Would you vote for Alan Grayson, or a similar liberal, for President?

[kentuck]

I can't think of anyone similar to Alan off the top of my head. He is one of a kind.

But would this country accept such an honest, outspoken critic of our government as Alan Grayson?

In my opinion, we not only need someone like Alan Grayson in the White House, we need similar agents of change in the Cabinet and in the Congress, also. Our Party is the only hope we have for change. I could never see it coming from the other side.

I do not believe the Democratic Party will get out the votes in the next election unless there is someone different, with a different message and a different promise for America. I think it will be very difficult to get them to the polls with the same old song and dance. Just my opinion.

[valerief]

1. In a heartbeat. nt

[immoderate]

4. Yep. That's easy.

Grayson has a brain.

--imm

[LibDemAlways]

10. Ditto. Would vote for a Dem from the

Dem wing of the party happily.

[Jackpine Radical]

37. Absolutely. You stole my words.

Also Bernie Sanders (although not a Dem), Liz Warren, Al Franken (yeah, I know, I know) or maybe a few others.

I would really rather not have a Hillary run, even though I could well see her winning. She's just too Third Way/DLC/Corporate State for me, just as Bill was--and is. She was at the bottom of my list in the 2008 Primaries, and Obama was one notch above her.

[Zorra]

41. +1

[Chan790]

82. +1 nt

[tech3149]

75. Agree with you unfortunately, we don't get to decide who runs

or who is considered a "viable" candidate. I've watched this story too many times. In PA Chuck Pennachio was going to run for the Senate seat. Rendell and Schumer decided that the Democratic candidate should be Casey because of name recognition and fund raising capabilities. Pennachio was dead in the water and we had no choice. How about 2004 when Dean was the front runner? He's on some Sunday talkfest and asked If he would consider breaking up the media consolidation. His answer was affirmative with no question. Within a few days it was all about the Dean scream and he was toast within a week.
Fuck, let's go back to FDR's last term. The party "leadership decided that Wallace shouldn't be his running mate, so we ended up with Truman. No offense to Truman but Wallace could have made this a different world. No Hiroshima, no Nagasaki, no cold war, investment in global cooperation and national development. MIght even have restricted the CIA to only doing intelligence gathering. And then theirs Trumans capitulation to the British to allow them to try to recreate their empire. Now that really fucked us in the Middle East.
edit: spelling

[LiberalLovinLug]

162. +100

I think the vast majority of DUers would vote for Grayson. This OP question is kind of useless, I have to say. Because you are correct, he'd never get past the primary. Hell, he may never even be allowed to run in the primary by the DLC because he may just show up their "third way" pet candidates.

Maybe some day if the Republicans actually divide for good, and the crazy baggers start their own party. Because that would allow a chance to a new Progressive party to form in order for it to be a 4 way race. Grayson, Warren, Franken, and others could sign up to the new Progressive Democrat party. That way it would still give the main Democratic Party a chance to win because they'd have the same disadvantage that a new moderate Republican Party would, but it would give a scare to the DLC and they may just scramble to actually start listening to the "fucking liberal retards".

[pscot]

2. I'd prefer Dr.Dean

but yes.

[kentuck]

6. Dean and Grayson

That would be a strong ticket.

[valerief]

8. And Sanders in the mix, too! Whitehouse. Sherrod Brown. nt

[kentuck]

11. All good!

I think it might take all of them to get this country back on track?

[valerief]

17. It'll take millions of angry Americans to do that. nt

[Jackpine Radical]

39. Brown, maybe Whitehouse (infinite campaign slogan possibilities there).

Edited to add--

I just dug out my old Dean T shirt yesterday in honor of his not definitively turning down the suggestion…

[pscot]

15. Dean and Warren

Screw regional balance. Let's have a Sprit of '76 ticket. All New England. Kick the fucking reactionaries to the kerb! Power to the People!

[kentuck]

20. A Dream Ticket.

Neither is as liberal as some might think but they both are honest and have the interests of the people at heart. They are both fighters, also.

[Art_from_Ark]

24. Being a fighter is important

That is a ticket that I could easily support.

[AtomicKitten]

23. yes please

[muntrv]

3. Hell Yeah!

[quinnox]

5. of course eom.

[bigwillq]

7. He would get my vote (nt)

[think]

9. How long must I wait....

[kestrel91316]

12. Hell, yes!

[cali]

13. fantasy question.

Grayson has no chance of winning the nomination. and if by some miracle he got it, he'd have no chance of winning the election unless his opponent was someone like Louis Gohmert.

As for getting out the votes, that depends on many factors. In any case, the overturning of the VRA makes it harder for dems in the next presidential election.

[Recursion]

19. True, but if I woke up one day and Grayson were nominated...

... I'd definitely vote for him.

[limpyhobbler]

74. Why would he have no chance of winning the nomination?

He could run as an outsider, reform candidate, against the establishment. That usually a pretty good brand isn't it? Especially these days when people distrust the government so much.

[cali]

80. No, it's really not a brand good enough to get the nomination.

hell, look at Howard Dean. You have to have the backing of some of the dem establishment. He also doesn't have a lot of experience running for office or the innate political gifts of a Clinton or Obama. And his history of saying inflammatory things, many which I agree with, would be used by the MSM to crush him. Look what they did to Kucinich and Dean.

Which is not to say he shouldn't run and speak out.

[MrSlayer]

14. No! I want more Reganites!

Of course I'd vote the great Grayson.

[kentuck]

21. The Great Grayson!

I'm sure he will like that one.

[ananda]

16. Yes, absolutely.

..

[Recursion]

18. In the General election in which he was the Democratic nominee? Yes (nt)

[yurbud]

22. it's not a matter of whether we want him, but whether the party leadership and

the wealthy people they serve will allow it.

If they think a politician will truly govern based on his best judgment of what average Americans want and need, they will do anything to stop him or her.

[Jackpine Radical]

43. Sadly, I think you have it exactly right. I have often said

that Obama is the most liberal President………that we are allowed to have.

[kentuck]

48. And as we now know...

It does little good unless you bring a lot of help. You have to be ready to bring new people into the Cabinet, that are not afraid to change the system. You are known by the company you keep.

[yurbud]

99. Bill Hicks said when a new president is elected, a bunch of rich guys take him into a dark room and

show him film of the JFK assassination from an angle no one has seen before.

But I don't think that's necessary.

Every president knows that can happen if he steps out of the box the rich are comfortable with--especially since the Secret Service works for the Treasury Department, and the Treasury Secretary is picked by Wall Street.

[Egalitarian Thug]

120. "Any questions?" "Just, what's my agenda?" n/t

[MindPilot]

189. "Invade Baghdad? You got it!" n/t

[magellan]

25. Without a single reservation! n/t

[Cleita]

26. I'd vote for anyone to the left of Howard Dean including Howard. n/t

[madinmaryland]

27. If he was the nominee for the Democratic Party, then Yes. In the primaries, no.

[yurbud]

186. too left, too conservative, or why?

[MirrorAshes]

28. Love him, but...

He's too volatile. We need his voice in the discussion, but he'd be a very dangerous candidate to actually run.

I'll take Elizabeth Warren in a heartbeat, though.

[allinthegame]

171. Correct

On your evaluation of Alan
As to Warren she would arrive with less experience than Obama and that ha certainly had it's drawbacks...give her some time to mature and she will be terrific

[treestar]

29. The Presidency is not all of it

People need to quit thinking that it's all done and dusted when there is a D President. Obama is liberal enough to get something done with a D Congress in 2014. Skipping over that to some miracle President in 2016 is not going to do it, especially if Congress is still Republican. And they call us worshippers of rock star - those simply looking for a new rock star. Who would have the same WH, the same structure, the same NSA, the same foreign policy problems.

And who would in fact be administering Obamacare! Probably drawing from you and others calls of betrayal!

[xfundy]

38. The GOPigs had a "rock star" in W.

A Dumb as a Rock star.

[still_one]

30. Only in the primaries, and if he wins the mination, not as a 3rd party candidate

[DirkGently]

31. Elizabeth Warren. As smart; arguably more temperate. And I like this

"Wendy Davis" person too, although I don't know enough about her as yet.

Liberals exist. Liberals get people motivated to destroy bullshit.

Liberals can be President.

Edit: And of course I would enthusiastically support an Alan Grayson candidacy. As I did when we elected him our Congressman.

[truebluegreen]

32. Hell Yes!

Edited to add: Although my dream ticket would be Warren/Grayson...he'd be the perfect attack dog for the progressive side.

[geckosfeet]

33. Only person I would add to the list of Dean, Grayson and Warren is Bernie Sanders.

Wow - a triple NE ticket.

[bvar22]

34. That would be the proudest vote I've been able to cast in many years.

I would LOVE to actually be voting FOR someone
instead of voting against someone else.

[LuvNewcastle]

128. Same here.

[aquart]

35. Howard Dean, Sheldon Whitehouse, ELIZABETH WARREN....

Alan Grayson...I'm glad he's back in Congress but he has Chris Christie's temper and I wouldn't put him in the presidency. LIKE HIM, though.

[Bluenorthwest]

36. I'd vote for Grayson and or a 'similar liberal' for President, absoutely. Merkely, Sanders,

Warren, Wyden even. DeFazio, in perfect world, Dean in this one. You bet.
I do not care to and in Primaries I do not vote for Blue Dogs or Blue Baggers, Moderate Centrists and other Republican like creatures posing as Democrats.

[quakerboy]

103. Indeed

It would be nice to get a left coaster on the ticket at some point. Maybe a Non Californian West Coaster, seeing as we got burned pretty good on Reagan and Nixon.

[lordsummerisle]

40. Yes, but

I would rather have 30-40 more of his ilk in the House, where we really need the change right now...

[Apophis]

42. Absolutely.

[99Forever]

44. I won't vote for ...

... for anyone for any office that isn't "like Grayson" (or Elizabeth Warren), ever again.

No more Turd Wayers or Blue Dogfarts, ever again. Ever.

[Hell Hath No Fury]

45. I would vote for any real old-school Liberal.

I've been wanting to vote for one for most of my adult life.

[A Little Weird]

46. I hope to vote for Elizabeth Warren

but I would be proud to support Grayson too.

[The Wielding Truth]

53. Totally with you on this one.

[nadinbrzezinski]

47. And you think you have a say in this?

how cute...

I am trying not to laugh too much, but the party is way too much top down to allow that... both parties are in fact.

[Spirochete]

49. Of course

Would that someone like him could win the primaries...

[rhett o rick]

50. Dream on. The 1% control who the Democratic nominee will be and they favor Ms. Clinton.

There is no chance in hell that someone not conservative and approved by the 1% will be nominated.

[kentuck]

51. And we're supposed to be excited about getting to the polls?

Knowing we are voting for the same old crap. I can't wait...

[ancianita]

52. I most definitely would. With Sanders as his VP to run the Senate. It won't happen, but I dream...

[wilsonbooks]

54. Damn Straight

[rug]

55. I'd vote for him as many times as necessary.

[montanacowboy]

56. In a Heartbeat

I am tired of waiting in my lifetime for a REAL Liberal President

[AzDar]

57. Hell, yes!!

[House of Roberts]

58. Absolutely!

.

[mountain grammy]

59. Howard Dean always my first choice, but hell yes!

[leftstreet]

60. Would he be running as a Dem or an Independent?

At this point, the Democratic brand is as tarnished as Paula Deen's

[Warren Stupidity]

61. I voted for McGovern.

[Enthusiast]

110. I did too.

With the help of the media they successfully painted McGovern as some sort of wild eyed liberal.

McGovern was a moderate.

Hey, he was a fucking WWII hero.

IMO, if you weren't against the Vietnam War you were wrong, completely wrong. And history has reinforced the wrongness of Vietnam. McGovern was super correct.

The American people were mostly against the war. That makes McGovern's position centrist.

The microscopically controlled media message of today makes certain the TV consumer sees the candidates the way they want them to. This ain't no conspiracy theory this is a fact!

[MotherPetrie]

163. So did I. My first voting experience.

[MNBrewer]

62. Yes.

with no hesitation.

[sabrina 1]

63. Yes, absolutely! I'd settle for a cabinet made up of Democrats.

[Squinch]

64. Happily.

[ecstatic]

65. You really think a millionaire will be more liberal than Pres. Obama, Clinton, etc.?

Of course I'd vote for him. But not because he is the perfect candidate. He would govern as a liberal pragmatist just as Obama, Clinton, Dean, Kerry, and even Warren would.

It's frustrating to see people romanticizing certain politicians as being perfect liberal Gods, and then spew hatred towards the politician when they realize that their unrealistic view of that person was... unrealistic. It also creates so much division.

[Bluenorthwest]

184. Whilikers, ecstatic, Obama is also a millionaire, a few times over. Did you mean to type

'another millionaire will be more liberal than Obama'?
The need to polish the centrist incumbent is really sort of charming in the underling class, so good for you!

[fascisthunter]

66. the big moneyed interests are allowed to prevent such a person

from ever becoming a president, because we are not living in a country where one vote equals one vote, which means we really don't live in a democracy.

[rurallib]

67. in a new york second

[backscatter712]

68. Oh, fuck yeah, I'd vote for Grayson! n/t

[tritsofme]

69. I would have to think twice about voting Alan Grayson for Dog Catcher.

[Honeycombe8]

70. I'm afraid not. He's not mainstream enough to win the Presidency.

He's pretty far left. The Presidential candidate has to appeal to at least half the country.

[Enthusiast]

111. He's a moderate.

The media tells you he is a a leftist.

[NRaleighLiberal]

71. Yes...or Warren, Sanders, Feingold, Whitehouse, Dean, etc.

[airplaneman]

170. i'm with you. n/t.

[Gore1FL]

72. Similar in what way?

I like many of his positions, if that's what you are asking.

[Iliyah]

73. Sh*t, yes

but the world nor America is black and white. Its tech-na color. Its not one sided it is multi sided. Everyone, every group, every religious group, every country want to be heard and respected. Some are violent, most are not. Their are crazies on all side, but majority are not.

As many people on the right always proclaim about FREEDOM, patriotic, American, only when you believe the way they do, any deviation is a no no, anyone who side steps are un-American, un-patriotic, hate Christianity, hate GAWD, hate anything American. Either fall in line or you are evil. Seems likes many of these people own the corporate media. Propaganda, and we know where that ended in the 1940's.

[cantbeserious]

76. Yes - Next Question

eom

[diabeticman]

77. I would vote for him as President or even E. Warren or B. Sanders.

[proReality]

78. I'd love to vote for him. n/t

[Coccydynia]

79. Somehow I doubt most of those who say yes now

would say yes in actuality. Kucinich was Grayson before Grayson, and he never got past the first few primaries.

The same would happen with Grayson. He would first be wounded with the "unelectability" shot. The the "lesser of two evils" marauders would mount their horses of realpolitik and finish him off. Ultimately we wind up with a Blue Dog, and we march to the right slowly from fear of marching to the right rapidly.

[Enthusiast]

112. That is what happenes when we allow the CORPORATE media to define a candidate.

And that is why we end up with politicians that suck and lie and suck and lie and suck and lie.

[Sentath]

127. I still have my Kucinich t-shirt

Tho by the time the state I was living in had it's primary he had dropped.

[Coccydynia]

149. I remember when Ted Koppel tried to

Shame him into dropping out during one of te debates by basically stating he couldn't win the nomination. Kucinich said if people vote for me he would win and that the people would decide who should win, not the media.

It was awesome!

[Chan790]

81. Yes. Very much Yes.

Alan Grayson and I may not agree on some things but I'd gladly support him for President or Vice President or any other position he wanted in the Executive branch.

I'd rather though see him as head of the DCCC or Democratic Party Chair because I think he'd raise some hell, be a lot more aggressive and establish a real nationwide beachhead for liberal ideas that we seem to be missing.

I know Congressman Grayson sometimes reads DU...if you see this...please consider running for party leadership positions. We haven't had a good vocal partisan for liberalism in the Democratic party since Sen. Wellstone died. We desperately need one.

[MissDeeds]

83. I'd vote for any honest to god

TRUE liberal. By that I mean someone who has a record of standing for liberal values and who has consistently voted for liberal policies. I am so ready for someone who belongs to the Democratic wing of the Democratic Party.

[Politicub]

84. If he was our nominee

I don't believe Grayson would be my first pick in a presidential primary, though, but it depends on who is running.

He is a rockstar in the house, and I would like for him to stay there and gain seniority.

The great thing is there are all kinds of good dems out there to field as our nominee in 2016.

[abelenkpe]

85. sure

Prefer Elisabeth Warren though

[snot]

86. Yes.

[Godhumor]

87. I will support the Democratic nominee, so yes

If you are asking who I would vote for in the primary, my first choice would be Hillary and, if she didn't run, my second choice would be Cuomo.

[limpyhobbler]

88. I like the guy a lot. Would love to see him run. nt

[GoneFishin]

89. Hell yes. I won't vote for any more corporatists. If they put up Hillary I will vote for none of the

above.

[forestpath]

90. YES. Coincidentally, I just sent Grayson a donation.

[Generic Brad]

91. He would have my vote

I can't speak for the rest of the country, but I would personally love to see him be our leader.

[on point]

92. Over Hillary or similar DLC fake dem? Absolutely.

[blackspade]

93. Yes.

[freshwest]

94. I'd vote for Grayson in a heartbeat! Dem bashing doesn't help. He's a great Dem.

[dflprincess]

95. Yes - and it would be nice to vote FOR someone

[pnwmom]

96. I voted for George McGovern, who was every bit as liberal.

And who lost every state but the one I was living in, alas.

[Rain Mcloud]

97. Yes!

[onestepforward]

98. Yes!

I would be overjoyed!

[winter is coming]

100. Gladly. n/t

[BlueJazz]

101. Oh Yeah !

[bravenak]

102. Claro!

I like him.

[HooptieWagon]

104. Hell yes!

There's a few liberals like him. I'd gladly vote for any of them.

[bluedigger]

105. Nothing would make me happier.

I doubt I'll ever have the opportunity to vote for a progressive populist for President, unfortunately. It's not on the PTB's agenda.

[H2O Man]

106. Yes.

I definitely would. I won't vote for a republican lite, though.

[xiamiam]

107. In a heartbeat..nt

[Enthusiast]

108. Grayson isn't some wild eyed liberal.

He is middle of the road. The media pretends he is some sort of crazy liberal much as they did Kucinich. This is all part of the conspiracy to move the nation to the right. Not theory, conspiracy.

Preserving social security and medicare is centrist. Prosecuting Wall Street miscreants is centrist. Advocating single payer is CENTRIST.

Grayson for president! I will not vote for HRC.

[DLevine]

109. Yes, absolutely. nt

[Marrah_G]

113. Sadly the big money people will never let anyone left of center win

This is even more true after the Citizens United ruling. Unfortunately we have a populous that are easily led by propaganda

[TroubleMan]

114. Always do in the primaries and will do so in an any election.

The most progressive person gets my vote.

[Douglas Carpenter]

115. I would like to see a strong progressive raise the progressive flag during the 2016 primaries

at the very least they can perhaps mobilize a movement - with a real but difficult possibility of winning

[newfie11]

116. I have always liked Grayson

Yes I would vote for him.
As far as voting for someone similar, I would need to know more than that before voting.

[zeeland]

117. After today Tammy Duckworth is going on my watch list.

She is not messing around. My dream ticket would be Elizabeth Warren and Tammy Duckworth.

[Scuba]

118. Not only would I vote for him, but so would millions who don't typically vote ....

... because neither Party offers them squat.

... Living wage

... Medicare for All

... Strengthen Social Security

... Legalize weed

... Cut defense to pay for it all


If Alan, or another progressive were to run on such issues, many of those (nearly HALF of all potential voters!!) would show up at the polls and support him.

Sadly, the powers that control the Democratic Party will instead move further right, claiming they're trying to pick up "moderate voters". Bullshit.

[lunatica]

119. Yes

This country could use a Progressive President veering to the Left.

[stevenleser]

121. Sure, Grayson or Warren in 2024. nt

[LWolf]

122. Yes.

I agree. We need agents of authentic leftward, non-neoliberal change in the WH and Congress, and I don't think the Democratic Party will be able to GOTV without them.

I expect, though, that this thread will be inundated with pompous, patronizing pragmatics throwing the word "unelectable" around like salt.

[Rowdyboy]

123. If he or she wins the Democratic nomination? Of course. In a primary-it depends on the candidates.

[colsohlibgal]

124. Without A Doubt

We need a pure populist progressive democrat, not a part corporate shill like we've had lately. A president that would side with the Reich crowd rather than the Rubin in and out of Wall Street crowd.

The bad news is it's likely a pipe dream until we get public election funding, solid voting laws, and IRV.

[mike_c]

125. I have not voted for a democratic party presidential candidate since 2000...

...because I'm sick to death of the same old establishment politicians who serve monied interests and corporations without offering any real alternative vision for America's future. But I'd vote for Grayson in a heartbeat. Elizabeth Warren, too. I always vote for the most liberal candidate running, which has not been the dem in some time.

[Zorra]

132. I wonder how many votes from voters like you that Dems could pick up if a traditional Democrat

was nominated. I suspect that it would be a very significant number of votes

I've always been tempted to vote for the most liberal candidate in the past, but the literally nauseating idea of a republican president has always forced me to vote for the Dem.

[Recursion]

133. How courageous of you

[mike_c]

134. was that intended to advance the discussion or just gratuitous incivility?

[LondonReign2]

126. Where's the poll to go with this question?

Because I'll be looking for the "Fuck Yeah!" button

[loyalsister]

129. Yes- if by some bizarre twist he happened to be the nominee

But not in a primary.

[KamaAina]

130. Hell, I'd get a fake ID and vote for him twice!

edit: Hey, somebody has to commit some vote fraud! Otherwise all these repuke voter ID laws are just nakedly racist vote suppression.

[woofless]

131. Yes.

[Little Star]

135. In a New York minute! Alan Grayson is one of our best.

[gcomeau]

136. If the objective here is to determine viability....

...you're polling the wrong group of people.

Of *course* the denizens of this board would vote for him if he was the candidate. Getting the moderates and independents that swing the election to is the trick.

"I do not believe the Democratic Party will get out the votes in the next election unless there is someone different, with a different message and a different promise for America. "

Don't fall into the GOP trap of living in the bubble. Nominating the most liberal candidate possible is no more a recipe for winning over the majority of voters than nominating the most conservative candidate possible is, however much we might wish things would work that way. The Tea Party has been feeding themselves that dumbass delusion for years, that what they really need is a candidate who passes a sufficient level of an ideological purity test and then when they put him in front of the country the shining virtues of their beliefs will be put on display for the nation to see and it will awe and amaze them and everyone will line up to vote for their guy!


We laugh at them when they think things like that. It does in fact work both ways.


While it would be nice to believe that the clear superiority of our policy positions would cause that situation to turn out differently... don't kid yourself. FIRST you have to convince people to get on board with your positions, THEN you show them the guy who is going to do the things they now want to happen and they'll vote for him to make them happen.

[riqster]

137. In a heartbeat.

But I will never cast a vote, or fail to cast a vote, that in any way could possibly enable a republican to win an election.

Hell, if the Dems run a deep-fried pimento-flavored cheese log against a Reep, I'll be voting for the cheese log.

[sofa king]

138. One name: Ed Markey

I've been getting a lot of mileage out of Senator Markey this year, so I'll drop it again.

There is a reason why President Obama so carefully maneuvered the system to make Markey a Senator this year, right now. The House has been the safety mechanism which has held back Markey's career trajectory.

Now that the trigger has been pulled and Markey is released from the anonymity of the House, there is no telling how high and far his bolt will fly.

Both he and Elizabeth Warren will also be on any Democratic running-mate short list in 2016. I should add that a wet-behind-the-ears Senator Obama was still only on my VP short list around this time in 2007.

[Uncle Joe]

139. Yes, I would.

Thanks for the thread, kentuck.

[caledesi]

140. Absolutely yes! nt

[MynameisBlarney]

141. Does the pope shit in the woods?

Of course I'd vote for him, or another progressive.

[Xyzse]

142. Sure, if they win the Primary

Chances are, they won't, but sure, I will.

[lark]

143. I'd vote early

and dance out singing at the top of my voice, I'd be so happy. Just once I'd love to vote for an actual progressive, not a DLC'er or someone who thinks that compromising before negotiations and giving the other side everything they always said they wanted is a good way to accomplish things.

[JDPriestly]

144. Yes.

But I would vote for Elizabeth Warren even more.

[Hubert Flottz]

145. I'd like nothing better.

The corporate media would destroy him, so that a blue dog would end up on the ballot.

[2Design]

146. he is a good rogue activist but would have wings clipped in wh

but if he was running I would like to vote for him BUT I want the person who will beat any bs republican

[Peregrine]

147. General election, yes. Primary, no.

We'd be looking at a Republican president. I voted for him for the House. I'd vote for him for Senate or Governor.

[tarheelsunc]

148. Would I? Yes. Would America? Not a chance. eom

[MineralMan]

150. Sure. If he were the Democratic candidate, I'd not only vote for him,

but I'd work like crazy to help him win. If he were a third-party candidate, though, I'd still vote for a Democrat.

[PufPuf23]

151. Yes. I would vote for a true liberal Democratic candidate in the primaries and for the WH.

I know that I will start in the next POTUS election cycle as a lifetime registered Democrat that supports candidates as far from the Clintons or Obama until given no other choice.

[Scootaloo]

152. Yup; and you're right

We need people in the House and Senate too. I think liberal voters tend to forget this, to judge from our usually low midterm turnouts... but the president isn't a wizard, he doesn't make things happen. Congress is where the heay lifting is done, and to succeed, we need lefties in both, as well as hodling the executive.

[20score]

153. Of course. And Bernie Sanders.

Plus Elizabeth Warren and Russ Feingold.

Our country would be so much better than it is now.

[ReRe]

154. Yes, with pleasure...

Him or any popular strong non-DLCer Democrat, and not a DINO!

[SmittynMo]

155. My signature line says it all

It's been that way for months.

[Stardust]

156. With great pride and hope, but with the realization that her/his presidency could be a Pyhrric

victory.

[Fire Walk With Me]

157. I no longer believe that the corrupt structures of top-level government can be reformed.

I do not believe that even the most radical president could defeat the corporate ensconcement and influence over the offices of presidency, congress and other levels of government and government agencies. I believe the people of this country need to unite under the founding principles of this country (and New Deal values) and force the change we need to see.

What politician is =doing ANYTHING= about the following?

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I am becoming very, very impressed by representative Grayson (and the continuing efforts of Bernie and Elizabeth, and am missing Dennis) but they are not enough in and of themselves to force the change required. And I'm really, really sick of handing over personal power to corrupt or corruptable "leaders". Something needs to Change. Sorry; I've beaten my head against Reagan, too many Bushes, and now the corporate democrats. We deserve better than the current system appears able to provide.

[dusty trails]

158. Yes

I listen to him on the Stephanie Miller Show and agree with him about 110% of the time.

[OKNancy]

159. no because that will never happen

Someone like Grayson would never win the primary. Now if by some miracle it happened, I would vote for him ( or her).
I'm a partisan, yellow-dog Democrat.

Wishing won't make it so either. And btw, if you don't think the opportunity to elect the first female president will NOT get out the votes, then you are mistaken. DU is not America.

[tclambert]

160. I want to vote for Elizabeth Warren. Alan for VP.

If the primary pits Warren vs. Grayson, I won't know what to do.

[krawhitham]

161. I would vote for Alan Grayson in a general but never in a primary

He is loud but gets nothing done, sorta like Dennis Kucinich

Grayson has sponsored only 18 bills and NONE became law

Grayson has Co-Sponsored 78 Bills and only ONE became law

The one that did become law was co-sponsored by Alan and 300 others

H.R.360 - To award posthumously a Congressional Gold Medal to Addie Mae Collins, Denise McNair, Carole Robertson, and Cynthia Wesley to commemorate the lives they lost 50 years ago in the bombing of the Sixteenth Street Baptist Church, where these 4 little Black girls' ultimate sacrifice served as a catalyst for the Civil Rights Movement.

[MotherPetrie]

164. If only I could. But I don't expect to live long enough.

[DainBramaged]

165. If they were the Democratic candidate, yes, if they were running independently, no

not if they gave a Republican a shot at a divided Democratic party.

[closeupready]

166. Absolutely.

[alarimer]

167. Yes, but the spineless weasels in charge of the Democratic Party will never allow it.

The same way they primary any progressive Democrat with some milquetoast do-nothing corporatist in the name of "electability."

[Fuddnik]

168. Fuck NO! Give me Rand Paul or give me death!

Just in case some don't get it.

[ctsnowman]

169. Yes

[napoleon_in_rags]

172. +1. We need someone to push.

Some one to frankly put forth what we believe in, without all the compromise and BS. Even if you lose with such a person, its good for the long term health of the party. What's bad for it is a Machiavellian "win" where we are forced to sully our brand with the opposition's dysfunctional policies we agreed to enact in order to "win".

[frylock]

173. i'd be thrilled just to be able to vote for him in a primary..

by the time it comes around to my state, the list has typically been whittled down to 2 or 3 establishment-approved corporatists.

[bhikkhu]

174. I'd vote for him, but...

I would expect that once he was in office, the responsibilities of the job would temper his politics. In other words, I expect that his presidency would be pretty close to Obama's, and pragmatism and necessity would often be deciding factors as he represented the whole of the country.

[blkmusclmachine]

175. "the same old song and dance"

Changing labels .. "triangulation," "bipartisanship," etc.

[awoke_in_2003]

176. Yes...

Too bad we are probably going to have another DLCer like Hillary shoved down our throats.

[demosincebirth]

177. I would vote for any democrat before I would vote for a republican. Call me a

Yellow Dog Dem.

[BlueCaliDem]

178. No. Not with a Congress like the one we have now.

It wouldn't do the Progressives any good to have a lame-duck president at the helm. In fact, they'd be made a laughing stock by this centrist country in a heartbeat.

Change the Congress, then get the Liberal in the White House.

[NorthCarolina]

179. In a heartbeat. nt

[daleanime]

180. If you want anything more then my vote.....

it will have to be a fairly liberal candidate.

[Chisox08]

181. Hell yes I will vote for Alan Grayson

Bernie Sanders or Elizabeth Warren. We need a strong liberal in charge in order to bring us out of the 30 year plus Reagan era.

[RVN VET]

182. I'd vote with a huge grin on my face

More to the point, I think if Grayson were able to get into the race, he'd pick up millions of votes, maybe tens of millions, possibly even more.

Grayson is a Democrat, with a big D. So is Elizabeth Warren. God, what a team they'd make!

[b.durruti]

183. Yes! ~nt~

[toby jo]

185. oh hell yes

[byeya]

187. I already donate to him so I'd surely vote for him

[Autumn]

188. Grayson, Sanders, or Warren in a heartbeat.

[mick063]

190. Let me rephrase your question.

I will not vote for.anyone unlike Grayson.

If it is Hillary, as of now, I leave the top of the ballot blank. I will give her the opportunity to change my mind.

I refuse to vote Republican and that seems to include a good number of Democrats.