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erpowers

(9,350 posts)
Thu Jun 27, 2013, 04:13 PM Jun 2013

Suprised Paula Deen Has Been Dropped by So Many Sponsors

Although I thought much hinged on whether or not Food Network kept is deal with her; I really did not think so many sponsors would drop her. As most know Deen has been dropped by the Food Network and Smithfield Foods. However, she has also been dropped by Wal-Mart, Ceasar's Palace, Home Depot, Target, and Novo Nordisk.

http://www.cbsatlanta.com/story/22704487/target-home-depot-and-novo-nordisk-bail-on-paula-deen

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Suprised Paula Deen Has Been Dropped by So Many Sponsors (Original Post) erpowers Jun 2013 OP
The more she keeps talking the more companies want to distance themselves from her. PoliticAverse Jun 2013 #1
The best thing she could have done is keep her mouth shut Warpy Jun 2013 #4
yep. she got bad pr advice Liberal_in_LA Jun 2013 #7
Speaking of damage control: Rev. Jesse Jackson: Paula Deen Can Be 'Redeemed' PoliticAverse Jun 2013 #13
Jesse Jackson does not speak for or represent all black people.. HipChick Jun 2013 #52
"I is what I is". Is she Popeye? Gin Jun 2013 #2
Yes, how smart to use ebonics on national tv in your mea culpa. She has no clue what she did wrong. Pisces Jun 2013 #10
That isn't ebonics! WinkyDink Jun 2013 #61
She's a stupid old lady that got some godawful legal and PR advice tularetom Jun 2013 #3
Please do not refer to us female senior citizens over 65 as "old ladies" much less "stupid." n/t RebelOne Jun 2013 #14
I was born before WWII started, my wife calls herself an "old lady" tularetom Jun 2013 #15
Which word, in particular, are you objecting to? Thor_MN Jun 2013 #38
If she'd settled it'd have gone away durablend Jun 2013 #5
Good point BainsBane Jun 2013 #17
I'm puzzled by the reactions to her, both good and bad. Laurian Jun 2013 #6
Gotta agree there. Le Taz Hot Jun 2013 #9
massive immigration bill just quietly passed the Senate markiv Jun 2013 #11
It's easy to understand nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #22
She is not important 840high Jun 2013 #60
The products that have dropped her have a huge African American clientele. She is toxic because she Pisces Jun 2013 #8
Ultimate Irony - she is now a "tar baby" and her statements stick to her businesses elfin Jun 2013 #12
Did you see her interview on GMA yesterday? BainsBane Jun 2013 #16
ugh. It was awful. Probably the worst performance Ive ever seen. bunnies Jun 2013 #18
Yes erpowers Jun 2013 #21
overtly racist crap has become, thankfully, a real social (business) no-no in America arely staircase Jun 2013 #19
Speaking of death loyalsister Jun 2013 #30
Not exactly KentuckyWoman Jun 2013 #31
yeah, kiss of death maybe too strong. it can be and is a body blow. arely staircase Jun 2013 #35
I just love seeing someone who has accomplished a lot RILib Jun 2013 #20
Been on this earth 66 years and "never learned any better" REP Jun 2013 #24
Yeah -- and she routinely discriminated against dark-skinned employees. Gee, what a heroine! Arugula Latte Jun 2013 #26
+1 uponit7771 Jun 2013 #27
Welcome to our hypocritical society. Beacool Jun 2013 #39
Paula Deen Was Convicted And Executed? HangOnKids Jun 2013 #45
Yes, in the court of public opinion she was. Beacool Jun 2013 #56
I think she's getting a lousy deal. When I lived in California, I worked on some shows (doing sound) BlueJazz Jun 2013 #58
I used to act, so I'm used to hearing similar remarks and worse. Beacool Jun 2013 #59
If she'd never left the South, I might OldHippieChick Jun 2013 #40
Change is a fact of life, you either adapt or you become extinct. nt Raine Jun 2013 #46
When even animal abusers don't want to be associated with you ... REP Jun 2013 #23
Apparently, words can be VERY offensive to some people Lugal Zaggesi Jun 2013 #25
That's not what it's about. Ian David Jun 2013 #29
True Lugal Zaggesi Jun 2013 #33
Maybe you were being a douchenozzle. Ian David Jun 2013 #34
Well, it was my first one. Ironic Lugal Zaggesi Jun 2013 #42
It was a 6-0 jury decision. That rarely happens. Ian David Jun 2013 #47
Hmmm Lugal Zaggesi Jun 2013 #48
I bet Cracker Barrel needs a spokesperson. n/t Ian David Jun 2013 #28
But Limbaugh and Sean Hannity still have sponsors adigal Jun 2013 #32
The Food Network is supposed to appeal to a diverse audience. Ian David Jun 2013 #36
They're just covering their asses until it's safe to sponsor her again. alarimer Jun 2013 #37
Yup, that's what I think will happen. Ligyron Jun 2013 #50
QVC hasn't dropped her yet? Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2013 #41
Yes they have, so has Sears. nt Raine Jun 2013 #44
Good. Now I'm satisfied. She can't go around bragging that QVC still supports her AND... Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2013 #49
She was a sinking ship even before this happened. nyquil_man Jun 2013 #43
She is toxic..she needs to take a seat and go retire herself HipChick Jun 2013 #51
I see it as culture finally rejecting the tolerance of racism. That is a very good thing. tridim Jun 2013 #53
Racism + actively promoting lethal nutritional habits = simply TOO MUCH. kestrel91316 Jun 2013 #54
I'm not surprised at all. HiddenAgenda63 Jun 2013 #55
I'm glad she's had to suffer the consequences (especially of her employment discrimination) Arugula Latte Jun 2013 #57
I'm not surprised companies wouldn't want to be associated with a high profile racist. Apophis Jun 2013 #62
I'm not surprised. Think of the two (white) comedians in recent years justiceischeap Jun 2013 #63

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
1. The more she keeps talking the more companies want to distance themselves from her.
Thu Jun 27, 2013, 04:15 PM
Jun 2013

She's done really poor damage control.

Warpy

(111,312 posts)
4. The best thing she could have done is keep her mouth shut
Thu Jun 27, 2013, 04:26 PM
Jun 2013

after her apology. Appearing on chat shows was a big mistake.

I'm afraid there's nothing for her to do now but retire and spoil her grandchildren and struggle not to teach them the bigotry she was taught as a child.

Right now, she's radioactive and I think the company that makes "her" cookware is looking into ways to polish her name completely off the pots and pans.

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
13. Speaking of damage control: Rev. Jesse Jackson: Paula Deen Can Be 'Redeemed'
Thu Jun 27, 2013, 04:55 PM
Jun 2013

CHICAGO -- Civil rights leader Rev. Jesse Jackson says he's agreed to help celebrity chef Paula Deen try
to make amends for her past use of a racial slur, saying she shouldn't become a "sacrificial lamb"
over the issue of racial intolerance.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/26/jesse-jackson-paula-deen_n_3506218.html

HipChick

(25,485 posts)
52. Jesse Jackson does not speak for or represent all black people..
Sat Jun 29, 2013, 11:34 AM
Jun 2013

Many black people are offended by this

Pisces

(5,601 posts)
10. Yes, how smart to use ebonics on national tv in your mea culpa. She has no clue what she did wrong.
Thu Jun 27, 2013, 04:40 PM
Jun 2013

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
3. She's a stupid old lady that got some godawful legal and PR advice
Thu Jun 27, 2013, 04:20 PM
Jun 2013

I'd almost feel sorry for her if she wasn't personally such a repulsive character.

SO, fuck her. I hope she just goes away but I don't think that's gonna happen.

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
15. I was born before WWII started, my wife calls herself an "old lady"
Thu Jun 27, 2013, 05:29 PM
Jun 2013

Hell, my daughter will be 50 years old this November and she occasionally describes herself the same way.

I would not be unhappy if you called me an "old fart", that's what my kids call me.

But it isn't my intention to offend any ladies, old, young or indifferent so I apologize for my use of the term.

I do however reserve the right to call Paula Deen "stupid".

 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
38. Which word, in particular, are you objecting to?
Fri Jun 28, 2013, 10:35 PM
Jun 2013

She most certainly is a lady.
She can not be described as young or middle aged.
And there is no doubting that she is stupid.

She does not represent all "female senior citizens over 65", and the phrase "stupid old lady" was directed specifically at her.

You are requesting that no one "refer to us female senior citizens over 65 as 'old ladies' much less 'stupid.'"

No one did.

durablend

(7,463 posts)
5. If she'd settled it'd have gone away
Thu Jun 27, 2013, 04:28 PM
Jun 2013

But noooooooooooooooooo she wanted to take matter into their own hands.

Now the racist teabaggers are pissed at the companies that dropped her (that same "free market" that they extolled before)

Laurian

(2,593 posts)
6. I'm puzzled by the reactions to her, both good and bad.
Thu Jun 27, 2013, 04:33 PM
Jun 2013

With the range of hot button issues available to discuss and the repercussions of political actions regarding immigration, the economy (remember sequestration?), LGBT rights, voting rights, reproductive freedom, personal privacy concerns (NSA), etc., I frankly don't have the time or inclination to think much about Paula Deen.

 

markiv

(1,489 posts)
11. massive immigration bill just quietly passed the Senate
Thu Jun 27, 2013, 04:44 PM
Jun 2013

with almost no discussion on DU

huge increase in H-1b guest workers

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
22. It's easy to understand
Thu Jun 27, 2013, 05:54 PM
Jun 2013

Here you got a tv personality saying things on TV...that people understand.

Other issues are not that easy to get.

Pisces

(5,601 posts)
8. The products that have dropped her have a huge African American clientele. She is toxic because she
Thu Jun 27, 2013, 04:39 PM
Jun 2013

truly does not understand that she did anything wrong. This is just the way she lives her life.

elfin

(6,262 posts)
12. Ultimate Irony - she is now a "tar baby" and her statements stick to her businesses
Thu Jun 27, 2013, 04:45 PM
Jun 2013

And they are trying as fast as they can to unstick themselves.

I think they were comfortable with her "good ole girl" dog whistle racist persona UNTIL she got caught in the briar patch of reality, causing them to run away, run away.

 

bunnies

(15,859 posts)
18. ugh. It was awful. Probably the worst performance Ive ever seen.
Thu Jun 27, 2013, 05:34 PM
Jun 2013

And I think most of these drops have come since then. She didnt really give them a choice. "Somebody wants what I have"... blah blah blah. Talk about NOT getting it.

erpowers

(9,350 posts)
21. Yes
Thu Jun 27, 2013, 05:52 PM
Jun 2013

I really do think that made things worse. However, I still did not think so many sponsors would drop her.

arely staircase

(12,482 posts)
19. overtly racist crap has become, thankfully, a real social (business) no-no in America
Thu Jun 27, 2013, 05:35 PM
Jun 2013

We still have racism, even institutional racism (voter ID laws, etc.) But making racist jokes or saying n***** will pretty much get you deep shit. Even if it isn't for pure motives (just don't want to lose money or answer to stockholders) it is still the kiss of death.

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
30. Speaking of death
Fri Jun 28, 2013, 09:24 PM
Jun 2013

What kind of fool would insult someone who has a gun to their head? Between her self serving non-apology apology and that foolish "gun to my head" defense, she really has proven herself to be incompetent as the celebrity rep for her own brand.

arely staircase

(12,482 posts)
35. yeah, kiss of death maybe too strong. it can be and is a body blow.
Fri Jun 28, 2013, 09:49 PM
Jun 2013

yeah I forgot Dog the Idiot Bounty Hunter. Actually I didn't know he was still on. I am glad Deen is taking the hits and losing the sponsors and contracts she is. I have no sympathy for her. I even agree she can be redeemed (like Jesse Jackson said.) But she isn't even being genuine in her contrition. It is more like a pity party for herself. She hasn't learned a thing. And for someone to redeem themselves, actually learning what it was they did wrong, genuinely regretting it and then changing your ways are essential.

 

RILib

(862 posts)
20. I just love seeing someone who has accomplished a lot
Thu Jun 27, 2013, 05:51 PM
Jun 2013

built her own business, raised kids, paid her employees more than competitors do, turned into a non-person and ripped into shreds by a mob because she was brought up non-pc and never learned any better.

I guess everyone posting on this thread is perfect.

REP

(21,691 posts)
24. Been on this earth 66 years and "never learned any better"
Thu Jun 27, 2013, 05:59 PM
Jun 2013

At what point do stupidity and bigotry become a disability rather than character flaws?

Beacool

(30,250 posts)
39. Welcome to our hypocritical society.
Fri Jun 28, 2013, 10:43 PM
Jun 2013

The trial hasn't even begun and she's already convicted and executed. The sponsors that dropped her did so because they worried about their bottom line, not because they cared about their employees. Since when do Wal-Mart and Smithfield care about the well being of the people who work for them?

A guy who frequented prostitutes and wore diapers is still a US Senator. Another guy who tweeted pics of his dick to many women is running for mayor and doing quite well in the polls. A woman under oath admits to having used the "N" word sometime in her past and she's treated as if she were a mass killer. Heck, OJ brutally killed two people and he was treated better (although his own greed and stupidity finally got him sent to jail).

 

HangOnKids

(4,291 posts)
45. Paula Deen Was Convicted And Executed?
Sat Jun 29, 2013, 03:31 AM
Jun 2013

What executed her? The "HAYEM" or the deep fried butter? So sorry, I missed the trial, conviction, and execution. I will have to make a Strange Fruit Salad and I Shall Over Crumb Cake in her honor this weekend.

 

BlueJazz

(25,348 posts)
58. I think she's getting a lousy deal. When I lived in California, I worked on some shows (doing sound)
Sat Jun 29, 2013, 12:21 PM
Jun 2013

...and anybody who thinks celebrities never make racist remarks must live in a shell.

I've heard EVERYTHING from N***** to "You dumb white M** F**** to whatever.


If everybody in the "Big Show" was treated like Paula, there wouldn't be anything to watch.

PS..for the record, I never paid any attention to her "Kill me quick Food"

Beacool

(30,250 posts)
59. I used to act, so I'm used to hearing similar remarks and worse.
Sat Jun 29, 2013, 12:48 PM
Jun 2013

That and the people who would disappear for half an hour or more to do drugs. I think that in Deen's case it was all P.C. B.S. because the word she admitted to using was said in her private life, not on TV or any of her appearances. I don't approve of having the P.C. police in people's private lives. I'm not a big fan of hers and her high caloric cooking, but I see a lot of hypocrisy in all the finger pointing. I wonder what is being said in some of these people's homes. They have never made a racist, sexist or ethnic comment or joke? Yeah, everybody is a saint now. Please..........

What concerns me more are the other allegations in the lawsuit, but how about having the trial and listening to all sides before making a final judgment?

OldHippieChick

(2,434 posts)
40. If she'd never left the South, I might
Fri Jun 28, 2013, 10:46 PM
Jun 2013

have a little more empathy. But this woman has made millions and has travelled all over the world. If she were paying attention, she would know better. She knows better. She just didn't care.

 

Lugal Zaggesi

(366 posts)
25. Apparently, words can be VERY offensive to some people
Fri Jun 28, 2013, 09:08 PM
Jun 2013

as I just proved right here on Democratic Underground (post #48):

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=521986

Americans really don't like those bad, bad words, and they won't overlook them.
Sorry, Paula - that's just how it is.

 

Lugal Zaggesi

(366 posts)
33. True
Fri Jun 28, 2013, 09:41 PM
Jun 2013

But to make a point,
I had used crude sexist language to argue that poor Paula couldn't really "offend" anyone with just her words.

Six DU jury members were awfully offended by my words,
and I received my first "One of your posts has been hidden by a DU Jury" automated messages.
Unanimous decision.

Irony must be an acquired taste.

Ian David

(69,059 posts)
34. Maybe you were being a douchenozzle.
Fri Jun 28, 2013, 09:48 PM
Jun 2013

Now, I'm not saying you *are* a douchenozzle.

Just suggesting that maybe, at the time, you were acting like one.

It seems to take a lot for DU juries to bring the hammer down on "offensive words."

 

Lugal Zaggesi

(366 posts)
42. Well, it was my first one. Ironic
Sat Jun 29, 2013, 01:54 AM
Jun 2013

that my attempt to show that people really are offended by words (a la Paula Deen)
gets censored for containing offensive words.

Speaking of humorous ironies:

Wouldn't it be ironic to die in the living room?

Spelling is my fortay.

I think it's wrong that only one company makes the game Monopoly.

FOX NEWS: A Missouri man reportedly shot himself in the head accidentally while teaching his girlfriend about gun safety...
Who said the Americans didn't do irony!?

Ian David

(69,059 posts)
47. It was a 6-0 jury decision. That rarely happens.
Sat Jun 29, 2013, 08:56 AM
Jun 2013

We get jurors who refuse to hide spam posts, because they say, "How can it be spam when this person only has one post?"

You had a previous post where the jury was 3-3, which is the usual way of things.

 

Lugal Zaggesi

(366 posts)
48. Hmmm
Sat Jun 29, 2013, 09:35 AM
Jun 2013

Second hide ? Not that I'm aware of - or that "My Inbox" or "My Posts" ever showed.
Of course, you seem much more familiar with DU than I, so I'll look into it.

I guess I should read "Terms of Service" closely.

I'll go annoy folks at The Washington Post for a few weeks...

Ian David

(69,059 posts)
36. The Food Network is supposed to appeal to a diverse audience.
Fri Jun 28, 2013, 09:49 PM
Jun 2013

Racist douchebags are Limbuagh and Hannity's key demographic.

alarimer

(16,245 posts)
37. They're just covering their asses until it's safe to sponsor her again.
Fri Jun 28, 2013, 09:56 PM
Jun 2013

When the image rehabilitation tour starts again. Americans have a short attention span and in a few months or years, you would think this never happened.

Ligyron

(7,639 posts)
50. Yup, that's what I think will happen.
Sat Jun 29, 2013, 11:33 AM
Jun 2013

Meanwhile, maybe Faux News will pick her up or she can go on The Blaze.

BTW, I wonder how many African Americans watched her show anyway?

 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
49. Good. Now I'm satisfied. She can't go around bragging that QVC still supports her AND...
Sat Jun 29, 2013, 11:22 AM
Jun 2013

...I can continue to shop with them.

nyquil_man

(1,443 posts)
43. She was a sinking ship even before this happened.
Sat Jun 29, 2013, 02:00 AM
Jun 2013

Those sponsors are just jumping off before she submerges.

tridim

(45,358 posts)
53. I see it as culture finally rejecting the tolerance of racism. That is a very good thing.
Sat Jun 29, 2013, 11:38 AM
Jun 2013

I hope more racists are exposed and shamed.

 

HiddenAgenda63

(36 posts)
55. I'm not surprised at all.
Sat Jun 29, 2013, 12:01 PM
Jun 2013

Racism, in this day and age, is a pretty despicable act.

Haven't heard much from Michael Richards or Mel Gibson lately, either...and I consider myself much better off for the lack.

 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
57. I'm glad she's had to suffer the consequences (especially of her employment discrimination)
Sat Jun 29, 2013, 12:05 PM
Jun 2013

but someone made a good point today. Why was the sponsor reaction to Paula Deen so swift, yet companies have stuck by Limbaugh for decades (until recently, and there are still some major holdouts)?

On edit, I guess this has been addressed upthread. Racist creeps have been Limbaugh's prime demo since the beginning. But, still, it's an interesting contrast.

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
63. I'm not surprised. Think of the two (white) comedians in recent years
Sat Jun 29, 2013, 01:41 PM
Jun 2013

who went on racist diatribes. And Mel Gibson, with his anti-Jew diatribe. Work certainly slowed up for all of them. They are persona non grata now. You can't be famous and say stuff like that anymore and hope to get away with it once it comes out.

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