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hunter

(38,314 posts)
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 05:32 PM Jun 2013

If you wanted to buy a brand new car this weekend, could you?

Me, no.

I don't have the cash and a dealer who saw my credit report would probably send me to the used car place in a rough part of town; the one owned by his money-laundering loan-sharking brother-in-law.


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If you wanted to buy a brand new car this weekend, could you? (Original Post) hunter Jun 2013 OP
I got very, very lucky Warpy Jun 2013 #1
We sold my nine year old Corolla and replaced it with a 2013 Corolla malaise Jun 2013 #3
Third world cars were great when I was working Warpy Jun 2013 #37
LOL malaise Jun 2013 #39
luv my corolla. Liberal_in_LA Jun 2013 #50
In Texas, mine is approaching Ranch Rocket status. Eleanors38 Jun 2013 #21
My credit rating is excellent but I have been saving for a car ever since I paid off this one. Walk away Jun 2013 #2
1993 seems to have been a good year for Toyota dixiegrrrrl Jun 2013 #6
So was 1991 pscot Jun 2013 #41
Sounds like a great plan. dixiegrrrrl Jun 2013 #43
Our two family cars, bought used, each have mileage to the Moon... hunter Jun 2013 #10
Wow! My brother used to buy used Volvo station wagons with over 100,000 miles on them... Walk away Jun 2013 #45
Wife loves the RAV4 I got for her last year.... Pelican Jun 2013 #58
Yes, but I don't plan to any time soon. NaturalHigh Jun 2013 #4
I don't buy cars, I lease bigwillq Jun 2013 #5
Could, but for a variety of reasons, never would. Cars are strictly a liability, Egalitarian Thug Jun 2013 #7
Yes, I could, but I wouldn't..... Uben Jun 2013 #8
Wow, that is a really sad story buried within your post. I do hope you will be good to yourself HardTimes99 Jun 2013 #53
I could, but I love my current car an unreasonable amount REP Jun 2013 #9
No wonder economic issues don't resonate very much on DU Fumesucker Jun 2013 #11
Merely having enough cash to maybe buy a new car is not necessarily "comfortable" Art_from_Ark Jun 2013 #42
We have "Oh shit" in our checking account and we are waiting for people to pay us. hunter Jun 2013 #48
I've noticed this too Puzzledtraveller Jun 2013 #66
I could, but I don't want or need to. premium Jun 2013 #12
Nope. Not a chance in hell. nt bunnies Jun 2013 #13
Not with cash, no. Habibi Jun 2013 #14
Why would I want to do that? Sounds like a hell of a lousy weekend... Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #15
Nope. HappyMe Jun 2013 #16
No, I'd have to Spirochete Jun 2013 #17
I'm a big time saver ecstatic Jun 2013 #18
I used to care about my credit rating and I thought our health insurance was good too. hunter Jun 2013 #35
Bought a 2013 F-150 crew cab 3 months ago, paid cash (certified funds). oneshooter Jun 2013 #19
This message was self-deleted by its author savalez Jun 2013 #20
I might be able to buy a new car that's not officially a new car Art_from_Ark Jun 2013 #22
No? So why not make that an option? LWolf Jun 2013 #23
You don't have a dollar or two for a toy car??? hunter Jun 2013 #38
Sure. LWolf Jun 2013 #40
Nope. Not unless I sold a bunch of drugs, which I also don't have The Straight Story Jun 2013 #24
I'll actually be test driving a Jeep Wrangler Unlimited shortly after I type this. Rod Walker Jun 2013 #25
On Saturday, yes. Not on Sunday. MineralMan Jun 2013 #26
My newest vehicle is 24 years old Link Speed Jun 2013 #27
I could, but I won't. I will wait til my 1999 Altima gives out entirely... CTyankee Jun 2013 #28
Yes, as long as Hotwheels count. Otherwise I need a FUCK NAW option TheKentuckian Jun 2013 #29
damn no wonder most DUers aren't concerned with our country's economic policies. liberal_at_heart Jun 2013 #30
44 people is "most DUers"? bigwillq Jun 2013 #32
yes, probably, but hfojvt Jun 2013 #31
Oh hell no. Apophis Jun 2013 #33
I could, but have no plans to buy a new car any time soon tammywammy Jun 2013 #34
yes, but i wouldn't shanti Jun 2013 #36
Answered yes JustAnotherGen Jun 2013 #44
I sold my 2007 Altima for a 2013 model. Initech Jun 2013 #46
Two questions: H2O Man Jun 2013 #47
My credit score is over 800, so I suppose I could, but Zorra Jun 2013 #49
Used car dealers won't talk to me Kennah Jun 2013 #51
Ten Franklins usually work for me... hunter Jun 2013 #52
Yes, except that I'd define new car as a replacement to my current SheilaT Jun 2013 #54
No, but I'm about to buy a scooter. LuvNewcastle Jun 2013 #55
As a consumer? Yes. As an economist, No. flvegan Jun 2013 #56
actually buying a new toyota rav four this week so yes loli phabay Jun 2013 #57
Could but won't. politicat Jun 2013 #59
Where is the "if you are crazy enough to take on a car payment with a fixed income" option? n/t eridani Jun 2013 #60
Buy a 10+ year old Honda or Toyota with under 100,000 on it. mhatrw Jun 2013 #61
no problem, but I won't. quaker bill Jun 2013 #62
Today? Easily. FreeJoe Jun 2013 #63
At the moment, no... Earth_First Jun 2013 #64
Not at all for many reasons beyond price of buying and credit Arcanetrance Jun 2013 #65

Warpy

(111,267 posts)
1. I got very, very lucky
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 05:38 PM
Jun 2013

because my dad surprised me with enough money to live well on after his death.

My credit rating is in the toilet (something I cultivated to cut down on the junk mail) but I can afford to write a check if it's not too big. In other words, I drive a Kia instead of a Porsche.

Before my surprise, my transportation was mistaken for a rez vehicle more than once and was old enough to vote when I turned it in. I've always driven junkers and tuna wagons.

malaise

(269,022 posts)
3. We sold my nine year old Corolla and replaced it with a 2013 Corolla
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 05:51 PM
Jun 2013

last month.
We're not into high end cars.

Warpy

(111,267 posts)
37. Third world cars were great when I was working
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 08:44 PM
Jun 2013

and parking in hospital parking lots. Every couple of weeks I'd go out and find a new dent from some careless twit added to the collection. It was either that or park a mile or so away and hope nervous residents didn't get it towed just because.

My little Kia is zippy and fun to drive and gets me where I need to go. It was even comfortable the year I made it up to Taos for the Wool Fiesta. It also gets 40+ on the highway.

I can't imagine buying a tank, er, SUV. It's just so unnecessary.

malaise

(269,022 posts)
39. LOL
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 09:07 PM
Jun 2013

We've had the odd scratch over the years but never a dent. Still we can't afford to maintain high end cars and afford too many other things.
I love the new Corolla ad - when you drive a Corolla you can afford to do things you like. My good friend just bought a cute Kia.

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
2. My credit rating is excellent but I have been saving for a car ever since I paid off this one.
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 05:48 PM
Jun 2013

I have been driving my RAV4 for 8 years and I paid it off 4 years ago. I can almost buy a new one for cash now but this one runs great so I'll keep it on the road for another 100,000 miles if it's game to do so.
I always tell it that as long as it wants to go it can go with me.

Except for the usual tires, one brake replacement, a few belts, hoses and regular oil changes, my Toyota just hit 100,000. Best car I have ever had.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
6. 1993 seems to have been a good year for Toyota
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 06:02 PM
Jun 2013

Mine is still going strong.Knock wood.
Had to have a rebuilt A/C unit put in 8 years ago, plus usual maintanence.
Tis a blessing, since car prices have almost doubled since I bought it.




pscot

(21,024 posts)
41. So was 1991
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 09:34 PM
Jun 2013

We plan to drive ours for another 12 years, or until they ban the internal combustion engine because of global warming.

hunter

(38,314 posts)
10. Our two family cars, bought used, each have mileage to the Moon...
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 06:20 PM
Jun 2013

... and now we are coming back.

Distance to moon = 238,900 miles (384,400 km), more or less.

I hate cars and they hate me. Too stubborn to give it up.

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
45. Wow! My brother used to buy used Volvo station wagons with over 100,000 miles on them...
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 09:42 PM
Jun 2013

(cheap from the dealer) and drive them back and forth to Cornell every weekend. Not the moon but in a year or two it came pretty close.

 

Pelican

(1,156 posts)
58. Wife loves the RAV4 I got for her last year....
Tue Jun 25, 2013, 04:47 AM
Jun 2013

2012 and automatic with a nice warranty as I am often gone.

So far so good...

NaturalHigh

(12,778 posts)
4. Yes, but I don't plan to any time soon.
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 05:53 PM
Jun 2013

I like to drive my vehicles until the wheels are about to come off. Not much trade-in value left, but I get my moneys worth out of cars.

 

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
7. Could, but for a variety of reasons, never would. Cars are strictly a liability,
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 06:10 PM
Jun 2013

and the idea of making a liability a bigger liability by paying interest and fees is fucking crazy.

Uben

(7,719 posts)
8. Yes, I could, but I wouldn't.....
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 06:12 PM
Jun 2013

I have the money.......I lack the will. I'll admit, I have never owned a brand new vehicle in my life, and doubt I ever will. I could never justify spending the extra thousands just to say I had a new car for one year. Call me frugal...whatever, but that's probably the reason I have the money to buy one now. Saving money has been kinda like an obsession to me. I have always been afraid of geting old and being broke. So now, I'm gettin old, and I have money, but my car is 9 yrs old. My house is 41 yrs old. I don't mind, they work just fine and serve their purpose.....and I have security.
I've kinda been struggling with this. I could cut loose and spend some cash, but it's hard to change after so many years. My wife died last year and I feel kinda guilty. We were both frugal, saving for our old age, and had just began enjoying an empty nest. We had plans to travel abroad, but cancer changed that. Now, I have money to enjoy, but no one to enjoy it with. Kinda defeats the purpose.
But, you have to plan for the future, just in case you do live a long life.

 

HardTimes99

(2,049 posts)
53. Wow, that is a really sad story buried within your post. I do hope you will be good to yourself
Tue Jun 25, 2013, 12:29 AM
Jun 2013

now with the occasional luxury item, like a good bottle of wine for example or travel to new places.. Spoken by one who has lived as a Spartan in the Land 'o Plenty

REP

(21,691 posts)
9. I could, but I love my current car an unreasonable amount
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 06:13 PM
Jun 2013

I am, in fact, buying it new tires as I type this. Well, I guess the tires are a gift for both of us

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
11. No wonder economic issues don't resonate very much on DU
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 06:23 PM
Jun 2013

Overall most of us seem to be a fairly comfortable lot.

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
42. Merely having enough cash to maybe buy a new car is not necessarily "comfortable"
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 09:34 PM
Jun 2013

I could probably scrape together the cash to buy the kind of "new but used" car that I described downthread, but if I did do that, I would feel very uncomfortable. What meager savings I have is "rainy day money", and recently, the days have been quite "rainy" indeed. Spending it unnecessarily on a car would be pretty foolish.

hunter

(38,314 posts)
48. We have "Oh shit" in our checking account and we are waiting for people to pay us.
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 11:06 PM
Jun 2013

Those people have "Oh shit" in their checking accounts too...

It's "Oh Shit" turtles austerity all the way down.

Fortunately we have food in the pantry. We won't starve.

Meanwhile the uber-wealthy play silly pointless games among themselves with money that never "trickles down."


 

premium

(3,731 posts)
12. I could, but I don't want or need to.
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 06:24 PM
Jun 2013

Our 1999 Ford Explorer has only 80,000 miles on it, still runs perfect, body has a couple of small dings but no dents, paint and interior are still in excellent condition.

Habibi

(3,598 posts)
14. Not with cash, no.
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 06:33 PM
Jun 2013

But both of our aged cars died last year and it was luck, really, that got us a decent loan for one 2010 Corolla. We're grateful.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
15. Why would I want to do that? Sounds like a hell of a lousy weekend...
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 06:38 PM
Jun 2013

i could, but I don't buy new autos, ever, never, never.

ecstatic

(32,705 posts)
18. I'm a big time saver
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 06:48 PM
Jun 2013

and I take my credit report seriously (which kind of makes me a sucker since I'm staying in an underwater home and not walking away like so many others have). So technically, I could, but I wouldn't (at least not until my lease is up in a couple months), because, as I said before... I'm more of a saver than a spender. lol

hunter

(38,314 posts)
35. I used to care about my credit rating and I thought our health insurance was good too.
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 08:31 PM
Jun 2013

Serious medical problems of the entirely random sort ended those fantasies.

Note to the automobile companies, small businesses, etc... If the USA had a Single Payer Health Care system like Canada, or a National Health Service like the United Kingdom, my wife and I might still be buying stuff and paying our bills on time. Whatever our taxes were, heck even up to 40%, we'd still be living comfortably. And I wouldn't be on such friendly terms with the collection agencies, saying nope, I ain't got nothing this month and they know it's true. Sometimes they get tired of calling and settle for less than the amount due.

My brother, who was surprised by cancer as a young man with no insurance, used to say before he declared bankruptcy, "Yep, I'm on the easy payment plan for life." He's pretty lucky, the cancer didn't come back but the credit problems remain.

I have no idea why businesses of all sorts don't support (gasp!) socialized medicine.

Well, actually I do have some idea. Most big businesses see their workers as serfs. They are afraid key employees with health problems would leave and start their own competing businesses if they were not afraid of losing their health insurance. We all know why the health insurance industry, pharmaceutical companies, hospital corporations and so on don't want socialized medicine. Their CEO's wouldn't be getting those multi-million dollar bonuses.

There was a time when my wife and I were uninsurable. We ran out a COBRA. My wife, who had the more serious health problems, was eventually accepted to our state's high risk insurance pool. Our kid's insurance was cheap, they are healthy. But I ended up with crappy "catastrophic" insurance that was very expensive.

Since then our health insurance costs, which my wife now gets through her work, have high deductibles and exceed our mortgage payments.

There are too many people living in the fantasy USA, a fantasy pushed by the propaganda machines. They think their insurance is good. They think that funny lump will be benign, that the weird EKG will turn out to be nothing serious, that the drunk or distracted driver will not run a stop light and T-bone their car.

When bad things happen the fantasy evaporates.

oneshooter

(8,614 posts)
19. Bought a 2013 F-150 crew cab 3 months ago, paid cash (certified funds).
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 06:51 PM
Jun 2013

Could do the same today, but I would have to cash in some retirement coins.

Response to oneshooter (Reply #19)

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
22. I might be able to buy a new car that's not officially a new car
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 07:22 PM
Jun 2013

In Japan, new cars that have been sitting on the lot for a few months are often downgraded to "used car" status even if the odometer reading is essentially zero. The reason has to do with the inspection system. A new car is inspected when it leaves the factory, and its 3-year inspection is effective starting at that point. The 3-year effective inspection period is a selling point for new cars, because they have to be rigorously inspected every two years after the initial 3-year inspection expires. So dealers will often deeply discount cars that have been wasting their inspection period sitting on the lot. That means if I could scrape up the cash, I could probably get a "new but used" sub-subcompact with a 3-cylinder motorcycle engine and 2 to 2 1/2 years of inspection for around $9,000.

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
23. No? So why not make that an option?
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 07:25 PM
Jun 2013

Yes, if I were really stupid and didn't care about my financial health or longevity, I could probably swing a new car this weekend. At loan shark interest rates, by trading in my perfectly good 9 yo paid-for Tacoma.

hunter

(38,314 posts)
38. You don't have a dollar or two for a toy car???
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 09:03 PM
Jun 2013

Our youngest kid, still in college, drives our oldest car to a summer job. This car was built a few years before my wife and I first met.

I have a love-hate relationship with this car. It has a salvage title, a mismatched transmission, and a bad-neighborhood-Los-Angeles-random-bullet-hole in the rear fender.

It matches the random-bullet-hole house we lived in when our kids were young.

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
40. Sure.
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 09:25 PM
Jun 2013

I don't need a toy, though.

I had a love-love relationship with my former Toyota truck. I drove it for 10 years and 150k; turned it over to my son who drove it another 12 and about 325K. Reliable, easy maintenance, never broke down, until it finally did. Son sold it for $1500 a couple of weeks ago and got a newer used car. I miss seeing old faithful in his driveway.

My current truck? 9 years, about to hit 90K, runs great, and I've done the following in the way of maintenance/repair: oil changes, air filters, windshield wipers, tires, one headlight, one battery. That's my kind of vehicle.

The Straight Story

(48,121 posts)
24. Nope. Not unless I sold a bunch of drugs, which I also don't have
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 07:27 PM
Jun 2013

I keep trying to get by on my good looks and charming personality, but that has not been working....

 

Link Speed

(650 posts)
27. My newest vehicle is 24 years old
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 08:11 PM
Jun 2013

and there is no new car that I would rather have than that one.

That car, new, would cost $145,000 dollars in today's money. I definitely could not afford it, today.

The rest of my vehicles are 1966 and older.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
28. I could, but I won't. I will wait til my 1999 Altima gives out entirely...
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 08:19 PM
Jun 2013

I save my money to travel to Europe every year. I've got at least 3 good years ahead of me before I get too damn old, so I am fixing my damn car every time. It isn't bad, tho. The Altima is a great car. I've never had a better one! I'll get another one (used) when this one goes...

liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)
30. damn no wonder most DUers aren't concerned with our country's economic policies.
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 08:22 PM
Jun 2013

Apparently everyone on DU is wealthy enough to buy a new car.

hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
31. yes, probably, but
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 08:24 PM
Jun 2013

I hate my job too much to want to buy a new car.

I now own two used ones, which is far more than enough.

Before I spent $20,000 on a new car plus interest payments, plus much higher insurance rates, etc., I would rather put that money towards my early retirement.

tammywammy

(26,582 posts)
34. I could, but have no plans to buy a new car any time soon
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 08:29 PM
Jun 2013

I have excellent credit. I like my current vehicle plenty and it's almost paid off. It is worth more than I owe on it. I plan to keep it around for a while.

shanti

(21,675 posts)
36. yes, but i wouldn't
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 08:40 PM
Jun 2013

my van is 9 years old, with only 30,000 miles (in california too). it's great not having a car payment and higher insurance, especially being on a fixed income pension. there's nothing to prove to anybody, i've never been a 'keeping up with the jones's' kind of gal.

JustAnotherGen

(31,828 posts)
44. Answered yes
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 09:41 PM
Jun 2013

But I have a 2006 Nissan Altima that has just over 100K miles. I should be able to get another 100k out of it.

I have the cash for my next car. Maybe a Leaf - but I have to see the prices go down on the technology. I figure I'll have two mre cars in my life.

I take fastidious care of this car and the three others I've owned. And this one has sentimental attachment - my dad went with me for back up when I bought it.

H2O Man

(73,558 posts)
47. Two questions:
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 09:58 PM
Jun 2013

[1] Does stealing a car count?

[2] If "yes" to #1, does a few hours "joy ride" count?

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
49. My credit score is over 800, so I suppose I could, but
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 11:28 PM
Jun 2013

I never buy anything if I can't pay cash for it.

Debt is like a trap to me.

hunter

(38,314 posts)
52. Ten Franklins usually work for me...
Tue Jun 25, 2013, 12:22 AM
Jun 2013

... but I only show them four to start.

wikipedia

I like your bike icon. My dad bought me my bike more than forty years ago. I'm still riding it.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
54. Yes, except that I'd define new car as a replacement to my current
Tue Jun 25, 2013, 01:43 AM
Jun 2013

vehicle, a 2004 Honda Civic with about 83,000 miles on it that does not need replacing. IN any case, I'd be buying a used car, not a new from the factory one.

And also, I would NEVER be walking into a dealer expecting to walk out with a car. If my car were totalled so that I need to replace it, I'd make use of a rental while I was doing a car search. It's my experience that the less anxious I am to buy a car, the more anxious the dealer is to give me a good buy.

LuvNewcastle

(16,846 posts)
55. No, but I'm about to buy a scooter.
Tue Jun 25, 2013, 01:46 AM
Jun 2013

My old car quit a while back, and used cars have gotten so expensive that I've decided to buy a new scooter instead. I'll be spending a lot less on gas and insurance, and upkeep is much cheaper. They make plenty of scooters now that will do 50-60mph, and that's all the power I need for the local roads and smaller highways. Some of the bigger scooters can be ridden on the interstate. The only problem I foresee is riding in the rain, but I'll deal with it. Looking forward to the adventure.

politicat

(9,808 posts)
59. Could but won't.
Tue Jun 25, 2013, 05:22 AM
Jun 2013

We've got a Kia Soul, paid for, just over 3 years old, with 30k miles. Decent mileage, under warranty, suits our needs. Bought new, still looks very fine.

Our next car is 6-10 years out, based on past performance, so our next will be either fully electric or biofueled -- either compressed biogas or biodiesel. Or we will have given up on car ownership altogether. Not sure which yet.

We both drove massively unreliable beaters for 20 years. I'm glad I know how to replace engine mounts and universal joints, but I'm glad I don't have to anymore.

I find cars are an example of Vimes law -- poverty means one spends more on a lot of pairs of cheap boots than one would if one could afford to buy one decent pair.

mhatrw

(10,786 posts)
61. Buy a 10+ year old Honda or Toyota with under 100,000 on it.
Tue Jun 25, 2013, 05:38 AM
Jun 2013

Buy it from a person, not a dealer and buy it in cash.

Get a Carfax type report on it.

Negotiate a fair price before inspection, then have someone you trust inspect it.

Use the results of the inspection to reduce your offer by a certain percentage of the necessary or soon to be necessary repairs cited by the car inspector.

Don't be a fool and get a new car on credit.

quaker bill

(8,224 posts)
62. no problem, but I won't.
Tue Jun 25, 2013, 06:32 AM
Jun 2013

same could be said for every weekend over the last 10 years or so. Could have, but didn't.

FreeJoe

(1,039 posts)
63. Today? Easily.
Tue Jun 25, 2013, 07:05 AM
Jun 2013

I've had a car since I bought a used Honda Civic back when I was in college. It served me faithfully for years until the clutch went out. I was too broke to fix it, so I lived without a car for almost six months in a town very hostile to public transportation. Those weren't good times. Since then, I purchased a couple of other used cars and have driven them until they were about ready to collapse. Finally, in my mid-40s, I purchased my first "luxury" car. It was still a used car, but it was my first with an automatic transmission or power windows.

Today, our coffers are filled and we're ready to replace my wife's 12 year old, 200,000 mile mini-van with a brand new one. I'll pay cash and this time we won't get the cheapest, most stripped down model.

I'm not sure what the future holds, but I have to admit that having cash in the bank is much less stressful than being broke.

Earth_First

(14,910 posts)
64. At the moment, no...
Tue Jun 25, 2013, 07:15 AM
Jun 2013

My fiancee and I are self-paying for a wedding in August.

Generally, we could.

However I wouldn't. I would buy used first...

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