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La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
Tue Jun 25, 2013, 01:32 PM Jun 2013

I am NOT trying to start a regional war on DU, but i do have a question to Souther Du'ers

For those of you who live in areas where VRA required more scrutiny, do you trust your politicians to making fair decisions about minority voters?

again, this poll is ONLY for people who live in areas that were previously covered by VRA and section 4 specifically


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Yes, our politicians are to be trusted with voting rights for minorities
2 (17%)
No, they are not to be trusted
10 (83%)
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I am NOT trying to start a regional war on DU, but i do have a question to Souther Du'ers (Original Post) La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2013 OP
Why do you address just the South? former9thward Jun 2013 #1
From deep in the heart of Mississippi I vote a RESOUNDING NO!!! Rowdyboy Jun 2013 #2
Not today. The wackos have seized our NC state government and plan to ruin us struggle4progress Jun 2013 #3
Aren't parts of New York part of that as well? The Link Jun 2013 #4
Do I trust the Koch-funded Tea Baggers who took over my state? yardwork Jun 2013 #5
You're right, it is all part of their plan. Major Hogwash Jun 2013 #9
I'm in North Carolina yardwork Jun 2013 #10
Well, I guarantee y'all one damned thing. Major Hogwash Jun 2013 #13
Smile. People are doing that in North Carolina yardwork Jun 2013 #14
Florida tried funny business this last election NightWatcher Jun 2013 #6
VRA has covered a lot of state actions... Whiskeytide Jun 2013 #7
No politician is to be trusted. True of the south and MT, Chicago, NJ, etc. aikoaiko Jun 2013 #8
THAT is the correct response. Dr. Strange Jun 2013 #17
TX Atty General Greg Abbott has already said the path is clear to implement Voter ID NoPasaran Jun 2013 #11
Jon Stewart last year lambasted an MS politician with a sterling civil rights record Recursion Jun 2013 #12
No way!!! LeftInTX Jun 2013 #15
I live in a deep red district. Last election I waited about four seconds. Okay, I didn't okaawhatever Jun 2013 #16
When you say "your politicians" dixiegrrrrl Jun 2013 #18
gov and legislature La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2013 #21
Alabama has been chortling the end of Dems. as a party in this state for some time now. dixiegrrrrl Jun 2013 #22
No Aerows Jun 2013 #19
I did not realize the Central Valley was in Alabama. nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #20

former9thward

(32,068 posts)
1. Why do you address just the South?
Tue Jun 25, 2013, 01:43 PM
Jun 2013

The Preclearance provisions of the VRA affected states outside the south. The following states have jurisdictions under DOJ control: Alaska, Arizona, California, New York, Michigan, Alabama, Georgia, Louisiana, Mississippi, South Carolina, Texas, Virginia, North Carolina and Florida.

yardwork

(61,700 posts)
5. Do I trust the Koch-funded Tea Baggers who took over my state?
Tue Jun 25, 2013, 02:00 PM
Jun 2013

I don't know whether to laugh or cry.

This is all part of the plan.

Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
9. You're right, it is all part of their plan.
Tue Jun 25, 2013, 02:15 PM
Jun 2013

I didn't know that you lived in the South.
The Rethuglicans were going to implement more voting laws affecting us here in Idaho this year when the state legislature was in session earlier this spring.

But, the slightly more moderate Rethuglicans, who have been in office much longer, stopped the newly elected whacko Tea Party fanatics, the ones that were just elected last year, from forcing those bills through the state legislature.
So, they backed off from putting them on the books this year.

But, they won't hesitate to pass those bills next year now that the Supreme Court has thrown out that specific part of the Voting Rights Act.

Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
13. Well, I guarantee y'all one damned thing.
Tue Jun 25, 2013, 02:30 PM
Jun 2013

If the Supreme Court muffs either one of those decisions about Prop 8 or DOMA tomorrow, we're going to march this here damned summer and raise so much hell, they will have to put it on tv!!!



NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
6. Florida tried funny business this last election
Tue Jun 25, 2013, 02:03 PM
Jun 2013

All the Hispanic or Black precincts in and around Dade (Miami) had long lines, few machines, and other problems. The state stepped in a few times to keep polls open and try to relocate working machines to the area. Now there will be no check or balance to make them comply.

Whiskeytide

(4,462 posts)
7. VRA has covered a lot of state actions...
Tue Jun 25, 2013, 02:06 PM
Jun 2013

... outside the South.

But you asked about the South. I'm in Alabama. I passed because it is not as simple as your poll might suggest. There are a lot of elected officials that I would not trust to be fair concerning minority voters, but some I would. Many local elected officials are good people trying to do the right thing. It is usually at the State level where big money gets involved, and that's when I quickly lose trust. But you just can't paint it with so broad a brush.


Recursion

(56,582 posts)
12. Jon Stewart last year lambasted an MS politician with a sterling civil rights record
Tue Jun 25, 2013, 02:27 PM
Jun 2013

And, full props to Jon, once he was aware of that he manned up and apologized.

The problem is that the legal apparatus (until today) still acts like the South is a unique problem, which it isn't. Are you more worried about Tennessee or Ohio?

LeftInTX

(25,526 posts)
15. No way!!!
Tue Jun 25, 2013, 03:16 PM
Jun 2013

Although they don't use the "N" anymore, instead they use code words like: Voter fraud, illegal aliens, and dead voters

okaawhatever

(9,462 posts)
16. I live in a deep red district. Last election I waited about four seconds. Okay, I didn't
Tue Jun 25, 2013, 04:07 PM
Jun 2013

wait that long. there was one sign outside the polling place. When I see or hear of people waiting for hours I want to scream. At the state of the union, when that 90 yr old woman was made to wait hours in the heat I cried. I was so pissed. I was beyond pissed. What in the f__k kind of world is this?
Up until a few years ago,
I didn't realize that the state would allocate greater money and resources to certain districts, favoring the majority party and then cut funding for the rest. I was gobsmacked at the inequality of it.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
18. When you say "your politicians"
Tue Jun 25, 2013, 06:38 PM
Jun 2013

are you referring to state politicians ( Gov and Legislature)
or to National politicians ( Congressional Sen. and House)
???????????????????????

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
22. Alabama has been chortling the end of Dems. as a party in this state for some time now.
Tue Jun 25, 2013, 11:52 PM
Jun 2013

We needed the Voting Rights Act to continue down here, for sure.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
19. No
Tue Jun 25, 2013, 06:40 PM
Jun 2013

And I'm a Southerner, but I'll be the first to say our politician's aren't to be trusted ... on a hell of a lot of things, not just VRA. Reining them in on abortion is practically a full-time job, too.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
20. I did not realize the Central Valley was in Alabama.
Tue Jun 25, 2013, 06:43 PM
Jun 2013

This is not that simple...as to region specific.

Having actually already read a large part of the decision....they have a couple valid points...they signaled a result like this in 2010 by the by, in a Texas case involving a utility district, and they gave a way out to Congress.

I know people are trying to make this black and white, but it is not black and white.

As to the out...with the present House...cue the laugh tract. That ain't happening.

By the by, the standards used to do the testing should have changed in 2006....one of their actually valid points.

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