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cali

(114,904 posts)
Tue Jun 25, 2013, 01:26 PM Jun 2013

Michael Hastings: FBI Records Lead to Positive ID

So if the FBI wasn't investigating Hastings, what were they doing with his fingerprints on file?

The L.A. County Department of Coroner today confirmed that the burned body found in the charred Mercedes that crashed in Hollywood early Tuesday was indeed that of noted journalist Michael Hastings.

The remains of 33-year-old Michael Mahon Hastings were identified through fingerprint records "obtained from the FBI," coroner's Lt. Fred Corral told us:

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http://blogs.laweekly.com/informer/2013/06/michael_hastings_identified_hollywood_crash.php

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Michael Hastings: FBI Records Lead to Positive ID (Original Post) cali Jun 2013 OP
Did Hastings have a record? previous arrest? morningfog Jun 2013 #1
Yes, a DUI. n/t pnwmom Jun 2013 #4
He was involved in a DUI when he was 19. Of course they have his fingerprints. pnwmom Jun 2013 #2
do you have a link for that? cali Jun 2013 #5
He wrote about it in a book. pnwmom Jun 2013 #13
They have a national database that most all LEA utilize snooper2 Jun 2013 #15
Sorry, cali Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 #3
I don't think you are in the minority. zappaman Jun 2013 #6
Nooo! His car was being remotely controlled by DARPA!... SidDithers Jun 2013 #8
you know what I find despicable? cali Jun 2013 #12
I wasn't fucking responding to you... SidDithers Jun 2013 #27
That thread was precious Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 #14
sorry, cd, I've never fucking suggested that it was anything but a tragic accident and cali Jun 2013 #9
Your OP was nothing more than an attempt to feed the conspiracy theorists and you know it. Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 #18
another conspiracy theory bites the dust, as all conspiracy theories do. Yup, it was him. graham4anything Jun 2013 #7
Post removed Post removed Jun 2013 #11
the conspiracy theory were those(now of course 100% disproven) that said he died other than he did. graham4anything Jun 2013 #17
OMG. premium Jun 2013 #23
When correspondents go overseas into active combat zones, premium Jun 2013 #10
+1 That's how the FBI has his fingerprints magellan Jun 2013 #16
States and localities have been sharing fingerprint data with the FBI database since 1999. pnwmom Jun 2013 #20
It's still more likely they have Hastings fingerprints magellan Jun 2013 #21
If they hadn't already gotten them, they would have gotten them then, yes. pnwmom Jun 2013 #25
This message was self-deleted by its author magellan Jun 2013 #21
They fingerprint you for a drivers license now nt flamingdem Jun 2013 #38
Also Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 #19
Spot on. premium Jun 2013 #24
In this case, assuming the accident was a result of reckless driving and/or hedgehog Jun 2013 #29
Could have even been a medical condition, premium Jun 2013 #33
Well, that isn't how they would do it. morningfog Jun 2013 #26
You're not allowed to ask questions about Hastings without being ridiculed. nt Democracyinkind Jun 2013 #28
Questions can be asked without ridicule... zappaman Jun 2013 #30
Is this thread, in your view, an example of a ridiculous question? Democracyinkind Jun 2013 #31
yes zappaman Jun 2013 #32
If you say so... Democracyinkind Jun 2013 #34
drivers license require fingerprinting now nt flamingdem Jun 2013 #36
I wouldn't know that Democracyinkind Jun 2013 #39
Everything is connected these days it seems flamingdem Jun 2013 #40
A reporter who was embedded in Iraq zappaman Jun 2013 #37
I didn't know that he was in Iraq. Democracyinkind Jun 2013 #41
I have to renew my drivers license and they want my fingerprints flamingdem Jun 2013 #35

pnwmom

(108,990 posts)
2. He was involved in a DUI when he was 19. Of course they have his fingerprints.
Tue Jun 25, 2013, 01:28 PM
Jun 2013

One of the key questions is what the toxicology reports will show.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
5. do you have a link for that?
Tue Jun 25, 2013, 01:31 PM
Jun 2013

and does the FBI have the fingerprints of everyone who has ever been convicted or charged with DUI?

pnwmom

(108,990 posts)
13. He wrote about it in a book.
Tue Jun 25, 2013, 01:42 PM
Jun 2013

“The writer does have a history with alcohol and drugs, however. In his first book, I Lost My Love in Baghdad: A Modern War Story, Hastings says that he crashed a car in a drunk-driving accident when he was 19.”

http://blogs.laweekly.com/informer/2013/06/michael_hastings_crash_engine_flew_speeding_recovery.php


The FBI has been collecting fingerprints from the states since 1999.

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/fingerprints_biometrics/iafis/iafis

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
15. They have a national database that most all LEA utilize
Tue Jun 25, 2013, 01:47 PM
Jun 2013

I'm sure a lot of local police departments aren't fully linked in, like say DeSoto MO

Sharing of information is a good thing!

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
3. Sorry, cali
Tue Jun 25, 2013, 01:29 PM
Jun 2013

This was nothing more than a tragic accident. The FBI was not investigating Hastings. The US government did not assassinate Hastings. The reason why he died is because he was driving like a bat out of hell and we have yet to see the toxicology reports.

Of course I'm in the minority and I'm sure a majority of DUers are thinking conspiracy.

That's only because the inmates are now running the asylum here.

SidDithers

(44,228 posts)
8. Nooo! His car was being remotely controlled by DARPA!...
Tue Jun 25, 2013, 01:33 PM
Jun 2013

It's true. I read it right here at the DU.

Sid

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
12. you know what I find despicable?
Tue Jun 25, 2013, 01:39 PM
Jun 2013

People who put words in others' mouths? I have made it crystal fucking clear in several threads that I think Hastings death was an accident and yet some little minds insist that I'm pushing some ct theory.

fuck that dishonest pile of stinking shit.

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
14. That thread was precious
Tue Jun 25, 2013, 01:44 PM
Jun 2013

Left me in stitches.

OH...BTW...it's now on the front page of DU.



Now the world can see how batshit crazy this place has become.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
9. sorry, cd, I've never fucking suggested that it was anything but a tragic accident and
Tue Jun 25, 2013, 01:34 PM
Jun 2013

YOU know that. You have an unpleasant little habit of putting words in other folks' mouths. stop it.

I posted this because the FBI denied investigating Hastings and I was curious as to why they had his fingerprints. and unlike some here, I'm not stupid enough to lap up every word out the authorities mouths as gospel truth.

At least the likes of YOU are in the minority here. that's a small blessing.

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
18. Your OP was nothing more than an attempt to feed the conspiracy theorists and you know it.
Tue Jun 25, 2013, 01:56 PM
Jun 2013

Feigning outrage at me while cursing and screaming will do nothing to change that fact.

If I'm in the minority when it comes to conspiracy theories which imply the US government assassinated Hastings by taking control of his car and deliberately crashing it, I consider it a badge of honor.

Yup.

 

graham4anything

(11,464 posts)
7. another conspiracy theory bites the dust, as all conspiracy theories do. Yup, it was him.
Tue Jun 25, 2013, 01:32 PM
Jun 2013

One would think any white house reporter is bonded and has been officially fingerprinted.

Though I am not sure if a blogger is considered a reporter, but some here have said he was a major reporter,
as such, I am sure every single one has been.

and it's like copyrighting a book in the library of congress.
One doesn't have to be a big time big paid writer.
Anyone can copyright their book and getting an official seal.

so another conspiracy theory that it wasn't him, does not pan out.

Conspiracy theories are not a good thing.

Anyone who is bonded in any profession has been fingerprinted and they are on file.
In fact, I don't personally know anyone who hasn't been.

Nothing sinister about it.

As Bill Shakespeare wrote "much ado about nothing".

Response to graham4anything (Reply #7)

 

premium

(3,731 posts)
10. When correspondents go overseas into active combat zones,
Tue Jun 25, 2013, 01:34 PM
Jun 2013

fingerprints and DNA samples are taken in case something bad happens and the body is so badly mangled that it's unrecognizable and those samples have to be used for identification purposes.

magellan

(13,257 posts)
16. +1 That's how the FBI has his fingerprints
Tue Jun 25, 2013, 01:47 PM
Jun 2013

They wouldn't for a simple DUI as some suggest. There has to have been a government connection at some point to wind up in the FBI's database.

pnwmom

(108,990 posts)
20. States and localities have been sharing fingerprint data with the FBI database since 1999.
Tue Jun 25, 2013, 02:00 PM
Jun 2013

There doesn't have to be a "government connection."

This law was passed in recognition of the fact that criminals -- including drunk drivers -- do cross state borders.

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/fingerprints_biometrics/iafis/iafis

magellan

(13,257 posts)
21. It's still more likely they have Hastings fingerprints
Tue Jun 25, 2013, 02:01 PM
Jun 2013

...because he was embedded with the military.

Response to pnwmom (Reply #20)

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
19. Also
Tue Jun 25, 2013, 02:00 PM
Jun 2013

Let's say they didn't have his fingerprints, the FBI isn't just going to go up to him and say: "Hey, we're investigating you. Give us some finger prints so we can identify your body after we've killed you."

This is madness.

 

premium

(3,731 posts)
24. Spot on.
Tue Jun 25, 2013, 02:04 PM
Jun 2013

There is no conspiracy here, he died in a tragic auto accident, nothing more, nothing less.

hedgehog

(36,286 posts)
29. In this case, assuming the accident was a result of reckless driving and/or
Tue Jun 25, 2013, 02:12 PM
Jun 2013

driving under the influence (my default position until proven otherwise), it truly was a tragic accident; the hero destroyed by his own fatal flaw!

 

premium

(3,731 posts)
33. Could have even been a medical condition,
Tue Jun 25, 2013, 02:16 PM
Jun 2013

was he diabetic? Did he suffer a stroke, heart attack? Did he maybe just fall asleep at the wheel?
The official autopsy should answer some of those questions.

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
26. Well, that isn't how they would do it.
Tue Jun 25, 2013, 02:07 PM
Jun 2013

If they were investigating him and wanted his prints, they would get them off of a discarded can in the recycling or some other unknown way.

I am just addressing your logic. It seems there are at least to valid reasons that they had his prints, the DUI and the foreign journo reasons. I don't think the FBI having his prints indicates a conspiracy.

Democracyinkind

(4,015 posts)
39. I wouldn't know that
Tue Jun 25, 2013, 02:18 PM
Jun 2013

also, I wouldn't have automatically assumed that the FBI has automatic access to that data.

flamingdem

(39,319 posts)
40. Everything is connected these days it seems
Tue Jun 25, 2013, 02:20 PM
Jun 2013

Vermont came after me for a hitchhiking ticket from decades ago! I couldn't renew my license until I paid them. grr

zappaman

(20,606 posts)
37. A reporter who was embedded in Iraq
Tue Jun 25, 2013, 02:18 PM
Jun 2013

and had security clearances to talk to the people he has talked to...and you wondered why the FBI would have his fingerprints?
Seriously?

Democracyinkind

(4,015 posts)
41. I didn't know that he was in Iraq.
Tue Jun 25, 2013, 02:20 PM
Jun 2013

And I didn't know that they automatically take all fingerprints of journalists going there.

Seriiously! I am that dense! Feel better now?

Can I just point out that you offered 1 of 3 differing speculative accounts on how they obtained them? So far, I haven't seen a link that tells me which of the 3 sources was used.

flamingdem

(39,319 posts)
35. I have to renew my drivers license and they want my fingerprints
Tue Jun 25, 2013, 02:16 PM
Jun 2013

I guess I can't really refuse but I don't like it much.

Watching foreign nationals enter the US and get fingerprinted had me thinking - ain't it grand to be an American
and not have to be finger printed.. oops

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