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damnedifIknow

(3,183 posts)
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 09:15 PM Jun 2013

Anti-War Activists Targeted as 'Domestic Terrorists'

"Anti-war activists who were infiltrated and spied on by the military for years have now been placed on the domestic terrorist list, they recently discovered. The shocking revelation comes as the activists prepare to sue the U.S. military for unlawful spying.

"The fact that a peaceful activist such as myself is on this domestic terrorist list should be cause for concern for other people in the US," declared Brendan Maslauskas Dunn, plaintiff in the lawsuit. "We've seen an increase in the buildup of a mass surveillance state under the Obama and Bush Administrations."

The discovery is the latest development in a stunning sauga that exposes vast post-9/11 spying networks in which military, police, and federal agencies act in cahoots."

https://www.commondreams.org/headline/2013/06/24-9

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Anti-War Activists Targeted as 'Domestic Terrorists' (Original Post) damnedifIknow Jun 2013 OP
When you are afraid to protest your own government something is very wrong. liberal_at_heart Jun 2013 #1
defused BehindTheCurtain76 Jun 2013 #22
The End State Of The Surveillance State Is Upon Us cantbeserious Jun 2013 #2
I wish I could be so optimistic n/t RainDog Jun 2013 #8
The End State In My Mind Is Quite Orwellian - Wish It would Become A Non-Existent State cantbeserious Jun 2013 #10
ack. I misread your post. RainDog Jun 2013 #13
Dangerous people those pacifists. Undermining the (economic..MIC) foundations of the country. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2013 #3
need to watch this lawsuit FirstLight Jun 2013 #4
It's OK, really. Government knows best. It's all for your own good. idwiyo Jun 2013 #5
The "terrorism" powers of the PATRIOT Act have mostly been used to go after drug users. Warren DeMontague Jun 2013 #6
Does Ru$h know? blkmusclmachine Jun 2013 #20
Rush loves the drug war. Warren DeMontague Jun 2013 #23
+1 HiPointDem Jun 2013 #24
Big brother must take a dim of anti-war activists, seeing them as domestic terrorists indepat Jun 2013 #7
this makes me sick xiamiam Jun 2013 #9
How is he filing a lawsuit from Gitmo? jberryhill Jun 2013 #11
K & R !!! WillyT Jun 2013 #12
We're just spying on scary, scary terrorists. We swear. n/t DirkGently Jun 2013 #14
K&R Zorra Jun 2013 #15
Fuck the NSA ...and fuck the police state ...up against the wall muthafuckas! L0oniX Jun 2013 #16
Empires become extremely paranoid in their end stages. marmar Jun 2013 #17
And then they fall. Wonder if I will live in The Great Lakes? Or will I be Heartlandia? nt silvershadow Jun 2013 #21
Peace=Terror. n/t yodermon Jun 2013 #18
I have seen the enemy. blkmusclmachine Jun 2013 #19
"Round up the usual suspects." I feel like I'm IN the 60s & not in my 60s. Eleanors38 Jun 2013 #25
Notice how the apologists always steer clear of these threads? Democracyinkind Jun 2013 #26
Chilling damnedifIknow Jun 2013 #27
 

BehindTheCurtain76

(112 posts)
22. defused
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 11:25 PM
Jun 2013

I believe this is our fault because we took the pressure off when Obama took the helm...dems have rolled over and I bet the military is much happier with Obama as president because the effectively have no opposition any longer (regardless of the McCrystal comments). Pretty smart move to let Obama win so we all assume things are fine.

RainDog

(28,784 posts)
13. ack. I misread your post.
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 10:49 PM
Jun 2013

as in "this is the end of this period of overreach."

Your version is more like "late-stage capitalism," with all the nastiness of empire-crumbling that implies.

I'm not too optimistic about our govt. at this point. This entire surveillance apparatus is out-of-control and, if allowed to stand, will lead to a horrid future.

idwiyo

(5,113 posts)
5. It's OK, really. Government knows best. It's all for your own good.
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 09:40 PM
Jun 2013

Also, if they had honour, they wouldn't be talking about this in public. Because I am sure its all highly classified and now everyone knows about it, including bad guys.


indepat

(20,899 posts)
7. Big brother must take a dim of anti-war activists, seeing them as domestic terrorists
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 09:43 PM
Jun 2013

rather than as lawful citizens who have exercised their 1st Amendment right to express their grievances to government. One wonders if the plethora of gun-toting domestic right-wing extremist/militia groups generally make the cut as domestic terrorists. Nah, probably not since big brother is not gonna hassle those who exercise their 2nd Amendment rights which are both sacrosanct and absolute and probably not worry about piffles such as sedition, anarchy, and the like.

xiamiam

(4,906 posts)
9. this makes me sick
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 09:55 PM
Jun 2013

I'm trying to not be any more disgusted than I already am but gheezh. I don't know, but I'm beginning to think I should have just left when I had the opportunity.

 

L0oniX

(31,493 posts)
16. Fuck the NSA ...and fuck the police state ...up against the wall muthafuckas!
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 10:59 PM
Jun 2013

Should I tell you how I really feel?

Democracyinkind

(4,015 posts)
26. Notice how the apologists always steer clear of these threads?
Tue Jun 25, 2013, 03:40 AM
Jun 2013

No, no, there isn't a problem with a national security state/industry gone wild.

No, no, the US isn't going the way of every empire before it...

This is all legal. Other countries do it too. Why are you so un-american to only post stories about infiltration of Americans? You damn well know that the Iranians and Chinese are doing it too!

Those protesters planned their protests. That is premedeated. There's no excuse for that. They're aiding our red /and brown) enemies.

Protestors have no honor. They had it coming. I mean, what do they expect.

And Duh. As long as we spy on protestors democracy is safe - you may have a point, but only after there aren't any protestors anymore. Until that date, stop BEING OUTRAGED!!!

"Apologist", dear apologists, is used here in its most descriptive sense, please don't read it as normative (i.e. a call out). It's just that I miss you folks in these threads.

damnedifIknow

(3,183 posts)
27. Chilling
Tue Jun 25, 2013, 11:17 AM
Jun 2013

"The breadth and intensity of the spying by U.S. Army officials and other law enforcement agents is staggering," said Larry Hildes, National Lawyers Guild attorney who filed the lawsuit in 2009. "If nonviolent protest is now labeled and treated as terrorism, then democracy and the First Amendment are in critical danger."

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