of America.

Started a War based on lies
http://www.commondreams.org/views03/0730-06.htm

They spent between $806 billion and 1 trillion chasing after the wrong guy and "weapons of mass destruction." in Iraq
http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2011/12/15/what-did-the-iraq-war-cost-more-than-you-think

6351 American lives lost in Iraq and Afghanistan
http://apps.washingtonpost.com/national/fallen/

They wasted away hundreds of millions of dollars to taxpayers in the form of tax credits which were actually checks, not payroll tax cuts.
http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/Columns/2010/09/17/Bush-Tax-Cuts-No-Economic-Help.aspx#page1

Billions of income tax dollars go uncollected from the wealthiest among us hoping that "trickle down" capital for new businesses and jobs. Where's the jobs?
http://www.faireconomy.org/research/TrickleDown.html

What about the housing bubble bursting?
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/07003/750746-28.stm

The financial meltdown of 2008 We were thisclose to another Great Depression.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/26/business/economy/26inquiry.html

President Obama has been busy. He has concentrated on ending the "wrong war in the wrong place at the wrong time" in Iraq. He also, tended to the war that should have been fought since 9/11 ~Afghanistan. Killed Osama bin Laden

He is working to stimulate an economy that was flat lining
http://www.gallup.com/poll/152624/Economic-Confidence-Best-Year.aspx

He's been trying to figure out a plan to get unemployed Americans working again
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/09/12/obama-jobs-plan-american-jobs-act_n_958958.html

He's working to fix our broken health care system
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patient_Protection_and_Affordable_Care_Act

No wonder that some (not Newt) cling to his birth "fake" certificate
http://www.politico.com/blogs/burns-haberman/2012/02/newt-goes-positive-encounters-orly-taitz-114382.html

or his ed creds,
http://www.biography.com/people/barack-obama-12782369

There is nothing else but personal attacks, he is not Superman.

Try to name one person that could have done a better job cleaning up this mess.

Don't forget McCain/Palin was the only other option
http://www.esquire.com/the-side/richardson-report/john-mccain-first-100-days-042809

and half of that team is a quitter.
http://crooksandliars.com/david-neiwert/sarah-palins-not-just-quitter-shes-p

[niyad]

1. the problem is, most of the people on the reichwing are not interested in facts

[southernyankeebelle]

2. Your right. Why bother letting facts get in the way. You can show them in black and white using

the stats from the same government offices that Bush/Cheney used and they will say Obama is lying. Obama can't win because he is the black man in the office. I'm telling you I live here in the south and I know at least a dozen democrats who refused to vote for Obama because he was black. The crazy train doesn't always have just republicans on it.

[niyad]

3. having lived in the south myself, I know exactly what you mean

[pkz]

5. I am a southerner too

took a clipboard to the face for Obama in '08, but delivered my county

[southernyankeebelle]

6. I had this girl who when she was single got welfare and got paid for her education to be a school

teacher. This GDamn government as she was say. She was a dieheart republican along with her husband who worked with me and had been a drug abuser. He became interolant of others. God don't like ugly. I hadn't seen them in awhile and found out from the cousin he went back on drugs. I felt really bad for him. They had 3 kids. They moved to a bigger city and she got a teaching job. I often wonder what she feels now with what is going on. She didn't like the unions. But mind you she was around 30 and I was in my late 50s early 60s and she asked me who I was voting for. Boy she got pissed. I told her why the heck would I vote for someone who doesn't support my financial interests. It's not all about abortions for me. She ranted on and finally I told her that she and her own parents have had no problems getting assistance from the government. She didn't like it. I told her well see you around. That was the very last time I ever saw her. I am sorry I didn't have a chance to rub it in.

[pkz]

4. oh this guy is always on my azz for links

so I supplied them, and have just added failed foreign policy and deficit.

Thanks for looking

[Jim Lane]

7. Congrats on doing all the work to pull together those links.

Of course, as others have said, it may not help. You can lead a right-wing horse to the water of truth, but you can't make him drink.

Still, you've at least given him the chance.